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Administrators' newsletter - February 2017
News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2017). This first issue is being sent out to all administrators, if you wish to keep receiving it please subscribe. Your feedback is welcomed.

Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg NinjaRobotPirate • Schwede66 • K6ka • Ealdgyth • Ferret • Cyberpower678 • Mz7 • Primefac • Dodger67
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Briangotts • JeremyA • BU Rob13

Guideline and policy news
 * A discussion to workshop proposals to amend the administrator inactivity policy at Wikipedia talk:Administrators has been in process since late December 2016.
 * Pending changes/Request for Comment 2016 closed with no consensus for implementing Pending changes level 2 with new criteria for use.
 * Following an RfC, an activity requirement is now in place for bots and bot operators.

Technical news
 * When performing some administrative actions the reason field briefly gave suggestions as text was typed. This change has since been reverted so that issues with the implementation can be addressed. (T34950)
 * Following the latest RfC concluding that Pending Changes 2 should not be used on the English Wikipedia, an RfC closed with consensus to remove the options for using it from the page protection interface, a change which has now been made. (T156448)
 * The Foundation has announced a new community health initiative to combat harassment. This should bring numerous improvements to tools for admins and CheckUsers in 2017.

Arbitration
 * The Arbitration Committee released a response to the Wikimedia Foundation's statement on paid editing and outing.

Obituaries
 * JohnCD (John Cameron Deas) passed away on 30 December 2016. John began editing Wikipedia seriously during 2007 and became an administrator in November 2009.

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13:37, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

Suicide Squad
Hi Miniapolis! Thanks for your guidance with the Suicide Squad article. In my efforts to improve the citations and overall neutrality of the article, I found this link: http://www.worldlibrary.org/articles/suicide_squad_(comics) and some of the content appears word for word (or near enough) in the Wikipedia article. The World Library entry doesn't appear to be cited in any way, within the Wikipedia article. I'm uncertain of whether the World Library article is drawing from the Wikipedia article, or vice versa. I've yet to do a full side by side comparison, although I will be.

Would you mind checking out the World Library entry on Suicide Squad (comics), giving it a brief once over and let me know if we have cause for concern here? I am a fairly new (here less than a full month) editor, so I'm not wanting either to over-react or ignore an issue.

First paragraph in the World Library article:

"The Suicide Squad, also known as Task Force X (actually the name of a closely related but independent supervisory organization), is a name for two fictional organizations in the DC Comics Universe. The first version debuted in The Brave and the Bold (vol. 1) #25 (1959), and the second in Legends #3 (1987). An "original" Suicide Squad was retconned into existence in Secret Origins (vol. 2) #14, in order to form a connection between the two Squads. The modern Suicide Squad (created by John Ostrander in the aforementioned Legends #3) is an antihero team of incarcerated supervillains who act as deniable assets for the United States government, undertaking high-risk black ops missions in exchange for commuted prison sentences. The group operates out of Belle Reve Penitentiary, under the directorship of Dr. Amanda Waller."

First paragraph in the Wikipedia article:

The Suicide Squad, also known as Task Force X (the name of a closely related but independent supervisory organization), is a name of two fictional organizations appearing in American comic books published by DC Comics. One of the first versions debuted in The Brave and the Bold #25 (September 1959), and the second version, created by John Ostrander, debuted in Legends #3 (January 1987). The Suicide Squad initiative functions as an unorthodox work release program, which explains why many of the DC Universe's supervillains remain perpetually on the loose—regardless of how many occasions they are apprehended and incarcerated for their latest crimes. The modern incarnation, the Suicide Squad, is an antihero "strike team" of incarcerated, death rowsupervillains. Acting as deniable, covert assets of the United States government, it undertakes high-risk, black-ops missions in exchange for commuted prison sentences (see penal unit). The group operates out of Belle Reve Penitentiary under the directorship of Amanda Waller.

