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Forestry
It's nice to see someone actively working on forestry-related articles. While there isn't a forestry-related WikiProject, you might be able to find support, encouragement and suggestions at WikiProject Agriculture (as they have defined it, forestry falls within their scope, but I'm not sure how active they are), WikiProject Ecology (not the most active group), and WikiProject Plants, which is a fairly active group.

Anyway, if there's any way I can help, let me know. And keep up the good work. Guettarda (talk) 06:08, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

I have reverted at least some of the edits you have made to university articles adding a link to a list of forestry universities. I do not think it is appropriate. Lists of universities in particular disciplines would make this too long and it seems spammy. Also the "See also" sections are for the reader to find more information closely related to the subject itself not about stuff like other universities that teach subject X. -- Bduke   (Discussion)  23:34, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Skid cone
I noticed that the Skid cone article has been proposed for deletion. It strikes me as potentially notable enough, but I really don't know for sure...would you be willing to take a look at the article and see if you think it's worth keeping and improving? I'm going to remove the prod template so you can have a look at it. If you don't think it worth keeping, I'll restore the prod. Guettarda (talk) 06:57, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Discussion about the map on Upper Midwest
Hi, I have started a discussion at Talk:Upper Midwest to discuss which of the two maps should be on the article. I see you have been a past contributor to the article and therefore am notifying you of the discussion. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 00:59, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

License tagging for File:Quercus suber aka cork oak modified.jpg
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OOK
I noticed your work to Outline of forestry.

Nicely done.

Please consider joining WP:WPOOK.

 Th e Tr ans hu man ist   23:51, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Minnecologies
I'm here to ask you to jump in on the deep end.

I'm desperately looking for someone willing to maintain a birdseye view of the project. By this I mean keeping a lookout over the OOK and all the outline articles in the encyclopedia, all outline drafts, and all support pages (including the guidelines, the WP:WPOOK and its subpages (especially the Projected outline), and all related talk pages.

It's not time commitment that matters here, but scope.

Sometimes important discussions pop up that affect or even endanger the project, or one of its many branches (each outline page is a branch in the Outline of knowledge). Many editors don't understand the role of outlines on Wikipedia, and some don't even know what an outline is. I can't be everywhere at once (though at one time I thought I could), and so we need others willing to help keep an eye on things. The more eyes on the talk pages especially, the better.

There is a lot going on, and I can no longer keep up with it all. The OOK has grown to around 500 outlines. There are a few hundred more entitled "List of" that haven't been renamed or reformatted yet but which need to be watched along with the rest. There are a couple hundred more outlines that are drafts in the WP:WPOOK's draft space. And there are still more planned that are merely redlinks on the Projected outline. And more to be planned (which is what the projected outline is for).

So your first assignment is to watchlist and watch everything in the OOK system and the OOK project, and familiarize yourself with the big picture and how the whole thing works.

There are watching instructions in the newsletter above.

To help you learn your way around, the main OOK-related pages and their shortcuts are:

The directory can also be used with "Related changes"

Welcome to the team. :)

I look forward to your reply on my talk page.

 Th e Tr ans hu man ist   00:20, 20 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm sure you have it watchlisted, but I have considered your request and joined the WP:WPOOK as its 24th member :). I think I'll be completely done with the forestry outline within the next 10 days or so. I don't believe I'm as knowledgable in any other one outlinable subject, but could contribute substantially across a lot of related or semi-related topics (in particular I'm intrigued by research). If you have anything specific in mind, let me know and I will be more than willing to contribute. Minnecologies (talk) 21:08, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I familiarized myself with the OOK structure and policies when the WPOOK template was put on the forestry outline talk page, so I believe I have a pretty good idea of how everything works. I am also quite inclined towards making lists (see my masterpieces here and here), so I've read through all the guidelines pertaining to that. For now I could oversight and watchlist everything, but as the project picks up steam I would like to concentrate on the science outlines, perhaps even making a guideline for how they're to be developed? For now I think I will get started on the merges. Minnecologies (talk) 17:54, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
 * That sounds good to me.  Th e Tr ans hu man ist    21:58, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Outline collaboration #2: Outline of Gibraltar
This outline is approaching completion.

