User talk:Missvain/Archive 56

AFD
Hi, I think that this AFD here I Wish I Were Stephanie V needs closing since it is in it's third relist that has been open for nine days now. I think it would be a no consensus vote. Davidgoodheart (talk) 22:20, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

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Articles for deletion/Barbara Umuhoza
You overstepped the mark here. Certainly calling whoever it was sweetiepie was insulting in a minor way, but on the other hand I think that his comments on my copmpetance were insulting. Not that two wrongs make a right. But you should firstly have left me to make an implicit apology by striking out the offending word ans secondly should certainly not have struck out my defence of my competence. I'd trout you, but it no longer seems to be on the menu.TheLongTone (talk) 16:05, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

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WP:AFC Helper News
Hello! I wanted to drop a quick note for all of our AFC participants; nothing huge and fancy like a newsletter, but a few points of interest. Short and sweet, but there's always more to discuss at WT:AFC. Stop on by, maybe review a draft on the way? Whether you're one of our top reviewers, or haven't reviewed in a while, I want to thank you for helping out in the past and in the future. Cheers, Primefac, via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:00, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
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Draft:Allister Adel
Hello, I wanted to let you know, per WP:RPDA, that I submitted a draft to recreate a page that you deleted in January 2020. Discussion here: Articles for deletion/Allister Adel. I believe the subject now has sufficient notability to warrant an article. Cheers! ErieSwiftByrd (talk) 06:11, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

Features for new users coming soon (and mentors wanted!)
Hello. I know you've not been active at the Teahouse for quite a while but, as one of its developers, I've always felt it appropriate to keep you listed as one of our hosts. I therefore wanted to make sure you and other hosts are aware of the imminent rollout of new Growth Team Features which every new account will be getting by default. Each users will soon see a new 'Homepage' tab next to their User  page. It contains two main elements which might impact on your involvement - and you'd be welcome to get  involved and help out directly with one of them. To spread the load on our current list of around 65 mentors, I'm reaching out to ask if you'd like to help out and sign up as one? The workload is relatively small; User  reports receiving four questions a month, on average, all of  which were simple ones of the type we already get at the Teahouse  and elsewhere, and I've had just the one in the last 3 weeks. To view a list of every question asked of all mentors over the last 14 days,  click here. If becoming a mentor and being available to help new users on their first few days here interests you - just as you already do at the Teahouse - then please consider signing up at Growth Team  features/Mentor list. Existing users can already 'opt-in' to seeing the Newcomer Homepage features via their  Preferences. Thank you! Nick Moyes (talk) 10:08, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
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 * Finally, each new user is randomly assigned a 'mentor' from a list of friendly, experienced editors, like yourself. If they get stuck, they can  ask a question directly to them via a Your mentor box, and hopefully get  a swift, friendly answer from that mentor.   Currently, this feature is given to 2% of new users, but it's set to  increase to around 10% in the very near future.

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Press release
If you hadn't pointed out what you did at the end of the first AFD discussion, I wouldn't have attempted the research. Showbusiness subjects tend to get enough participation. It's taken a while to address the point, but it wasn't lost you'll be glad to know. Uncle G (talk) 15:22, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

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anonymous 2xx.y.z.w user drafts
I saw you approved Draft:Frano Kulišić that was written by an anonymous user, and which contained some apparently wild claims about nationality. This is a matter I documented previously at Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive1088, and have since had to block this person from making main space edits, as they're producing generally shoddy work while apparently translating from Serbian Wikipedia, and occasionally throwing in complete garbage. In the Kulišić article, I already found a number of errors in the lead section alone. Please, in the future, apply more rigor when reviewing articles in this topic area (cf. WP:ARBMAC) and from this anonymous contributor. --Joy &#91;shallot&#93; (talk) 21:56, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

Likewise for Draft:Uroš Trojanović - apparently most of the reference tags in there are somehow weirdly broken. Why would you promote that? --Joy &#91;shallot&#93; (talk) 07:58, 26 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Because they are from a book. He just happened to hot link them. That can be fixed. I assume good faith. You should go through and reject all their articles since they are now blocked. Or leave a note on the top of each article informing editors. Thanks. Missvain (talk) 15:14, 26 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Assuming good faith is fine, just don't assume WP:COMPETENCE :) --Joy &#91;shallot&#93; (talk) 23:57, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

