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Louise Nevelson
Hi. Not a big deal, but just wondering why you REVDEL'ed those 2 edits at Louise Nevelson. They seemed perfectly innocent to me. That sentence is slightly ambiguous. Station1 (talk) 06:59, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks
Greetings Missvain. I just wanted to let yoi know how much I appreciate your help with my draft articles. Thanks so much! Please let me know if I can be of assistance with anything. FloridaArmy (talk) 00:26, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

Angela Lorenz
Hi Sarah, hope your doing well in these weird times. I happened to come across Draft:Angela Lorenz (and Angela Lorenz / ). Might an interesting person for you to write an article about? Multichill (talk) 18:46, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

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Some BBQ, for you

 * Haha! Thank YOU! Missvain (talk) 18:34, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Don't know why....
.....but im inviting you to take part and give your opinion on this discussion - Articles for deletion/Stelth Ulvang. Regards Pesticide1110 (talk) 17:33, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

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Submission declined on 15 January 2020: Draft:Alexander Schubert
thanks for reviewing the page I've been creating. I've added more independant sources from British, German, and Australian national press as well as a handful of academic articles and chapters. Because the composer in question is outside mass media traditions I am working to guidelines 1, 3, 4, and 5 under NMUSICOTHER. I'll post this on the article's talk page before I resubmit. Georgery Kempe (talk) 16:41, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

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Numbers Fire
Thanks for your great work on the Numbers Fire. I had stubbed it in just because I happened to get a shot of its pyrocumulus plume from across Lake Tahoe. Dicklyon (talk) 05:56, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Great picture!! Thank you for starting it. :) Missvain (talk) 18:49, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
 * And I got some photos of the grass fires in Vacaville on my way home yesterday, but those don't appear to be notable. Dicklyon (talk) 05:49, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Cool! Still worth uploading regardless. I usually plug them into Wikidata even if they can't get their own articles! Missvain (talk) 16:01, 13 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Show me how. Do we need to find an official name for these fires first? Dicklyon (talk) 04:08, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Ah...I wish it was easy. I had to learn on my own. Let me see if I can a good guide or tool. Here's an example of one I created here based on the Mahogany Fire. I'm sort of just making it up as I go along.. LOL. :) Missvain (talk) 05:03, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Stubbed it in here. Dicklyon (talk) 03:36, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

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August 2020 at Women in Red

 * Thank you! Missvain (talk) 00:19, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

Happy Adminship Anniversary!
 Happy Adminship Anniversary! Have a very happy adminship anniversary on your special day!

Best wishes, CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 19:21, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Missvain (talk) 00:19, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

Your input
I have an RfC going on at Talk:Gwar regarding using all caps in an article and would appreciate the input of some long-standing Wikipedia editors who may be familiar with the policy, or at least be able to interpret the existing policy with some clarity. Thanks for your time! NJZombie (talk) 21:47, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Bwhahaha...not every day that GWAR comes across my talk page. I've seen then in concert a few times...last time was with the Misfits reunion tour in the early 2000s. Oy. Anyway, I'll go take a gander! Missvain (talk) 22:13, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I appreciate the input. Between 1990 and 2003, I think I saw them 30 times. These days, my fandom for them is bit more casual. haha! Thanks again! NJZombie (talk) 23:00, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
 * That's awesome, ha! I'm just impressed that the restaurant still exists. I never went when I was in Richmond. So funny... Missvain (talk) 23:33, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Request on 21:42:38, 30 July 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Lisalibrarian
Hello Missvain,

I apologize for taking so long to follow up on this project. I only just realized that my proposed AfC on Design Institute of San Diego had been rejected due to a lack of reliable sources. Since the draft page has now been deleted, I just requested its reinstatement so that I can review the sources I used and attempt to correct the problems.

As I stated in my conflict-of-interest declaration, I am currently employed as the Librarian at Design Institute of San Diego. As a librarian, I appreciate Wikipedia's commitment to the use of reliable sources. I looked at the Wikipedia entries of many other colleges and universities as I drafted the DI page, and it seems that an institution's website may be used as a reliable source for basic information about the institution (for example, number of students, or campus facilities) but information that is really marketing material aimed at prospective students should be cited. If there is anything else I should know about the appropriate use of an institution's website as a source of information for that institution's Wikipedia page, please let me know where I can find additional guidance.

Once the draft page is restored, I will examine the sources I used. If you are willing, I would appreciate the opportunity to ask more questions about the suitability of specific sources in this context.

Thank you very much, Lisalibrarian (talk) 21:42, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

Lisalibrarian (talk) 21:42, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

Hi, I looked up the official website and the About >> regional accreditation; seems worthy of having a basic non-marketing'y Wiki article! If you can populate more of and also iron out just a few of the existing sourcings, like maybe some CA newspaper published am article when the school was incepted and/or had a Grand Opening, I think republication would go through. Cheers. -From Peter {a.k.a. Vid2vid (talk | contribs)} 06:49, 11 August 2020 (UTC).