I added a bunch more links, finding them with the following Google site-specific searches of Wikipedia:
 * "of" and "Gibraltar"


 * "in" and "Gibraltar"


 * "for" and "Gibraltar"


 * with "Gibraltar" not at the end

(You can use the wikicode for the links above as the basis for new searches - just replace "Gibraltar" with any other country or region name).

Request: please redirect the redlinks! (bluelinking...)
The redlinks need to be bluelinked where possible. The most useful way is to create redirects leading to the material (which is usually included in a section of an article - see Redirect. That way, when the redirect pages are replaced by the actual articles, the links will already point to the right places.

Please take a crack at it, and bluelink a few.

Thank you.

Good luck.

Have fun.

 Th e Tr ans hu man ist   00:48, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

I finally got to whack somebody with a trout!
That was fun. :)

 Th e Tr ans hu man ist  

Outline update - Push push push - 06/25/2009
Work is proceeding apace...


 * Julian is working on getting a bot account (and he delivered this update as his trial run).
 * Penubag is working on the Project page and upcoming contest.
 * Buaidh is developing all of the U.S. state historical outlines.
 * Tarheel95 is writing a proposal to add a link to the Main Page leading to the the OOK.
 * Highfields is integrating the OOK into the encyclopedia by deorphanizing outlines by placing a main link in the see also section of the subject articles that have a corresponding outline.
 * I've been trying to keep up with them. :)


 * New members


 * Minnecologies - developing Outline of forestry and is watching the big picture.
 * Mnation2 - improving Outline of Lebanon


 * Hatnotes

The current consensus is that we can't place a hatnote leading to an outline at the top of a subject articles unless the outline being presented is of at least the same quality-level as the article.


 * What's next...

Improve outline quality by completing them.

Place hatnotes for the outlines of high enough quality.

Guidelines pertaining to outlines need to be updated. Outlines emerged as a class of pages only a few months ago, and most of the relevant guidelines don't cover them specifically. For example, Stand-alone lists is incredibly out of date.

Invite wikignomes, wikielves, and wikifairies (all 2500+ of them) to help on the outlines.

Identify 600 more subjects with coverage extensive enough to justify outlines, create rudimentary drafts for them, and post notices to the corresponding WikiProjects and subject talk pages to help build them.

Convert outlines titled "List of" to outline articles, and add them to the OOK. There are a few hundred of these. Conversion instructions are needed.

Add a description of outlines to About Wikipedia and Basic navigation, and add tips about outlines to the WP:TOTD and Tips library.


 * Keep up the great work!

 Th e Tr ans hu man ist   20:27, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Forestry Edits
Hello Minnecologies - Nice message on a nice day. Thank you, nice of you to offer! Yes, I do need to find ot more about Wikipedia and will read to learn more on Wikiprojects. Pls let me know how I can find out, when your proposition has become a wikiproject. Hope responding here is ok, too! Isiaunia (talk) 22:38, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Hello Minnecologies and sorry it has taken me so long to reply! Thanks for the invite, for which I am thankful. I certainly would like to participate and even refer this initiatives to others who may be interested in adding to it! Thanks for complimenting the WFC job, although it can certainly be ameliorated... and it will be, little by little! What do I need to do in order to join, please?Isiaunia (talk) 18:33, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Finished outline review
After months of working on it, I feel that the Outline of forestry has finally been completed, and is awaiting your review as is requested on the WP:OOK page. Minnecologies (talk) 03:30, 29 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I've posted my reply to Talk:Outline of forestry.  Th e Tr ans hu man ist    19:26, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject Outline of knowledge/Drafts/Outline of the American Indian Wars

 * On a similar note, I added a planned outline for the American Indian Wars. Although not as "official" as the others, it is an important part of American history and justifies an outline. Maybe we could recruit some members from the United States or Military history wikiprojects to help complete them. Minnecologies (talk) 17:07, 25 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Good idea.