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Ungrammatical Dobbs edits
Hello. You have been editing the pages for every member of Congress who has commented on Dobbs. Many of your edits contain ungrammatical sentences such as "He calls Roe v. Wade 'partisan' and that it 'does not represent the values of our country.'" Could you please be more careful or leave this work to someone else? It has been quite tedious to fix them all. Thanks. AlsoWukai (talk) 02:16, 29 June 2022 (UTC)

Watson
Hey, I really question this decision of yours because those sources are terrible. #6 cites "online website", a title, a date, and an email address. #2 and 5 cite a publication for which I can find no evidence of it existing.

The last paragraph is utter garbage, as it reduces to "vanity publishers put his name in their book after he paid them." That should not be in any Wikipedia article for anyone. DS (talk) 19:58, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
 * User:DragonflySixtyseven - As one of a handful of Wikipedians who wastes time in the cesspool known as AfC, I say hello to you! Feel free to nominate it for deletion if you believe it fails notability or a similar policy issue. I did my due diligence outside the submission, as I do with every AfC I review, and decided the subject is notable. If you believe they aren't notable, then feel free to nominate for deletion, but, poor quality isn't enough to decline it (repeatedly, as the case with many notable subjects) in the hot mess known as AfC. I get tired of seeing articles sit around when all people do is overwhelm newbies who submit articles with criticism. Nor is poor quality enough to get it nominated for deletion.


 * Besides, 95% of these submitters are one time editors who just have an agenda. Let's just get them out of the way... and put them out of their AfC misery. If we sat around waiting for beautifully written, perfectly constructed, non-promotional, etc articles to magically appear on Wikipedia half of this encyclopedia would not exist. That's the great thing about Wikipedia - it can constantly be edited and articles can constantly be improved. Feel free to edit the article and make it better, too (as the immortal words go, WP:SOFIXIT!) Have a good day! Missvain (talk) 20:09, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
 * The user came on live chat several times to ask for help, and was asked - several times - if they had any better sources. "Yes, these." "No, here is what is wrong with those. Do you have anything better than those? I have researched the topic myself and find almost nothing." "Oh, okay. These are the sources I'm going to use." DS (talk) 00:51, 30 June 2022 (UTC)

Serhii Filimonov
I edited Draft:Serhii Filimonov to have better citations. Do you consider it sufficiently cited now to be published? Immanuelle 💗 (please tag me) 09:42, 30 June 2022 (UTC)

Robby Robinson (musician)
I noticed you approved this draft article recently. The article was written primarily by a paid editor so I wanted to confirm whether you believe the article had been neutralized for bias, and if so, can you update the tag on the talk page. AngusW🐶🐶F ( bark  •  sniff ) 16:44, 30 June 2022 (UTC)

Request on 02:57:08, 7 July 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by Daringsmith
Hey Missvain, thanks for taking the time to review the page and letting me know that the page subject has the potential to be on Wikipedia with more good references. I have done the research and found a few more good resources to be included on that draft page. Some found resources like (he was part of panel for ARS Electronica),  (his work in a museum is: Permanent collection in the Museum of Cryptoart),,  (Award nomination mention),  (his work in the COS (Challenging  Organisation and Society) journal), and a few more , ,.

Missvain, can you please do a quick review and let me know if these resources are good enough for the page? Thank you so much for your valuable time.

