User talk:Mismak Abel

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 * No. Thanks. Mismak Abel (talk) 12:39, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
 * You are right. You were only warning me to correct me. I should be grateful always. Thanks. Mismak Abel (talk) 12:42, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Living status of election candidates
Hi. I have reverted a large number of your edits where you have added a sentence about the living status of election candidates. There are two problems with what you have added. So to include this information you would first have to cite a reliable source, and also provide a date for it. Thanks. Escape Orbit (Talk) 16:18, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Firstly it is unsourced and appears to be a result of your own personal research. Wikipedia does not publish original research and requires sources.
 * Secondly, Wikipedia is not a dated publication. So telling readers the current status of people, and whether the election is the "most recent", is of little help to them because they have no idea when the fact was written.  It could be out of date, obsolete, and supplanted, while still claiming to be "recent".  People die and elections happen all the time.


 * Ok. Is it ok if I write down the informations by adding the portion of a sentence saying as of 2023? Mismak Abel (talk) 17:37, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
 * No, you need to cite a source. Where are you getting this information? How can the reader tell it's correct? I also suspect that most of it would be regarded as unimportant trivia.  Who cares if both candidates are dead in 2023?   What does that add to the article?  Just because it's a fact does not mean it's of any significance.  This is where citing a source would also help in demonstrate it is significant.  -- Escape Orbit  (Talk) 18:10, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Ok. Mismak Abel (talk) 19:31, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

You are still doing this. Please stop working out, and then adding to Wikipedia articles, trivia facts about; If you had a source, you might be able to demonstrate that some of these facts are significant. But currently it's all just trivia, that is your own original research, which is unsourced. This is not permitted on Wikipedia and you are wasting your own time, and everyone who has to keep removing it. Continuing to edit in this manner will likely get you blocked for being disruptive. Please stop it. -- Escape Orbit (Talk) 18:45, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
 * who was dead when, compared to other people.
 * who was the older/younger/oldest/youngest, compared to other people.
 * who was first/last to do something, compared to other people.


 * Actually you are right. I do not want to write down the things that I wrote down in the past ever again. I want to focus on correcting and editing mistakes on Wikipedia articles. You are right. Sorry. I apologize. I hate disruptiveness. Mismak Abel (talk) 19:33, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
 * It is better this way. Mismak Abel (talk) 19:34, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Don't be disheartened. Your other edits are good.  You just need to understand that what is added to Wikipedia cannot be things you researched yourself, they need to be things that other sources have already written.  -- Escape Orbit  (Talk) 12:52, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Ok. Mismak Abel (talk) 13:49, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I will try carefully to write down things that other sources have written down already and I will of course also write down the current year so that the readers would know when the writings occurred. Mismak Abel (talk) 13:57, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
 * To show where I got the source from that I have written on the Wikipedia article about the 1984 United States Senate election in Tennessee I have written down where I got the source from on my edit summary. It is there. Mismak Abel (talk) 18:33, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi. Please I want you to fix the edits on the article about the 1808 presidential election. Please do it. Thank you. Mismak Abel (talk) 22:10, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Please undo the messy edits that I made on the Wikipedia article about the 1808 United States presidential election. I am sorry for doing them. It was a mistake. I deeply apologize for it. Mismak Abel (talk) 13:16, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

Regarding the Lists of United States political families.
Hello, Mismak Abel. I have noticed your edits to the List of United States political families (S) page. I just want to suggest that it might be easier and faster to do the editing by grouping them up more rather than making a change or two, saving, and then making another change or two. Best of luck, Super Goku V (talk) 09:53, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

I'm going to dissect this one word at a time.
"I would ask you kindly to not reverse what I am going to edit now. I disagree with your edits and I have reversed them because edits similar to them are in this article and they have been left intact. Kindly stop. Just stop! Thank you. Stop with the vandalism."


 * "I would ask you kindly not to reserve what I am going to edit now." Why should I give you more respect than you gave me? I meticulously sourced and cited every single date, and you decided that wasn't sufficient?
 * "I disagree with your edits" Neat, I disagree with yours. If only there was some way we could resolve this?
 * "and I have reversed them because edits similar to them are in this article" That doesn't make sense.
 * "and they have been left intact." Are you talking about how sometimes, they left office on January 1, and sometimes, on December 31? That's because that's when they left office. If only there were sources that I cited that you could click to find out this! Oh well, alas.
 * "Kindly stop." No.
 * "Just stop!" You said that already. You seem to be taking this personally.
 * "Stop with the vandalism" This is going to be extremely important for you if you care to continue working on wikipedia: Disagreeing with you is not vandalism.