 * Please post a request to each of those WikiProjects' respective talk page.


 * Creating a rudimentary draft first would be even better. Helps jump-start things, because editors don't sit their scratching their heads about how to create the outline - it's so much easier to modify what's already there.


 *  Th e Tr ans hu man ist   20:06, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Request for feedback
Minnecologies has done an incredible amount of work on Outline of forestry and posted a note to me on my talk page requesting feedback.

I've posted my observations at Talk:Outline of forestry.

Please take a look at the outline and let Minnecologies know what you think of it on the outline's talk page.

Thank you.

 Th e Tr ans hu man ist   19:37, 29 June 2009 (UTC) Delivered by JCbot (talk) at 20:15, 29 June 2009 (UTC).


 * I've replied to your reply at [].  Th e Tr ans hu man ist    23:14, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I think you did a wonderful job, well done! -- penubag  (talk) 09:24, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject Forestry
Thanks. Guettarda (talk) 19:44, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Hmmm...template's not working right (see here). What template did you base it on? Guettarda (talk) 20:14, 30 June 2009 (UTC)


 * It didn't take me long to figure out that it was beyond my (very limited) skill-set. The real hero is User:Rkitko :)  Guettarda (talk) 12:42, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Cultigens and cultivars
The two above nomenclatural terms apply strictly to plants used in agriculture, forestry and horticulture. You may not use them but removing forestry as a category does not do the words a service. I have put the category back as it is definitely relevant to forestry. Granitethighs (talk) 22:25, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Re joining WikiProject Forestry
I appreciate your suggesting my joining the Project. Although I have done some work in the past and would be very interested in taking part, I am a little pushed for time at this moment for personal reasons. I would however love to take part and will do so as soon as I can. Thank you. Dieter Simon (talk) 23:44, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Outline Update - Exhausted - 07/10/2009
I'm sorry that I haven't been available to assign tasks lately. For the past 3 days (not including today) I've been almost totally consumed in discussions concerning the location and very existence of outlines. Today I finally broke free and got back to work on outlines. Felt good.

A great deal has been happening with outlines and behind the scenes. I just don't have time to tell you all about it this time around. Here's the best I can do...


 * How to watch what's going on with outlines

If you'd like a bird's eye view of everything that's happening with respect to outlines, see this page:


 * WP:OOKWL - watchlist for copying and pasting into your raw watchlist.

Or go to these pages (and click on "Related changes" in the sidebar's toolbox menu):


 * WP:OOKRC - a version of the above watchlist for use with "Related changes".
 * WP:OOKDIR - a list of key pages related to the OOK, along with their shortcuts.
 * WP:OOKDISC - list of discussions pertaining to outlines.
 * Recently converted to outlines

These outline articles, which were named "List of...", have been converted to an OOK format:


 * Outline of martial arts (was "List of martial arts-related topics")
 * Outline of wine - converted by Stefan (was called "List of wine-related topics")
 * Outline of the creation-evolution controversy (was "List of topics in the creation-evolution controversy")
 * Outline of actuarial science (was "Actuarial topics")
 * Outline of industrial organization (was "List of topics in industrial organization")
 * Recently merged into outlines

There are a lot of "List of" articles that are outlines. Some of them are on the same subjects as the "Outline of" articles. The following one have been recently merged:


 * List of finance topics into Outline of finance

 Th e Tr ans hu man ist   01:14, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Mathematics-related outlines
Minnecologies,

The mathematics department takes its lists extremely seriously. So, when we convert them to outlines, we should expect a lot of scrutiny. :)

See talk:Outline of combinatorics. (I did what I could from the sans-cut&paste terminal I'm at at-the-moment).

Keep up the good work.