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River Fire
Another day, another smoke plume. Dicklyon (talk) 04:17, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

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How are you?
Hi Sarah! How are you doing? I hope you remember me :) I just checked, it has been more than 8 years since we last interacted! I hope all is going well with you. I remember supporting your adminship back in July 2012, brings back some good old amazing memories from back in the day :) Its great to see you contributing and supporting Wikipedia and continuing to be a productive member here. I look forward to learn many more helpful things from you in the present and future as well. Keep doing the great work! Best wishes. TheGeneralUser (talk) 00:13, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

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Prerna Gupta
Hi Missvain. My name is Prerna Gupta. You wrote the Wikipedia page about me back in 2012. Thanks for that!

I wanted to expand and update the page with an infobox and more detail using this draft. I have a conflict of interest, so I was wondering if you had a minute to take a look at the draft and let me know what you think.

I also have drafts on Hooked (app) here and a draft new page on my husband (a notable academic) Parag Chordia here if you have time.

I know you're very busy reporting on the fires right now, so no rush to respond to me.

Take care, Prerna Prernagupta1 (talk) 17:22, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi User:Prernagupta1. Alas, you won't be able to update your article at all due to you being the subject, ha! You also can't write about your husband. I'm pretty slammed (I also have two primary jobs I work outside of my freelance fire work) and it will be sometime before I can look at it. Let me see if I can recruit some folks to lend a hand and guide you on the processes. They would need to update the article and again, you can't write the article about your husband. They'll be able to determine if he qualifies for an article and if they have interest in writing it. Same goes for the app you developed. That's because of the WP:COI policy and could risk in you getting blocked or banned from editing and we don't want that to happen! Anyway, good to hear from you! Let me see if I can find some folks to help! Missvain (talk) 20:12, 18 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Thanks so much Missvain! I really appreciate your help. --Prernagupta1

Hi User:Prernagupta1. Like I wrote earlier, it's against policy for you to write or edit anything related to you - including the article on yourself, your husband or your business/work. Therefore, despite your good faith efforts, I'm unable to use the drafts you've created. What I suggest, regarding the article about yourself, is that you go to the talk page for Prerna_Gupta and leave a bullet point list of requested changes including reliable secondary sources (meaning things you haven't written but press coverage about you). Anything that fits our guidelines we'll work on changing in the article. Here are some more bits about having a Wikipedia article about yourself: About you.

I also suggest you do the same for the Hooked article - just leave a bullet point list with reliable secondary sources. Please focus only on critical changes - since we're volunteer driven we want to focus on pertinent changes and updates - not necessarily a tone or word change just because the subject doesn't like it (for example).

I need to think about how to proceed regarding your draft about your husband.... but hopefully the above is a start for you! I do hope you'll consider working on other articles that interest you. You did a nice job working on your drafts, but, due the conflict of interest we sadly can't use them. Missvain (talk) 02:34, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Here's also another link about requesting edits or having errors fixed in articles about yourself: Biographies of living persons/Help. Missvain (talk) 02:37, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Also, I just took a look at the article you drafted about your husband. Right now he doesn't meet our notability guidelines. The articles either mention him briefly, are in a non-notable secondary source (Medium is used sparingly, for example - almost anyone can publish on it), or have a conflict of interest with him (the NEA grant or a piece written by him). And alas, wedding announcements are considered mere mentions or conflicts of interest (since they are often paid for by the couple or family). Since it appears he fails our General Notability Guidelines, he may be eligible for meeting our Academics Notability Guidelines or our Musician Notability Guidelines. I don't think he does right now, but, perhaps there are things out there that weren't included in the article. I will bring in a second set of eyes to take a look. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news! Missvain (talk) 14:52, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

Cullen328 - I know you're a busy bee but I have a favor. Can you take a look over at Draft:Parag Chordia? It was written by User:Prernagupta1 - see above for our conversation. She wrote the draft about her husband. I wrote the Wikipedia article about her almost ten years ago. I don't think he passes notability guidelines. Can you take a look? Perhaps WP:Academic is another option... having a NEA grant or being part of a notable business doesn't inherently mean notable for a Wikipedia article, as you know. Thanks Jim!! Missvain (talk) 14:55, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Hello Missvain and . I think that these drafts should be submitted to the Articles for Creation process, which exists in part to allow for editors with a COI to have their drafts reviewed by experienced uninvolved editors. Prernagupta1, the first reference in the draft about your husband is excellent and certainly devotes significant coverage to him. The other references appear to be of lower quality. I suggest finding and adding better sources if they exist. Personally, I do not feel comfortable with either accepting or rejecting the draft. Because the two of you are business partners as well as spouses, you have a financial stake in these topics, so your first step is to comply with the mandatory Paid editing disclosure. Instead of writing drafts about topics where articles already exist, you should make formal edit requests on the respective talk pages of those articles. Feel free to ask follow-up questions. Cullen328  Let's discuss it  17:36, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks Cullen328. I agree with her submitting via Articles for Creation process! Missvain (talk) 17:49, 23 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Thanks Missvain and . It sounds like Parag Chordia may not qualify for a page right now.


