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Identification
Bass singer in the choir. A certain Herr Leidl sang Schubert's 'Der Wanderer' at a concert in Lubljana on 28 November 1851, and the quartet from Flotow's Martha with some others on 12 December. , p. 252. He also sang Ferrando (bass) in Il Trovatore in Timisoara, Rumania in 1858, with Leopold von Sonnleithner as Manrico (tenor). , p.78
 * Leidl (Lidel, Lidl)

Otherwise (less likely, but more interesting) there is a cellist, Joseph Lidl, the gransdon of Andreas, baryton player & composer with Esterhazy & Haydn, d. London.. Joseph Lidl played with Mozart's son in December 1840. Lidel (etc.) played as a student in a quartet in Munich with fellow students Jakob Zeugheer (later the first permanent conductor of the Liverpool Phil), and Joseph Wex (violins), and Carl Baader (viola). Chris Walton, Mendelssohn on the Mersey: the lives and work of Jakob Zeugheer. The Musical Times, Vol. 151, No. 1912 (Autumn 2010), p. 29. MinorProphet (talk) 11:08, 12 October 2017 (UTC)

Bass singer in the choir. Could be any (or none) of the following five people, but none sounds particularly like a professional bass singer:
 * Ziegler


 * 1) Anton Ziegler u. Carl Graf Vasquez, map makers.
 * 2) Carl Anton Ziegler, made an arrangement of Beethoven's Piano  Sonata  op. 2 no. 3, 1st movement. Beethovenhaus, Bonn
 * de:Friedrich Wilhelm Ziegler - member of Ludlamshöhle, playwright & poet - but quite old... b. 1756-1761, d. Sept 1827 Published "Die Freunde"
 * 1)  Johann Joseph Ziegler - Vienna flute maker, most popular system before Boehm (who made Schafhautl's powder in Birmingham. From the Clarinet D'Amour to the Contra Bass: A History of Large Size By Albert R. Rice, p. 62
 * 2) Leonhard Ziegler, delivered a letter from one Schnyder to LvB in 1816: H. P. Clive: Beethoven and His World: A Biographical Dictionary MinorProphet (talk) 11:08, 12 October 2017 (UTC)