 Th e Tr ans hu man ist   03:14, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject Forestry
I joined WP:FORESTRY. Thanks for the invite, I'll soon make updates to my entries and translate them to French.Pat604 (talk) 02:24, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Minnecologies, would you take a look at this...
I did a rough expansion of and converted this:


 * Outline of ancient Rome

Please take a look.

Thank you.

 Th e Tr ans hu man ist   01:58, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Indents
Hi. I just replaced a few indents that you removed here. Not a big problem at all, I'm just curious as to why it is happening?! Is it a script doing something odd, or are you trying to manually give some structure to the comments that I don't instantly intuit? Thanks. (reply here :) -- Quiddity (talk) 22:05, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Nothing goofy...I was just trying to save some vertical space and (IMO) making it easier to read :) Minnecologies (talk) 22:32, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah, ok :)
 * If you were trying to break up my wall-of-text, I'd recommend sticking to just adding linebreaks between paragraphs. When you altered the indent depth, it made it look like I was replying to myself, or as if someone was interspersing their replies into my original post. Replies always go one level deeper than their parent (See Talk_page for explanatory details and examples), until it gets ridiculous at which point we [undent] back to the single-level and start again. :) At least, that's how it works until mw:Extension:LiquidThreads arrives... (eta unknown).
 * Thanks again. Noreplyneeded :) -- Quiddity (talk) 23:07, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Outline Update - Basking in the light of knowledge - 07/28/2009
Phase two of outline integration (de-orphanizing outlines by adding links leading to them into article see also sections) is nearly complete. The better that outlines are integrated into the encyclopedia, the more use they will be to readers.

Due to greater exposure through outline integration, and with most of the OOK team on school summer vacation, development activity on outlines has increased a lot...


 * New members


 * Be sure to welcome our newest members to the team:
 * Tiamut
 * Mandsford


 * News : Outline of Palestine survives AfD


 * The outline was nominated for deletion for being too general in scope. The consensus was overwhelmingly for keeping it.


 * The most memorable comment was posted by Mandsford: I like the poetic name, anyway. [Outline of Palestine]. "Master Plan of Pakistan" and "Rough Sketch of Bangladesh" would be good too.


 * Special thanks to Tiamut for greatly improving the outline, and helping to save it from AfD.


 * To keep track of outline AfDs and other outline-related discussions, see WP:OOKDISC.


 * Who's active on Wikipedia this summer?


 * Courtesy of Rich Farmbrough, here's a list of editors by their edit counts over the previous month (8th June to 8th July).


 * It would be nice to get the most prolific Wikipedians involved with WP:WPOOK. If you can, find a good reason to contact one or more of them, and invite them to work on a relevant outline - or all 500!


 * Who's been up to what?


 * Buaidh, Highfields, and Gimme danger have been working on the government sections of the country outlines. Being that there are about 240 of these, with critical information being filled in on each, this is by far the hardest and most important chore of this WikiProject right now.
 * Penubag is working on a redesign of the top OOK page.
 * Tiamut has done an incredible job developing the Outline of Palestine.
 * And kudos also go to Eu.stefan for his work on Outline of Buddhism.

Thank you.

Here's what else has been going on...


 * New outlines


 * Recently created outlines include:


 * Outline of England - TT
 * Outline of Scotland - TT
 * Outline of Buddhism - Eu.stefan
 * Outline of ancient Greece - TT


 * Recently converted to outlines


 * These outline articles, which were named "List of...", have been converted to an OOK format and added to the OOK:


 * Outline of the Vietnam War - was "List of Vietnam War-related topics" - TT
 * Outline of combinatorics - was "List of combinatorics topics" - converted by Minnecologies
 * Outline of category theory - was "List of category theory topics" converted by Minnecologies
 * Outline of scientific method - was "List of scientific method topics" - TT
 * Outline of ancient Rome - was "List of topics related to ancient Rome" - TT


 * Recently merged into outlines


 * There are a lot of "List of" articles that are outlines. Some of them are on the same subjects as the "Outline of" articles.  The following articles have been recently merged into OOK pages:


 * List of finance topics into Outline of finance - TT
 * List of England-related topics into Outline of England - TT


 * Outlines that have been tagged
 * Tags are requests to fix a problem or improve an article in a particular way. Unless we want the tags to sit there for an extended period of time cluttering up the outlines (we don't), it is up to us to fulfill those requests or attend to underlying misassumptions (if any).


