User talk:Minesweeper.007/Nov 2006

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Hi, you are the editor formerly known as Ælfwine correct? -- T H L CCD 07:59, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

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No ear boxing here!
There are lots of ways to get started at Wikipedia. One is to browse interesting articles, or articles in a subject area you have expertise in. Look for mistakes, typos, missing facts, or other ways to improve the article. Another way is to visit the stub sorting page and find an interesting topic. Then find articles in that topic and expand them. (A stub is a very short article that needs people to contribute to it.) This link has many more ideas. If you still need help, keep in touch! --Ginkgo100 talk · e@ 21:28, 13 November 2006 (UTC)


 * A question though: why do you wonder if you are "cut out for constructive editing"? That's a strange thing to ask. --Ginkgo100 talk · e@ 21:29, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Thank You!
Thank you so much for redirecting my old pages - that was awfully sweet. I couldn't for the life of me figure it out, but I also had a terrible headache last night.

Out of curiosity, I read the entire exchange between you and Ginkgo. I'm pretty new here myself but you can definitely make a positive difference at Wikipedia - there's so much to do!

Really, there isn't much you need beyond a reasonable bit of intelligence. Good things to also have are a willingness to read and learn (there is SO much to learn about Wikipedia!), and a fair command of the English language (but believe me, there are PLENTY of editors for whom English is not their first language, so even THAT isn't altogether important).

Probably the greatest asset to have in order to thrive and have fun on Wikipedia is an EXTREMELY EVEN TEMPER. Just let stuff roll off your back, ask for help whenever you need/want it (which you've already done!), and don't take ANYTHING personally (even if something is directed at you).

MOST people here are hard-working and exceedingly patient and friendly. Don't let the minority fool you! Besides, with the rare exception, the mean people leave/get booted in a hurry.

If you would like, we can work on something together. I've got my eye on a couple of articles that need clean-up. In any case, if you have any questions, would like support on ANYTHING, or if you would just like to say hi, leave a message on my user talk page ANYTIME.

Have fun and thanks again!NinaEliza 04:10, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Help Me Request(s)
My specialty is redirecting pages. I have done well, but I do not know what pages need redirecting. Could I have a wee bit of help?
 * I don't understand the question. Creating redirects is trivial, so their isn't a list of them to create as creating the list would take just as much time as just creating the redirects in the first place. --pgk 20:32, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Direct me to where I can help Please!!! There really is nothing I can do to help. I cannot find something to do and I do not want to go looking for typos all of my life.
 * You could take a look at WP:CLEANUP, there's always plenty of work to do there. --pgk 20:42, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

I do not know how to handle that type of "stuff"! ! ! Its way too advanced for me. Do you think I am cut out for editing here on Wikipedia? I get the feeling that If I do not do noticeable edits I will be pushed aside and forgotten about.
 * Everything on wikipedia contributes to itself, thats the beauty of it. Just browse around the articles, and if you see something that needs fixing, fix it! If you see something that needs adding, add it! Just do what you can, and although others may change it a bit later, anything good will stick. Thats the beauty of a wiki. Welcome!-Lanoitarus (talk) .:. 22:05, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

fun?
Hi, I noticed your question on the Help Desk. If you're bored or gloomy, checking out WP:BJAODN might help :) Nihiltres 18:47, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Howdy!
Sorry it's taken me so long to get back to you - I've been battling headaches and what-not...

I started out on Wikipedia by responding to RFCs (Request for comment). These are articles with long drawn-out content disputes. I am still involved with them, but I have no desire to bring you into THOSE messes!

I'm currently working on getting some direction myself. I have been adopted by another user (there is a program here on Wikipedia called "adopt a user" that I signed up for. You can too! I'll show you where it is if you like...), and I've pretty much begged him to help me find a cozy niche here. I posted last night, and I'm waiting for his response.

If you click on the community portal (located on the left-hand side of the page) and scroll down, you'll find several catergories of things to do in the mean-time. Each category has a HUGE list attached to them. If you like redirecting pages, you might find the disambiguation list fun and easy. I've never done it because I'm not very technically inclined, but it seems like it's a very similar task.

I know you currently feel unqualified for some tasks, but I assure you you're not. On of the big catchphrases here is BE BOLD! If someone doesn't like your edit, they will tell you so. However, nine times out of ten an edit done in good faith is much-valued and appreciated.

Pgk was unnecessarily brusque. Your question was a good one, and don't let his response stop you from asking questions.

I'll be on later tonight, so I'll let write to you again.