I await your comments, either here, on my talk page, or, where you should have gone to begin with, on the article talk page. --Golbez (talk) 03:49, 22 May 2023 (UTC)


 * I am guilty of lying by making a false accusation of vandalism when vandalism never happened with you. You are right. I will leave the edits as they are. I will just edit and correct the mistakes that I will find on different Wikipedia articles. Mismak Abel (talk) 06:41, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I deeply apologize for accusing you of vandalism. You are right. Sorry. I hate what I did against you. Mismak Abel (talk) 06:42, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I have reversed the wrong edits that I have made. Thanks for doing the right thing and correcting me due to your collaboration. Mismak Abel (talk) 12:38, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Actually I reversed the wrong edits that you made, then you made several more wrong edits. I do not understand you. --Golbez (talk) 14:03, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I meant to say that I have reversed some edits that I had reversed different from the ones you reversed and then on the other hand I was thanking you for your collaboration as a Wikipedia editor. Please do not misunderstand me. Ok? Thank you. Mismak Abel (talk) 05:01, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
 * But anyways thanks for doing your job. Mismak Abel (talk) 05:07, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I have a question. Why did you reverse the edits that I made on the Wikipedia article about governors of New York? You basically have written down edits with the end dates of some gubernatorial terms to 1 January      followed by the years in which the terms ended. Why are you saying that they did not expire on 31 December? Mismak Abel (talk) 05:57, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
 * The ones that are sourced as taking office at midnight get the Dec 31/Jan 1 treatment. All the others switched on Jan 1. --Golbez (talk) 13:06, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Ah. Okay. I see. Thanks. Mismak Abel (talk) 13:07, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
 * You were talking about having reversed the other edits that I made on the Wikipedia article of the governors of New York being wrong. I accept that. It is okay. I will leave it. Mismak Abel (talk) 05:58, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Sorry. Let me correct my typing mistake. I meant to say that you were talking about how the other edits that I made on the Wikipedia article about governors of New York were wrong. It is okay. I accept that. I will not reverse them. Thanks. Mismak Abel (talk) 06:01, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

Franklin D. Roosevelt - term of office
Hi. You've been asked several times to stop changing the end date for Roosevelt's governor term against consensus. It's getting a bit disruptive to the page, so you've been temporarily blocked from making edits to this one article.

You're free to edit the article again in one week, but if you still think the term expired on January 1 rather than December 31 it would help if you supplied some reliable sources to support your case. Rather than edit-warring in the article itself, it would also be helpful if you presented your argument and sourcing at Talk:Franklin D. Roosevelt so that the existing consensus can be evaluated, kept or changed. Happy to discuss further and all the best. -- Euryalus (talk) 04:35, 22 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Ok. I apologize. I will never ever reverse the edits again. Mismak Abel (talk) 06:42, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
 * You're welcome to reverse edits when they need reversing, just make sure you have reliable sources for your proposed changes. :) -- Euryalus (talk) 06:59, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Okay. Thanks. Mismak Abel (talk) 08:28, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I will not reverse the correct edits but the incorrect edits. Mismak Abel (talk) 08:28, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

re Ohio
Why are you so incorrectly confident that Cleveland won Ohio in 1892? Our article shows Harrison won. To quote some of your edit summaries: Get your facts straight and stop writing down falsity. For someone who is so insulting of others for putting incorrect info, you need to be more careful with what you publish. --Golbez (talk) 04:48, 5 June 2023 (UTC)


 * I apologize. You are correct. I am sick and tired of rudeness. I will learn to make corrections on Wikipedia with good manners always. Thank you for correcting my mistake. Harrison won Ohio in 1892. Cleveland lost Ohio to Harrison in 1892. Mismak Abel (talk) 08:38, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
 * I will always learn to have my facts straight always and then I will always and only act positively whenever I correct mistakes on Wikipedia. I hate rudeness. I love good manners. Mismak Abel (talk) 08:43, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
 * As a matter of fact whenever I will get to find mistakes on Wikipedia I will correct them on Wikipedia by being kind and nice to the editors who wrote the mistakes on Wikipedia. We all make mistakes and we learn from them. Mismak Abel (talk) 08:49, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi, Golbez. I have a question. Why is it that the popular vote percentages of presidential candidates in presidential elections do not have two digits each after the dots and before the percentage symbols in the upper parts of the articles of American presidential elections while they have the two digits after the dots and before the percentage symbols in the tables about the results of the presidential elections in the lower parts of the articles? Mismak Abel (talk) 20:37, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Don't know. That's a question best asked of the editors that work on those articles, either asking them directly or on the talk page. I've never dealt with the percentages so I don't know. --Golbez (talk) 20:47, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Ok. Thanks. Mismak Abel (talk) 21:20, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

July 2023
 You have been blocked temporarily from editing for abuse of editing privileges. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text at the bottom of your talk page:. DrKay (talk) 18:44, 11 July 2023 (UTC)


 * The reason why I want to be unblocked is because for real I had noticed that an editor was able to eliminate a profanity word on an article about Governor Chris Sununu of New Hampshire and his edit was not reversed. How is it that my edits that removed profanities on the articles that I had edited in different occasions have been reversed and they were not left where they were at? This is not fair. Show some respect. What you are doing is crazy. I am tired of this. Mismak Abel (talk) 18:55, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

To be clear, you are explicitly rejecting the path you were offered, correct? You are not interested in demonstrating you plan to edit constructively? --Yamla (talk) 12:00, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
 * No. You are wrong. You need to be corrected by me here or let me correct you here because I am willing to edit in civil ways and decent ways. I am willing to make constructive edits on Wikipedia articles. I am willing to focus on that. That is why I want to be unblocked. I actually mean it. Please understand me. Thank you.
 * Yes or no, are you planning on following the path I offered you to demonstrate you plan to edit constructively? --Yamla (talk) 12:10, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mismak Abel (talk • contribs)