 * Outline of literature - tagged as Original research
 * Outline of ancient Greece - tagged as under construction
 * '''Outline of mathematics - tagged as in need of attention from an expert
 * Outline of arithmetic - tagged as not citing any references or sources.
 * Outline of immunology - tagged as an orphan
 * Outline of organic chemistry - tagged as an orphan
 * Outline of psychology - tagged as in need of attention from an expert on the subject
 * Outline of family and consumer science - tagged as an orphan
 * Outline of energy storage - tagged as an orphan
 * Outline of nuclear technology - tagged as  an orphan
 * Outline of ergonomics - tagged as an orphan
 * Outline of construction - tagged as an orphan
 * Outline of machines - tagged as an orphan
 * Outline of free software - tagged as an orphan
 * Outline of design - tagged as containing original research or unverified claims, and needing references or sources
 * Outline of automobiles - tagged as an orphan


 * I can't stress enough the importance of watching


 * With so many outlines (now over 500), and a growing number of support pages (guidelines, wikiproject pages, etc.), I can no longer keep up. I need your help watching over it all.


 * If you'd like to omnisciently view everything "from above", see this page:


 * WP:OOKWL - watchlist for copying and pasting into your raw watchlist.


 * Or go to these pages (and click on "Related changes" in the sidebar's toolbox menu):


 * WP:OOKRC - a version of the above watchlist for use with "Related changes".
 * WP:OOKDIR - a list of key pages related to the OOK, along with their shortcuts.
 * WP:OOKDISC - list of discussions pertaining to outlines.


 * What's next?

There are a lot of contradictions in guidelines related to outlines. I'll be turning my attention to fixing those.

The number of "Outline of" articles is rapidly catching up to portals, and will probably pass them by the end of the summer!

Keep up the excellent work.

 Th e Tr ans hu man ist   00:57, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Project goals / coordination
Hi Minnecologies,

I just read your post about WP:PROL at WT:WPOOK, and I thought this might be a good time to talk about the goals of the WikiProject.

In my mind, they break down into four areas:
 * 1) Outline integration
 * 2) Outline development
 * 3) Outline administration
 * 4) Outline interfacing

Here are my thoughts on each...


 * Outline integration

This is linking to outlines. Linking them together, and linking to them from other pages in Wikipedia.

There are 8 namespaces the outlines need to be integrated into: main & talk (articles), portal and portal talk, template and template talk (navigation templates), wikipedia and wikipedia talk (WikiProject pages, intro & help pages, policies and guidelines, and directories).


 * Outline development

This includes maintaining and refining existing "Outline of" articles, merging other lists that are actually outlines into the corresponding "Outline of" articles, converting/renaming structured lists into "Outline of" articles (when one does not yet exist), and creating new outlines.


 * Outline administration


 * Running the WikiProject
 * Maintaining open task lists
 * Delegating tasks directly to members
 * Maintaining morale
 * Writing and distributing the newsletter
 * Planning
 * WP:PROL
 * Rewriting and maintaining the Outline article. See WikiProject Outline of knowledge/Drafts/Outline
 * Maintaining and improving relevant policies and guidelines
 * Monitoring and participating in relevant discussions
 * Innovation

Concerning planning the WP:PROL, see WP:CORE, Outline of Dewey Decimal classes, Library of Congress Classification, List of academic disciplines, and Fields of science.


 * Outline interfacing

Program features for outline support, and for outliner-style display and editing (applicable to all articles, while retaining standard wiki-file formatting). These would be additional features, rather than modifying the default modalities (though the prevailing paradigm may shift to this over time).