Kind regards, Curdigirl Curdigirl (talk) 03:58, 2 February 2017 (UTC)Curdigirl
 * The "World Library" page appears to be a copy of a previous version of the Wikipedia page. See WP:BACKWARDSCOPY for a good explanation of how this happens. In short, it's very unlikely that the text on Wikipedia is a copyright violation. This set of pages, which I just discovered, is a good resource for finding out about these copies. – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:48, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

Dignity
Hello, Miniapolis - I just stumbled across the article on Dignity. At the top of the page I noticed that a "See also" link to a disambiguation page for Dignity appears twice. I think the links are going to the same disambiguation page. I don't know which one to remove, or how. Can you take a look at it? – Corinne (talk) 04:54, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi, Corinne. I removed the second, duplicate hatnote. All the best,  Mini  apolis  15:13, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks! By the way, do you know of a "Find and replace" tool that I can use when I have to make a change to many instances of the same word (or phrase) in an article? I am using Google Chrome. I know where the "Find" tool is, but I don't see a "Find and replace" tool. – Corinne (talk) 16:17, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
 * I usually copy the whole article out into a text editor like TextWrangler (Mac OS) or Notepad++ (Windows), do the Replace there, and then copy the whole thing back. If you do that, always use the "Show Changes" preview to make sure you are only making the changes that you want to make.


 * You can also do the work in Microsoft Word, but be careful: Word is sometimes overly "smart" and makes formatting changes that may be undesirable. A plain text editor is better for this sort of work. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:28, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
 * I prefer editing "live" in the edit window, which has a find-and-replace tool. Click "Advanced" (to the left of "Special characters") on the toolbar, and another toolbar will drop down with a search-and-replace icon on the far right (the magnifying glass and pen). You have to be careful, though, not to break reflinks with it :-). All the best,  Mini  apolis  19:37, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Jonesey95 and Miniapolis! I'll try both of them. – Corinne (talk) 01:35, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

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Post on my talk page
Hello,

I replied to you on my talk page, and pinged you, but im not sure you got it, could you give it a look?

Thank you, Xevus11 (talk) 16:03, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

Four years ago, today...
Wishing Miniapolis a very happy adminship anniversary on behalf of the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Chris Troutman ( talk ) 02:20, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Copyedit
Could you copyedit the article Peruchazhi once again ?. Looking at the talk page I see you already copyedited it once, in April 2016. The article has changed since then. I had made a request at the guild, but it would be nice if you copyedit it as you are already familiar with its content. Please reply. -- The Bat Totem 10:10, 14 February 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by The Bat Totem (talk • contribs)
 * If you read the top of this page, you would have seen that I can't accept individual copyedit requests due to time constraints. Since it's on WP:GOCE/REQ, I or someone else will get to it ASAP. Everyone on the list ahead of you also wants their article copyedited, and it's unfair of you to try to jump the queue.  Mini  apolis  14:43, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Oh sorry. I did not read that. There is no hurry, take your time. I just want you to know that the article needs a second copyedit. Thanks.-- The Bat Totem 18:47, 14 February 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by The Bat Totem (talk • contribs)
 * No worries. Please sign your posts with four tildes ( ~ ), because thinks your posts are unsigned. Thanks and all the best,  Mini  apolis  21:36, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
 * The problem may be in your preferences; your signature markup needs to link to your user page.  Mini  apolis  21:40, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that info.-- The Bat Totem 06:42, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

User names
I once asked Jonesey95 about this but I can't remember the precise wording of his answer and I can't find the exchange. I think it was close to the time I started as assistant coordinator, and I was just starting to archive completed requests. I had noticed that some editors have a different name, kind of like a nickname, after a pipe in their user name. For example, MisterCake has "Cake" after the pipe. I think that was the name I asked Jonesey95 about. I decided to use only MisterCake so that is what shows up in the requester column (and MisterCake did not complain about it). Just now, I copy-edited an article entitled Theft of the Holy Relic from the Hazratbal Shrine. When I went to archive it, I saw that the editor had something different (quite different, actually) after the pipe in his user name. For the time being, I decided to list it the way the requester wrote it in the original request. But, if we are to be consistent, and follow the pattern of using only the name before the pipe (as I used "MisterCake" instead of "Cake"), then I should change it to the name that appears before the pipe. What do you think I should do? – Corinne (talk) 02:23, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
 * I always use the actual, unstyled user name (the one that appears before the pipe) in the Requests archive (and the drive/blitz leaderboard and Barnstars page). – Jonesey95 (talk) 04:51, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
 * I do the same (and thanks for the stalk, Jonesey). All the best,  Mini  apolis  14:48, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I'll make the change. – Corinne (talk) 16:27, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
 * No need to change it, as long as the username is bluelinked. It's a matter of personal preference; I just find it easier to copypasta usernames from talk pages. All the best,  Mini  apolis  16:32, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