Continued disruptive editing
You are continuing to edit disruptively. Please note that you have access to this talk page solely so you can contest your block, not so you can mess around with disruptive edits like this. You are in danger of losing talk page access so I suggest you knock it off immediately. --Yamla (talk) 13:01, 13 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Can you please help me sign the comment that I have to sign? Mismak Abel (talk) 14:16, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Mismak Abel (talk) 14:16, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
 * No need. And I see you know how to sign future comments, so everything's good. --Yamla (talk) 14:33, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Okay. I see. Thanks. Mismak Abel (talk) 14:34, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
 * So am I going to be unblocked now? Mismak Abel (talk) 14:37, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
 * No. You have not yet followed the directions above and frankly, asking this question strongly indicates you lack sufficient competence to be unblocked. --Yamla (talk) 14:39, 13 July 2023 (UTC)

As you are clearly rejecting the path I offered you to unblocking above, despite earlier today claiming you were accepting the offer, I very strongly oppose lifting this block. Furthermore, your actions today clearly demonstrate WP:CIR competence concerns. I will not respond further. --Yamla (talk) 15:05, 13 July 2023 (UTC) I solved the problem. It is all good. I am sorry for the mistakes that I had made.

Where did you make sample edits? I notice the two sentences you added but they aren't an example of an encyclopedic contribution as outlined in Yamla's instructions. Let me know if I've misunderstood and you've made the sample edits somewhere else. -- Euryalus (talk) 10:04, 14 July 2023 (UTC) No. I did not make sample edits somewhere else. Please just show me how to do it, please. I am sick and tired of wasting my time for real. Ok? Please. You know what? Never mind. It is ok. I will wait until after two weeks in order to return to edit like before after my block will expire.
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 * The choice is yours. However if you do plan to just wait out the block would you mind removing your latest unblock request? No point in having it open in the queue if you don't wish to be unblocked at this stage. All the best. -- Euryalus (talk) 03:19, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

Your recent editing history shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war; read about how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing&mdash;especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring&mdash;even if you do not violate the three-revert rule&mdash;should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. Slatersteven (talk) 15:07, 26 July 2023 (UTC)


 * I disagree with the edit that you made on the article about Joe Biden to reverse my edit because Joe Biden is the eighth-youngest senator in the United States history at the age of 30 years and 44 days after John Henry Eaton who was 28, Armistead Mason who was also 28, John Jordan Crittenden who was 29, Thomas Worthington who was also 29, Henry Clay who was also 29, Rush Holt Sr. who was 30 years and 2 days old and William Hill Wells who was 30 years and 10 days old. You need to explain your reason for your disagreement with me on this. Full stop. Mismak Abel (talk) 15:23, 26 July 2023 (UTC)

Joe Biden
Hi, user with the username 331dot. I hope you are fine. I wanted to talk to you about my disagreements     with your edits on the article about Joe Biden. I disagree with you on the edits that you made on the article about Joe Biden because Joe Biden was the eighth-youngest senator in the United States history at the age of 30 years and 44 days after John Henry Eaton who was 28, Armistead Mason who was also 28, John Jordan Crittenden who was 29, Thomas Worthington who was also 29, Henry Clay who was also 29, Rush Holt Sr. who was 30 years and 2 days old and William Wells who was 30 years and 10 days old. I am speaking based on the truth. Thomas Worthington was 29 when he became United States Senator from Ohio and William Wells was 30 years and 10 days old when he became United States Senator from Delaware. Explain to me why you disagree with me on this. Please explain to me clearly why you disagree with me on this. Thank you. I feel like your problem with my correct and accurate edits that you completely reversed to the point of disregarding carefulness on the way of doing things on Wikipedia is based on you not having checked the articles about Thomas Worthington and William Hill Wells. I checked them so I know what I am talking about and I know that my edits were right. Ok? I am waiting for some response from you. I don't want to engage in arguments and edit wars. I am here to have a peaceful, positive and decent conversation with you. Ok? I will wait for you to respond to me. Mismak Abel (talk) 15:13, 26 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Mismak Abel, the best place to discuss what should happen with the Biden article is at Talk:Joe Biden. I encourage you to think of ways to shorten your comment and to avoid personalizing the dispute. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 18:14, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Ok. Thanks. Mismak Abel (talk) 18:16, 26 July 2023 (UTC)

September 2023
Please do not add original research or novel syntheses of published material to articles as you apparently did to Elizabeth II. Please cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. Thank you. Celia Homeford (talk) 13:06, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

I fixed your wrong and false edit on Governors of Delaware
There is exact sourcing saying Wolf was inaugurated on January 3. If you have a source that disputes that then place include it - and no, the NGA doesn't count, they are used to establish the existence of the governor but they aren't reliable for dates, which is why I source every single date individually, and your edit ignored those sources. Your edit was far more wrong and false than anything it replaced. --Golbez (talk) 15:55, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

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