 * First things first, second things not at all...

The priority in each area, based on overall impact and on dire ramifications (if not done), may be considered to be:


 * In outline integration: deorphanize outlines (many aren't linked to from the main namespace at all)
 * In outline development: the government branches sections of the country outlines (executive branch, legislative branch, judicial branch) - these outlines were generated by template and these sections include the data that matched the most countries, which makes that data in error for all the rest! This erroneous information must be corrected ASAP.
 * In outline administration: develop the outline article draft - this is the logical place to point to for a detailed description of what outlines are and their applications, and could solve most problems with respect to editor ignorance concerning outlines (which is the root cause of most anti-outline proposals, and support thereof)
 * In outline interfacing: write design specifications for (outliner-style) interface and editing alternatives for Wikipedia

 Th e Tr ans hu man ist   18:59, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

OOK goals
Of the four essential aspects of the OOK you listed, I find the administrative one most appealing and fitting for myself. I have a good idea of what makes a good outline and what it takes to get there, so I'd be filling to help you out with developing the guideline (in addition to the helpful tips). I am sort of confused though- we have the main outline guideline right now and the draft, were you planning on completely revamping it and then transferring it all to article space? Or are they intended to be separate articles? Minnecologies (talk) 19:06, 29 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Welcome aboard. I'm very happy that you are taking an interest in the big picture.


 * WikiProject Outline of knowledge/Drafts/Outline is an article draft - when completed, it is intended to replace the article titled "Outline (hierarchical)".


 *  Th e Tr ans hu man ist   19:12, 29 July 2009 (UTC)


 * The "other OOKs"

Dewey and LCC are both outlines of knowledge.

So, as outlines have been completed, I've been swapping out the Wikipedia article links on them with links to the outlines.

(Making the Dewey and the LCC defacto top-level navigation pages for Wikipedia).

After the OOK gets much more extensive, we could do the same thing to List of academic disciplines and Fields of science.

 Th e Tr ans hu man ist   20:56, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

We're working on something special...
...to award Buaidh for all his hard work.

It's at User:Penubag/Sandbox3.

But it's not done yet. Feel free to help improve it.

I'm hoping that everyone involved with the WP:WPOOK will sign it (please sign without a timestamp).

Thank you.

 Th e Tr ans hu man ist   22:54, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

OOK collaboration: Outline of knowledge (eom)
Delivered by – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk at 21:41, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Minnecologies, a request...
Someone just created Outline of regression analysis.

It appears that outlines are catching on, even in mathematics!

You did an excellent job on Outline of combinatorics and Outline of category theory.

If it wouldn't be too much trouble, could you continue the conversion of the mathematics outlines?

As time permits.

It would really help a lot.

This doesn't need to be done quickly, just steadily.

 Th e Tr ans hu man ist   01:30, 1 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your work on WP:WikiProject Forestry, the invitation to join, and the WP:WikiProject Forestry/Userbox. pradtke (talk) 18:01, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

forestry
thanks for the inquiry......    not sure where the group is. Rvannatta (talk) 21:42, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Minnesota Meetup
 2009 Proposed date: Saturday, October 10. Details under discussion. Please share this with anyone who may be interested.  Delivered by Jonathunder (talk) 16:08, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Converting projected outline for easy comparison
I'm in the process of converting the projected outline to the same format as the OOK, to make it more intuitive, and enable the editor to spot at a glance links for outlines (planned or under development) that are not yet in the OOK.

See WP:PROL

 Th e Tr ans hu man ist   23:21, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

The conversion entails adding all the links not yet there from the old version of this page (WP:PROLT).

Then we shall move on to expanding the projected outline, with outline links named for topics included in WP:CORE, WP:VITAL, WP:VA/E, Outline of Dewey Decimal classes, and the Library of Congress Classification. The selection of topics from those is subjective - add whichever topics you believe are extensive enough to support an outline page.