Cheers!NinaEliza 19:33, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Sears American Dream Campaign
You have recently re-created the article Sears American Dream Campaign, which was deleted in accordance with Wikipedia's deletion policies. Please do not re-create the article. If you disagree with the article's deletion, you may ask for a deletion review. --ZimZalaBim (talk) 20:13, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Please stop re-creating this page and inserting editorial messages. If you persist, you run the risk of being blocked from editing. Thanks. --ZimZalaBim (talk) 20:26, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

I have every right to create an article

--ÆlfwineA bit o' wine? 20:33, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, you do. But this is a community with particular rules and guidelines. We cannot accept copyright protected material, nor do we allow articles that are merely external links to other websites. Please visit How to write a great article for more help. --ZimZalaBim (talk) 20:37, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Nonsense edit in User talk:ZimZalaBim
Please do not add nonsense to Wikipedia. It is considered vandalism. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox. Thank you. Please take the time to read through the various tutorials and articles that have been pointed out to you, and you'll quickly learn how to make constructive contributions to this encyclopedia. Thanks. --ZimZalaBim (talk) 20:52, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Good Luck in This Dog Eat Dog World Buddy
May the force be you.

I'll Adopt You
Hello, ! I see that you have expressed an interest in being adopted by an experienced editor. I accept your request, being an experienced editor myself. Whether you want to learn about wiki markup, find something to do, or just talk to somebody, I'm the one you can talk to - just leave a message on my talk page. Good luck with Wikipedia!

I notice that you have had some frustration in your Wikipast. I'm willing to help you, and it takes forever to wear my patience down. I'll teach you how to create articles that won't be deleted, and I'll do my best to keep other people from frustrating you. Just remember, Assume Good Faith, and be civil. When you return from your Wikibreak, drop me a message, ask me what you want to know, and we'll begin. I look forward to meeting you and showing you the ropes, -- T H L CCD 05:53, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

I have no idea why the link on the home page was deleted. Anyway, what do you want to learn first? Do you want to start with writing articles, or something else? Cheers, -- T H L CCD 21:58, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Writing Articles
Alright, here we go. The first step to writing an article that won't be deleted is to start it somewhere that it can't be deleted. The area I'm talking about is your personal user space. By typing Special:Mypage/Article Name into the search bar, you will open up an unwritten article titled User:Ælfwine/Article Name. This article is officially yours until you decide to move it into the realm of actual articles, or have it deleted. As long as you aren't using this area to blog, for a chat room, or for personal attacks against other users, things kept in this area won't be deleted. This is where you can keep your articles until they are good enough to not be deleted. For an example of one of mine, see User:The Hybrid/Glitch. I am keeping an article about a glitch in one of the Pokémon games there until I can find sources for the information. The majority of the article is Original Research, so I'm not moving it out into real article space yet. I got to that page by typing Special:Mypage/Glitch into the search bar. If you are reading this, I'm already typing the next stage under it. Cheers, -- T H L CCD 22:15, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

The next stage, and the one you want to know about the most, is actually writing the article. This will be divided up into a few sections; the first being, how to write a good stub. The best way to go about this is to start out with an overview of what the article is about. This includes very notable information, such as the CEO, main character, purpose, ect. Some of these may not apply to all articles, of course. Then, the fact will get more specific. What are you going to be writing your articles about, mostly? I would like to give examples that apply to your specific case, as I will be getting fairly specific in the coming stages. I will also be available to help you out with writing your first few articles. The best way to learn is through experience. Cheers, -- <font color="Blue">T <font color="Red">H <font color="Green">L <font color="Gray">CCD 22:31, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Ah, Harry Potter I see. Not my specialty, but I will do my best. Give me a second. -- <font color="Blue">T <font color="Red">H <font color="Green">L <font color="Gray">CCD