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Acıgöl-Nevşehir
I'm in the middle of copy-editing a volcano article, and when I changed a hyphen in a link to an en-dash, the link turned red. Then I looked at the article and saw that the title has a hyphen. It is Acıgöl-Nevşehir. Shouldn't this be an en-dash? If so, I don't know how to change it in an article title. – Corinne (talk) 04:38, 17 February 2017 (UTC)
 * I believe that it should be an en dash. I moved the article (look under the "More" menu at the upper right; see Moving a page) to the name with a dash, leaving behind a redirect with the original hyphenated title. – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:50, 17 February 2017 (UTC)
 * I'll agree to disagree with Jonesey on this one. AFAICT the volcano name indicates conjunction (which calls for a hyphen) rather than an en dash, which indicates a range (such as towns at either end of a road). Dashes and hyphens in article titles are a PITA; if I have trouble linking to an article title (and can't tell by looking which the hell it has), I just copy-paste. All the best,  Mini  apolis  (who avoids hyphen wars like the plague) :-) 15:11, 17 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes, this is a judgement call. It seemed similar enough to Comet Hale–Bopp, and to the section of MOS:DASH that is headed "In compounds when the connection might otherwise be expressed with to, versus, and, or between", that I moved it. I also forgot to mention that I also looked at a couple of sources and found a high-quality one that I added to the article. That source uses the en dash. It is all, I admit, a pain, but leaving the hyphenated redirect is helpful, at least. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:53, 17 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks, both. – Corinne (talk) 16:16, 17 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Should Anglo-Ashanti wars have an en-dash instead of a hyphen? If so, how do you enter an en-dash in the "new title" when you are moving an article? – Corinne (talk) 05:01, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
 * IMO (and per MOS:HYPHEN) it should be a hyphen, although Apteva (a participant, IIRC, in the hyphen wars) wrote a useful essay advocating the en dash. I don't know of a way to incorporate an en dash into a page move (and HELP:MOVE doesn't address the issue), but instead of moving it you could use DISPLAYTITLE. All the best,  Mini  apolis  15:07, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
 * (Sigh.) Thank you for the tip about display title. Besides MOS:HYPHEN, a little lower down on the page is MOS, and there are some interesting points and examples. I looked at List of conflicts in Europe, and just skimming the list looking for names with two words, I saw that by far the majority had an en-dash; there were only a few with a hyphen, and I am too tired, and the list is too long, for me to study them to see if there is a real reason why those are hyphenated. Jonesey95, any thoughts? – Corinne (talk) 00:56, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Honestly, I'm a little gunshy after the last one. It looks like it should have a dash to me, but you might ask at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history for a third opinion. – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:59, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

Yeah—language is always in flux, and when a hyphen or an en dash (not em dashes, thank God) should be used is subject to interpretation. For some reason (maybe the influence of journalistic typesetting), the hyphen seems to have fallen out of favor; however, in many current uses it's interchangeable with an en dash and I'm old-school. With everything else going on here in the US, I just can't bring myself to sweat this :-). All the best,  Mini  apolis  14:54, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

D.Gray-man
Thanks a lot for copyediting the article and sorry that it was too large. I'll give my best to make it become FA. Regards.Tintor2 (talk) 20:26, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
 * My pleasure. I didn't find it too long, and consolidated the talk-page GOCE stuff and what-not with Article history; I find that template very complicated, so the practice was good :-). Best of luck with FA! Cheers,  Mini  apolis  21:16, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

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