 Th e Tr ans hu man ist   00:18, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Outline Update - expanding the Outline of Knowledge - 2009-10-05
Time for some catching up...


 * Special award and thanks to Buaidh

Congratulations and kudos to Buaidh, the first recipient of the Wikipedia World Developer Award, and the first inductee into the Outline of Knowledge WikiProject's Hall of Fame.

The award was announced about 2 months agos on the WikiProject's talk page, and on Wikipedia's Community Bulletin Board.

Buaidh created the historical outlines for all of the U.S. States, the U.S. capital, and most of the U.S. insular areas. He has also worked indefatigably day after day, improving all of the outlines of the U.S. States, and the outlines of all of the countries of the world!


 * Who's been up to what?


 * Buaidh, working hard on the country outlines.
 * Highfields, MacMed, and I worked on the see also sections of the subject articles corresponding to the outlines (adding or updating the links to the relevant outlines and indexes).


 * Wiki-Zombies

Discussions can sure be frustrating - try getting a proposal through on a guideline's talk page sometime. Most of the time, it seems like the opposition is mindlessly following each other, like...

Zombies. (You've got to see this).


 * Outline of Knowledge

Yes, it's a proper noun. It's only proper, since we also have an article called Outline of knowledge which is about knowledge generically.


 * OOK expansion!

After a couple month vacation, I'm ready to slam the gas pedal to the floor. Are you?

Things are speeding up!

Take a look...


 * New to the OOK

The following outlines have been added to the OOK within the past couple of months or so. Some of them were renames, some of them brand new, and some of them recently discovered after sitting in article space for awhile as orphans.


 * Outline of knowledge - yes, your eyes do not deceive you!
 * Outline of birds
 * Outline of regression analysis
 * Outline of water - Highfields
 * '''Outline of string theory
 * '''Outline of quantum theory
 * '''Outline of evidence law in the United States
 * Outline of libertarianism
 * Outline of radio
 * Outline of painting history
 * Outline of hydrology
 * Outline of rights
 * Outline of tort law
 * Outline of parapsychology

Here's some more pages that have been renamed to outlines even more recently, but that need to be converted to OOK format:
 * Outline of project management
 * Outline of production
 * Outline of counseling
 * Outline of sustainable agriculture
 * Outline of pseudoscience
 * Outline of human-computer interaction
 * Outline of video gaming
 * Outline of neuroscience
 * Outline of Boolean algebra
 * Outline of Green politics
 * Outline of vaccines
 * Outline of noise
 * Outline of mathematical logic
 * Outline of circles
 * Outline of linear algebra
 * Outline of number theory
 * Outline of organic gardening and farming
 * Outline of futurology
 * Outline of group theory
 * Outline of clinical research
 * Outline of electrical engineering
 * Outline of rail transport
 * Outline of curves
 * Outline of genetic genealogy
 * Outline of environmental studies
 * Outline of geometric topology
 * Outline of U.S. chemical weapons
 * Outline of puzzles
 * Outline of industrial archaeology
 * Outline of graph theory
 * Outline of numeral systems
 * Outline of set theory
 * Outline of partitions
 * Outline of U.S. biological weapons
 * Outline of real analysis
 * Outline of fishing
 * Outline of abstract algebra
 * Outline of eggs
 * Outline of dynamical systems and differential equations
 * Outline of ancient Egypt
 * Outline of computer vision
 * Outline of network theory
 * Outline of differential geometry
 * Outline of obstetrics
 * Outline of complex analysis
 * Outline of triangles
 * Outline of Lie groups
 * Outline of numerical computational geometry
 * Outline of functional analysis
 * Outline of general topology
 * Outline of computability and complexity
 * Outline of order theory
 * Outline of commutative algebra
 * Outline of algebraic topology
 * Outline of topology
 * Outline of polynomials
 * Outline of combinatorial computational geometry
 * Outline of recreational number theory

The following pairs of pages are content forks and need to be merged:
 * Lists to merge into outlines:


