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Northern Inuit Dog
Hi, I have removed the two external links you added to Northern Inuit Dog as they were both to breeders personal websites - sorry, these do not get included in dog breed articles as they are trying to sell pups. Thanks for trying to find extra info about the breed though. SagaciousPhil  -  Chat  17:57, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it's a judgment call; WP:ADV says, "Links to potentially revenue-generating web pages are not prohibited, even though the website owner might earn money through advertisements, sales, or (in the case of non-profit organizations) donations". I can understand why these wouldn't be welcome in breed articles, though :-), and still agree with you that the topic is not sufficiently notable; the only decent source (and it's not much) is that zoo-veterinary-group paper. Happy New Year and all the best,  Miniapolis  ( talk ) 18:27, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
 * We're just starting to get ready for New Year celebrations (we're in Scotland)! The guidelines for dog breed articles actually state not to add breeder sites as external links - even breed clubs are frowned on as it could get out of hand with the number of them. I try to use the better breed club websites for references as most have pretty in-depth histories, health etc. I'm just removing a breeder link from one of the BSD articles as it keeps being added (and oh look, they just happen to have a litter recently whelped!) . Have a great New Year!  SagaciousPhil   -  Chat  18:39, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

2013

 * Thanks, and Happy New Year to you too! All the best,  Miniapolis  ( talk ) 21:25, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

GOCE Coordinator
Congratulations on becoming a coordinator! As you probably already know, the main tasks involve making sure all the pages are kept up to date and properly organized. If you haven't already, add WP:GOCE/COORD to your watchlist, since that's where we can consult with each other on administrative questions. I'm working on putting together a task list to make it easier to remember all the little details of project maintenance. Let me know if you have any questions. —Torchiest talkedits 14:26, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Here is the task list I'm working on. —Torchiest talkedits 15:18, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Must admit I'm a bit daunted by the learning curve, but it'll work out fine. Happy New Year and all the best,  Miniapolis  ( talk ) 15:56, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Haha, don't worry. It's mostly just making sure everything is running smoothly.  The GOCE mostly runs itself. Mostly. ;) —Torchiest talkedits 21:06, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

It's the "mostly" I'm thinking about :-). All the best, Anne  Miniapolis  ( talk ) 21:24, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

Interested in Mentorship
Hello Miniapolis,

I've come to your page via my membership in the Guild of Copy Editors. I have been editing wikipedia for two and a half years or so. I'm from Guam and have an interest in Guam related articles and Micronesia related articles. As you can see from my contributions most of my edits are Gnome-like, nothing spectacular. I enjoy wikipedia and learn more and more everyday. I am by no means an expert. But I try. That being said, after almost three years here I would like to make more significant edits and perhaps even create a page or two. But I feel I'm not ready. So I'm looking for some sort of Copy Edit mentorship. I don't know what that would entail and if you would be interested in mentorship but I feel I've learned about as much as I can here without asking for help. Thank you. Sprinkler21 (talk) 04:01, 1 January 2013 (UTC)Sprinkler21
 * Hi, Sprinkler21, and thanks very much from a fellow gnome for your interest in improving the Guam- and Micronesia-related articles. I enjoy WP for the same reason you do: there's so much to learn! Take a look at this page; it has just about everything you need to know in one place. As you probably know, the January backlog-elimination drive has just started, and a good way to get started copyediting is to work on the backlog. One hint I learned from Stfg: instead of using the GOCEinuse tag (which tends to get removed if you get sidetracked for any reason), just remove the copyedit tag before you begin; as long as you remember to finish the article, that works well. Hope this helps, and I'll keep an eye on your articles. Happy New Year and all the best,  Miniapolis  ( talk ) 15:54, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Sprinkler21 (talk) 03:38, 2 January 2013 (UTC)Sprinkler21

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December 2012 Wikification Barnstars!
Happy New Year,  benzband  ( talk ) 17:01, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks, and Happy New Year to you too! All the best,  Miniapolis  ( talk ) 18:15, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

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Dog conch
Thank you so much Miniapolis for your very prompt response to my request for a copy editor to help us with the FA review of Dog conch! This is Project Gastropods very first attempt at an FA, so we are newbies at this. Plus much of the text of the article was put together by people for whom English is not their first language. Your copy edits so far look really great, and thanks so much for putting in alt text on the images, something we (and the reviewers so far) have overlooked! Invertzoo (talk) 19:03, 6 January 2013 (UTC)


 * I love it! Thanks very much; I'm glad to help, and should finish it tomorrow. All the best,  Miniapolis  ( talk ) 02:43, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

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Copy Edit Drive
Just wondering what the wordcount signifies? Is it words added, words changed, etc? It may seem like an odd question, but I've copy-edited Andrew A. Jacono, and since quite some text was irrelevant or just superfluous, I ended up with about 120 words less than the original... Thanks in advance! Mathijsvs (talk) 12:02, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi, and welcome to the GOCE! The word count is the number of words in an article before it's copyedited. There's an easy-to-install script (meaning even I could do it :-)) on the main drive page which will add a "Page size" link to the Toolbox on the left side of the page (if you're copyediting a section instead of a whole article, the page-size link works when you click to edit and then click "Preview"). If for some reason you want to do it the old-fashioned way (for example, if your article has a lot of lists or tables; the page-size script doesn't count them), copy and paste the article itself (minus any infoboxes, etc. at the beginning and references, etc. at the end) into any word processor that will give you a word count (I use MS Word). Hope this helps. Have fun and all the best,  Mini  apolis  22:28, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
 * That explains a lot, thanks! :) Mathijsvs (talk) 04:33, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Jill Marsden
Yeah, sorry about that, please revert my revert. I see what you were doing now. Bleaney (talk) 00:19, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
 * No problem, and thanks for your understanding. All the best,  Mini  apolis  01:28, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Talkback
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Geet Ramayan copyedit
Hi. Thank you very much for you much appreciated edits on the article. -  Vivvt  &bull;&#32; ( Talk ) 22:24, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Glad to help! All the best,  Mini  apolis  22:28, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