I don't know anything about these, so I'm going to make educated guesses about some things. In order to best begin this article (the oddities one), it would probably be best to give an overview of all of the oddities. Something good to mention would be how different they all are from one another (assuming that they are). Also, while you are writing the article, keep in mind what Wikipedia is not. The thing about pressing the A button isn't going to work, sorry. Things like that get removed right away, and if an article isn't anything more than that, it gets deleted. Also, in order for a game article to be kept around, it must show why it is important enough to be its own article, and not merged into the article on the game itself. A great way to do this, and give an overview of the oddities, is to tell how they affect the plot of the game. Not how each individual one affects the plot, yet, but how they affect it in general. Like, do they usually unlock items, are they usually enemies, give advice, ect. If you have any questions on this, ask. Otherwise, go ahead and try this on your article, and let me know when you think you are done. Cheers, -- <font color="Blue">T <font color="Red">H <font color="Green">L <font color="Gray">CCD 22:45, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Glad I can be of help. If they don't really affect the plot, then it would probably be best to write about something else. Thanks for your tip on my glitch page; I forgot to tell you, I may have even forgot to put it in the article, that they are the glitches in red, blue, and yellow. I'm going to check on that now, and I look forward to continuing when you return. Cheers, -- <font color="Blue">T <font color="Red">H <font color="Green">L <font color="Gray">CCD 23:02, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Wow, it had been so long since I looked at my glitch article I forgot what it was about :D. It is about Glitch City itself. Cheers, -- <font color="Blue">T <font color="Red">H <font color="Green">L <font color="Gray">CCD

Sorry I wasn't on. My schedule in real life is unpredictable. Are you still on? -- <font color="Blue">T <font color="Red">H <font color="Green">L <font color="Gray">CCD 22:58, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Hi Aelfwine
I'm sorry I didn't respond to your SOS last night. To be perfectly honest, I didn't know what to do, because when I got on so much had already happened and you had already went on your (short!) Wikibreak. Consequently, I tabled it for tonight.

Anyhow, I see that you went and got yourself an adopter. He seems very helpful, patient, and nice!. I wish he was MY WikiDaddy - *sniff* ;).

There's another nifty thing on Wikimedia that I think you might like. It's called "Suggestbot". It's a bot that compiles a short list of things you might be interested in doing based on things you've already done. You put your username on the list for suggestbot, and a few days later you get a list from it sent to your user talk page. I got my first one today, and I'm stoked!. It's on my user talk page right now if you want to check it out.

I still don't have much of a clue as to links or what-not (can you help?), but the URL is this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SuggestBot if you like what you see. Bear in mind that suggestbot is NOT a mandate to do whatever you want with those articles, nor would suggestbot be "assigning" you anything. It's simply pointing you in the direction of needed edits that might interest you.

More specifically, two new projects announced that they were seeking editors on the Community Portal page that might interest you: Project South Park and Project Red Dwarf. Forgive me if I'm way off base. If I am, there's actually a whole little list of projects that are seeking new folks.

As for the whole "Sear's Campaign" thing, I'm sorry that happened. When an admin deletes an article, it is definitely NOT something to take personally. This topic went up for a process called AFD (article for deletion), where various editors exqmine the article and assess whether or not it's truly a "Wikipedia" article. This topic didn't make the cut in that process. You can find the link to the AFD page at the Community Portal.

Please keep a level head - that's very important. You're going to encounter editors and admins who won't just disagree with you - they'll be mean too. Zim may have done something that you didn't like, but he sure wasn't mean about it. If you want to see mean, I can show you mean around here....

If you're always polite, and you always communicate as clearly as you can, you'll get what you need from folks.

I've got to go, but I hope to hear from you soon as to how you're making out.

NinaEliza 04:44, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

PS: I can't read most of your user talk page - I don't know about the whole all black thing (just a thought)...

Sure!
I see you have changed the color of your talk page - wise, I think. A fun idea though...

My goal is to finish as many of the things on my Suggestbot list as I can before the next post from Suggestbot comes. So tonight, I'll be working on Giffnock (in Scotland), the Peter Tosh Album Mystic Man, and the television show Oprah After The Show. These are stubs that need to be expanded.

So if you want to help out, just join right in! I need more information and links on ALL of these topics. I found a useful page here. Plus, it's almost certain that I'll need technical assistance. If I do, I'll be sure and ask you first :).

I'm so glad you're happier - I'm happier being here too!

NinaEliza 03:04, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

PS: Look at all the links I can do now! Yay for me!

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Your contributions
They were transfered over to this account. -- <font color="Blue">T <font color="Red">H <font color="Green">L <font color="Gray">CCD 00:08, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Hey Aelfwine
Welcome back! - so by now you know that your name was officially changed. I don't know what happens to this page - but I'm writing to you on your Darkest Hour page as well. Your Wikidaddy came to me last night and I did a little investigating. It's quite disarming, I know. I had to change my name myself.