 * List of probability topics --> Outline of probability
 * List of software engineering topics --> Outline of software engineering
 * List of nanotechnology topics --> Outline of nanotechnology
 * List of calculus topics --> Outline of calculus
 * List of geometry topics --> Outline of geometry
 * List of community topics --> Outline of community
 * List of futurology topics --> Outline of futurology
 * List of American Civil War topics --> Outline of the American Civil War
 * List of computer programming topics --> Outline of computer programming
 * List of entertainment industry topics --> Outline of entertainment
 * List of health sciences topics --> Outline of health science


 * Not sure what to rename these to:
 * List of noncommutative topics in mathematics
 * List of MCAT topics (another ook!)


 * Rough outlines, renamed/moved to draft space:
 * List of information technology management topics --> WikiProject Outline of Knowledge/Drafts/Outline of information technology management
 * List of human resource management topics --> WikiProject Outline of Knowledge/Drafts/Outline of human resource management
 * List of suggested topics for computer networking research --> WikiProject Outline of Knowledge/Drafts/Outline of computer networking


 * Lists that can be structured into decent outlines:
 * List of exponential topics
 * List of computer graphics and descriptive geometry topics
 * List of multivariable calculus topics
 * List of factorial and binomial topics
 * List of permutation topics
 * List of algorithm general topics
 * List of stochastic processes topics

Only a few hundred more to go. :)

 Th e Tr ans hu man ist   04:46, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Spanish favour
Hi,

I was hoping you could do me a favour that requires being able to read Spanish? An editor that shows many indications of being a vandal has added this text to a page, verifying it with a Spanish-language webpage. Would you be able to let me know if it's legit? Previous contributions from the editor have included pretty blatant vandalism, but also an edit that, upon review, turned out to be bogus. Though I'm rather sure it's vandalism, etiquette suggests we get a review.

Thanks, WLU (t) (c) Wikipedia's rules: simple/complex 01:04, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Given the history of the account, I'm guessing it's simply another attempt to snow the other editors by providing a difficult-to-verify reference that doesn't quite support the text it is attached to. Thanks very much for your assistance.  WLU (t) (c) Wikipedia's rules: simple/complex 20:35, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
 * No magic, Category:User es-5 > Special:Contributions/Minnecologies, you were the first one with contributions in the past couple days. You "lucked out"   WLU (t) (c) Wikipedia's rules: simple/complex 22:30, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Could I beg one more favour? Could you review this revision to see if the sources adequately justify the points?  Much obliged.  Seeing as you've been offline for a couple days, I'll probably try my luck elsewhere also; if I am successful I'll let you know.  Thanks, WLU (t) (c) Wikipedia's rules: simple/complex 11:48, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
 * There's a reply on my talk page to your question, but also note that I've asked another Spanish-speaking editor (and admin, which would be useful if a block is needed) to look into the content (here). If you have questions about the source specifically, they may be a good person to talk to.  They indicated they'd try to get to it today as well, and I'll drop them a reminder later on today.  WLU (t) (c) Wikipedia's rules: simple/complex 19:03, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I'll port your comment over to the talk page. WLU (t) (c) Wikipedia's rules: simple/complex 22:15, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of VP-9
A tag has been placed on VP-9 requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a very short article providing little or no context to the reader. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content. You may wish to consider using a Wizard to help you create articles - see the Article Wizard.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding  to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag - if no such tag exists then the page is no longer a speedy delete candidate and adding a hangon tag is unnecessary), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the page does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that they userfy the page or have a copy emailed to you. Codf1977 (talk) 16:28, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for fixing this article, it no longer meets the criteria for WP:CSD, however in fixing it you inadvertently removed the CSD tag on an article that you created. Small point but thought I should point it out. Codf1977 (talk) 18:12, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
 * See WP:BURO and WP:IAR. If you agree that tag is no longer appropriate, then all's well. Guettarda (talk) 18:30, 5 June 2010 (UTC)