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A little request
Hey! Could you take a little look at Santa María de La Cabeza castle and do some copyedits to it? It's a pretty short article and should only take some 20 minutes to read and copyedit. I have worked on it doing copyedits, but I'm still not comfortable with it and may need an outsider to fix what I can't see. Thanks. — ΛΧΣ  21  15:42, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
 * P.D. It is already listed at GOCE's copyedit requests. — ΛΧΣ  21  15:42, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Sure.  Mini  apolis  15:44, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

For you

 * Thanks!  Mini  apolis  19:39, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

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Re: Deadalive
Just wanted to drop by and express my thanks that you copyedited "Deadalive"! It looks great!-- Gen. Quon   (Talk)   02:12, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the delay; we're chronically short-staffed :-). Good luck with FA and all the best,  Mini  apolis  02:16, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

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A cookie for you!

 * Glad to help; it's a very interesting article! All the best,  Mini  apolis  14:21, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Psychic Readings Live
Hi Anne. Good move! In addition, thngs like "... programme's launch .[4]" stink of copy-paste, possibly in this case from elsewhere in wikipedia, as there's an unsuperscripted "[dated info]" later on. Have you run copyvio checks? Cheers, Simon. --Stfg (talk) 17:04, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for contacting me about this. I did think this just needed a copy edit when I nominated it, but I see things have gone seriously downhill since then and it actually has several issues. Deletion may be the best option. Alternatively, to start from scratch again. I'm happy if you want to remove this from GOCE. Paul MacDermott (talk) 18:39, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
 * This was the version I submitted. As you'll see it had its problems, but was fairly well referenced. I'll confess I haven't checked it since then so didn't know someone had added lots of copyvio stuff. I'm going to revert back to that, and see if I can do something with it. Paul MacDermott (talk) 18:54, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm not certain that it was copyvio -- could have been vandalism or incompetence. See how in the first paragraph of this edit, for example, a perfectly good named ref gets replaced with "[2]". Who knows why! The version of 30 December still looks like a normal article. --Stfg (talk) 19:07, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Looking through the history there's been a lot of anon ips editing this - I suspect many of them by disgruntled viewers. I've edited my last version from 4 December and taken out the unreferenced material. This is now the visible version, which should hopefully be ok. I'll keep a closer eye on this and watch out for any changes. Paul MacDermott (talk) 19:17, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

One of the IPs seems to be an SPA; I'll leave a note on their talk page (for what that's worth :-)). I haven't checked the other(s) yet, and will be on a few days' wikibreak due to a family visit but will get back to this ASAP. Thanks to you both for the clarification and all the best,  Mini  apolis  00:27, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

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How have you been my friend? It's been a while! :) I've finally nominated Kareena Kapoor for FA and was wondering if you would be able to comment on the FAC. Thanks! --  Bollywood Dreamz  talk 04:11, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Be glad to, today or tomorrow (as soon as I finish the article I'm copyediting). All the best,  Mini  apolis  15:19, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

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Thanks for the heads up
I have removed all of my entries, pending review. Using your guidance, I selected an article on the list, and did my best. Would you please take a look at my work and let me know if I am back on track?  Buster40004  Talk 22:41, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Will do, ASAP. All the best,  Mini  apolis  23:06, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Great, but the word count I got was 941. How have you been obtaining your word counts? All the best,  Mini  apolis  23:10, 27 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Hmmmmm. I thought I should use the difference between the start count and the finished count.


 * 941 words of "readable prose size" after editing, 912 words before, difference of 29 words. Should I report the ending total?   Buster40004  Talk  03:06, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
 * The number you want to use is the readable prose size before you begin editing; after a copyedit, most articles are a bit shorter. All the best,  Mini  apolis  14:54, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
 * But I just noticed that your example is a bit longer :-). No worries; just use the word count before you begin in the future.  Mini  apolis  14:56, 28 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks! I understand it now,  Buster40004  Talk 23:42, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah, the bookkeeping seems so complicated at first but it's manageable once you get used to it :-). Have fun and all the best,  Mini  apolis  01:04, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks very much
Thanks very much for undertaking the WP:GOCE copyedit for Beck v. Eiland-Hall, much appreciated, &mdash; Cirt (talk) 21:58, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
 * My pleasure; it's an excellent article, and I love a happy ending :-). I'll have it done tomorrow. All the best,  Mini  apolis  01:08, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay, sounds great, keep me posted, &mdash; Cirt (talk) 21:36, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Almost done. Great article! All the best,  Mini  apolis  22:11, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks again! Would it be alright to notify you and ask your input, in further steps along the quality improvement process, for example next step peer review and step after that, perhaps, FAC??? &mdash; Cirt (talk) 22:41, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Sure—I'll be glad to help. It's a good idea to have a peer review before submitting the article to FAC; they look at image-permissions, footnotes and what-not. Let me know and all the best,  Mini  apolis  23:42, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

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