Glad you're still around! NinaEliza 03:34, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

When you're ready
Whenever you're ready we can pick up where we left off. I may be a little busy, as I am mediating a dispute as well as dealing with someone who may be a sockpuppet of a user I feuded with before he got banned. However, I will do my best to give you the attention you deserve. Cheers, -- <font color="Blue">T <font color="Red">H <font color="Green">L <font color="Gray">CCD 23:29, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

I think I know whats going to happen to you....
Youre gonna get blocked because all you ever do is talk on other pages and NEVER edit the main space. Why? -- Mi ss  in  gn  o.  20:53, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Why is it your business? Leave the dude alone. --Chris Griswold (  ☎  ☓  ) 05:42, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
 * And, 99.9% of the time, blocking is only to be done to prevent damage to the encyclopedia. Editors are allowed only edit talk pages. –Llama man 23:51, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a blog, webspace provider, or social networking site
Wikipedia is not MySpace. You may not host your own website, blog, or wiki at Wikipedia.

Don't Worry
The person who said they were going to block you has left completetly. I will talk to anyone else. To future people who want to block this user for the same reason as Missingno, I'm going to teach this editor how to edit in the main space. That is why he asked to be adopted. I'm taking care of it; just be patient. Now Darkest Hour, whenever you're ready we can pick up where we left off. -- <font color="Blue">T <font color="Red">H <font color="Green">L <font color="Gray">CCD 12:14, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Also, it only looks like he never edits the main space. He has tried to write articles, but they get deleted so they don't show up in his contributions. -- <font color="Blue">T <font color="Red">H <font color="Green">L <font color="Gray">CCD 12:15, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Um
Um, this is very strange. Could you restore your talk page please? This is kind of awkward to look at. -- <font color="Blue">T <font color="Red">H <font color="Green">L <font color="Gray">CCD 20:33, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Thank you. I'll look for that Wii template. -- <font color="Blue">T <font color="Red">H <font color="Green">L <font color="Gray">CCD 20:38, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

How about this? -- <font color="Blue">T <font color="Red">H <font color="Green">L <font color="Gray">CCD 20:43, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

My bad
That was my mistake, I fixed it. -- <font color="Blue">T <font color="Red">H <font color="Green">L <font color="Gray">CCD 20:54, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Merging Pages
First, if you think that your merger will be opposed by another, then you should propse it. You do this by putting on the top of both pages. If you feel that one page should be merged into another, rather than having the two merged together, then put at the top of the page that you feel should be merge into the other. After that, put at the top of the page that you feel should be merged into. -- <font color="Blue">T <font color="Red">H <font color="Green">L <font color="Gray">CCD 20:55, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Merging pages isn't even near advanced magic. There isn't really a way to help someone merge a page into another page (unless there is a mass merger, but that is for another time). It is really a one man job. You start by proposing the merger. If it passes, then you go ahead and copy the good text from one page into the other. Reformat the good page as necessary, and then blank the page that will be abandoned. Add #REDIRECT OTHER PAGE to the page that will be abandoned, and then save both of the pages to finish the job. That is all there is to it. It is actually very easy to do. To see a merge that I have done, see Scorched Slab and Fortree City. Cheers, -- <font color="Blue">T <font color="Red">H <font color="Green">L <font color="Gray">CCD 21:10, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Don't go to all of that trouble. I'll talk to a couple people, and take care of it with one edit :). How is a very long, boring speech about writing templates. No offence, but you aren't ready for that yet. Cheers, -- <font color="Blue">T <font color="Red">H <font color="Green">L <font color="Gray">CCD 21:19, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Actually, I was clicking around a couple of pages about user boxes and templates and stuff. As it turns out, it is the responsibility of the individual user to remove that from their page. You don'thave to worry about it, that's their problem. Cheers, -- <font color="Blue">T <font color="Red">H <font color="Green">L <font color="Gray">CCD 21:22, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

New Pages Patrol
I see you've decided to join the new pages patrol. I'm proud of you. Category:Speedy deletion templates is the most important page for any new page patroller. Just thought that I would point this page out to you. Cheers, -- <font color="Blue">T <font color="Red">H <font color="Green">L <font color="Gray">CCD 22:46, 30 November 2006 (UTC) Yes, but you use the templates given in that category to add the page to a category of pages for speedy deletion. Admins scroll through that list, clicking on the pages, reading the reason why it should be deleted, which the template you add to the article has right on it. In the NP patrol, you aren't the one deleting the page; you are the one adding the templates that admins will see when they scroll through their list. I'm not an admin either. -- <font color="Blue">T <font color="Red">H <font color="Green">L <font color="Purple">R <font color="Gray">CCD 22:21, 4 December 2006 (UTC)