 * Missvain, you said you are unable to use any of the content from the proposed rewrites of Prerna Gupta and Hooked (app) because they are coming from me. In contrast, said my draft could be used to improve the page.


 * Can you elaborate? I thought I was following best practices by disclosing my connection to the topic and sharing proposed content that could be approved/declined in-part or in-full by more impartial editors. Just want to make sure I'm doing it correctly! Prernagupta1 (talk) 19:58, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
 * You can totally submit tit through Articles for Creation if you want. And sure, folks can use the article you drafted (or the 'new version') to improve your article, but you can't do it yourself. I'd just post on the talk page of the article about yourself and link to the draft and ask for some updates. You can also post at Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard and the team there will make requested changes. :) Missvain (talk) 17:21, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Got it! I will do as you suggest. Thanks so much for all your advice and help!Prernagupta1 (talk) 17:07, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Origins of Kevin Merida
Hello, Missvain. I am just curious how much of this new article was built out of the Articles for Creation request that you seem to have rejected nine minutes later on the same day? I noticed this when I was exploring a probable conflict of interest that User:Michifornia likely has, but which I don't intend to pursue further. It just feels "wrong" (?) that you would obtain credit for a new article, after another editor made a good faith effort to get it started themselves. - AppleBsTime (talk) 16:21, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't even remember that. It was in 2012. Eight years ago. I don't remember most of the articles I write or work on - that's why I track the newer one's on my userpage so I can go back and tweak them. I know there were a few circumstances when I was new to AfC in which I'd later find out a subject was notable and I'd go back and "save" the article from AfC by copying and pasting it into new article space. That's probably what happened. I probably didn't know how the AfC tools worked to go back and "un" do something etc or resubmit it for review and then accept it. It happened a few times years ago from what I remember. I'm pretty indifferent about "obtain credit." If someone can magically find a tool to go back and give User:Michifornia credit (if that's who indeed credit is due) then go for it. I thought at the time I was doing the right thing when I realized a subject actually was notable after I rejected it and starting the article (WP:AGF). I can assure you, I am not a nefarious Wikipedia editor desperate to take credit for someone else's Wikipedia article. Missvain (talk) 17:08, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Re-reading my note, I must apologize for the accusatory tone that came across. I was just struck by the evidence of (1) Established editor creates new article about a subject that had been submitted to AfC, (2) same editor then rejects the AfC draft only minutes later.  It does sound like there was some confusion at work.  I can look into whether there is a way to re-assign the AfC draft as the "first" edit on the History page.  Regardless, I am convinced that the account Michifornia is either the subject of the article, or the subject's spouse.  The account's only activity is related to those two people and a business project that they are both affiliated with. - AppleBsTime (talk) 19:28, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Happy to report a successful merger of the histories! Wikipedia is cool. Be well. - AppleBsTime (talk) 17:10, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Ahhhh...that is the logical option. I wasn't even thinking about that. Sorry...been an intense couple of weeks and my brain is only half operating. Thank you for your efforts :) Missvain (talk) 22:15, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

Origins of Yuki Kislyak
Hello! I respect you very much, you published one of my articles in 2019 under the heading Women in Red. After that, I also created a page for the vocalist herself, the page was confirmed by federal authoritative sources, but an unfair participant appeared, go to https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuki_Kislyak and help to achieve justice in this Николай Назаров (talk) 15:26, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

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Candidate for Biden's Cabinet
Hi, I reverted your edit in Bob McDonald (businessman) because the source did not say he was a candidate. (Source used:) Instead, the NYT article says the Biden transition team is compiling a list of candidates and the writer(s) are speculating who might be on that list. Please don't use this source for this claim, and I invite you to use a different source or revert your edits for similar claims on other articles like Janet Yellen and Elizabeth Warren. (If you want help with that, just give me a shout.) Z1720 (talk) 21:48, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Feel free to use a different word then "candidate" if you wish. I don't think the fact that these are people considered for positions like this should be reverted. Also see Cabinet of Joe Biden. Missvain (talk) 23:00, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Besides, we'd have to remove mentions of E. Warren being considered for VP because she was a "candidate" but there was no solid declaration from the Biden campaign about it. Plenty of sources here. Missvain (talk) 23:03, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi Missvain, I'm in favour of Warren's article mentioning her consideration for VP because there are lots of sources stating she was vetted and interviewed by the Biden team at the time. Also, the US VP selection process receives lots of coverage in US media (and to a lesser extent in international media). Cabinet-level positions receive less media attention (both in the US and international media) and a large amount of positions means there's less significant coverage of a person who is considered for a job. As for Cabinet of Joe Biden, I was considering nominating it for AfD because of WP:SPECULATE but figured the article will become notable in a few weeks so I decided against it. I totally understand your disagreement, and I would support language like "McDonald was interviewed by the Biden campaign for the position of xxxx" if this information is verified by a WP:RS. Z1720 (talk) 23:17, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

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Re: November 2020
It's B.S. not B.A.

The source that's given says B.S. and so does the "Education" category in the page's template. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.137.126.233 (talk) 11:09, 19 November 2020 (UTC)