Daringsmith (talk) 02:57, 7 July 2022 (UTC)


 * @Daringsmith - Cool! The only one that would count towards notability is the Mid Day article. The others are just passing mention or primary sources affiliated with the subject's work. Also being on a panel doesn't count towards notability and the "Museum of Cryptoart" is not a notable museum at this point - at least not notable enough to where it's considered an acclaimed institution for notable artists to have their work held. I was unable to access citation #9, since a subscription is required. If you do decide to resubmit the article with additional citations, I will be deferring to other reviewers to look at it. Missvain (talk) 03:19, 7 July 2022 (UTC)


 * @Missvain - Thank you so much for your quick review and suggestions. I'll find all other resources, update them on the draft and resubmit. Daringsmith (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 03:53, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

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Uthhan Wiki Page
Hi, I have seen the comment expressed by you in declining the article. But most of these press links are from notable media houses in India and it's not promotional press releases as mentioned. The project is approved by the Department of Handicraft in India to uplift the underprivileged artisans. Since it's a social initiative feeding more than 50k plus artisans across India, it needs to be highlighted and because of the same purpose, it's been drafted. Please expedite. Gotcha1982 (talk) 10:52, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Chanel Rion vandalism
Hi. Just letting you know I extended the protection on that page to two weeks to coincide with the rangeblocks on the IP vandals. Daniel Case (talk) 04:03, 13 July 2022 (UTC)


 * @Daniel Case - Great, thank you! Nice to see you here!! Been a long time! Missvain (talk) 15:50, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

Are You Ready (Hannah Montana song)
I see you fully protected this redirect. Please change it to Hannah Montana Forever (soundtrack), as a result of the page move. StAnselm (talk) 22:15, 14 July 2022 (UTC)


 * ✅ Missvain (talk) 22:25, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

The Zvi Safra draft
Hello, I am the author of the Zvi Safra draft. Thank you for reviewing my article!

I would love to get a more specific explanation of your rejection in order to correct my submission and get it accepted.

Thank you! Oak9500 (talk) 09:04, 16 July 2022 (UTC)


 * User:Oak9500 - Every sentence needs a citation and footnote from a reliable secondary source. There are still uncited claims in this submission that are from primary sources or that are uncited. Also any promotional content needs to be removed (i.e. " including a selective interdisciplinary program for the College’s most talented students.") because this is an encyclopedia, not a promotional website. Also, the majority of sourcing is primary or written by Zvi Safra.
 * We need *significant* in-depth coverage (that is independent of the subject - meaning no purely promotional pieces, government websites, social media, press releases, paid coverage) in notable major media outlets or by notable publishers about Zavi Safra. Examples: magazine and newspaper reviews and features about Zavi Safra specifically; books or peer-reviewed white papers written ABOUT Zavi Safra; television and radio features ABOUT Zavi Safra.
 * You can find more at WP:NPROF.
 * If those are available, please improve this submission. If not, then it might not be the right time (WP:TOOSOON for Zavi Safra to have a Wikipedia article.
 * I hope you will consider improving existing Wikipedia content about other subjects of interest!
 * If you have any questions please ask them at WP:TEAHOUSE.
 * Thank you for contributing to Wikipedia! Missvain (talk) 15:11, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

Re: They're baackkkkkk
Indeed, User talk:216.174.85.45 already contains a note from about a glaring mistake made there, and the topic pattern in general sure seems like it's the same person. --Joy &#91;shallot&#93; (talk) 16:17, 17 July 2022 (UTC)


 * @Joy - I'm going to be bold and block them for evasion. Missvain (talk) 16:19, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Nono, they're not completely blocked and evading it through a new IP, rather, I had just blocked all of those IPs from main space but they're not restricted in Draft space. Now, you could argue that you don't want to be dealing with bad drafts, and block them from Draft space as well. I'm ambivalent about that. I don't recall this user ever having explained anything they did. Does this amount to a such breach of WP:Civility (failure to explain themselves, a perception of incivility) that we void WP:AGF? --Joy &#91;shallot&#93; (talk) 16:30, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Ok. If you don't want them blocked, then no problem. I don't like evasion when they're blocked for other behavior. I'm just ignoring their submissions... Missvain (talk) 16:31, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Does it count as block evasion when they're on a dynamic IP? I would assume they aren't intentionally evading the block, but I don't know if there's more to this that I'm unaware of. Personally I think this editor (or group of editors?) is in WP:CIR territory more than anything else. -- asilvering (talk) 04:19, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, it seems like it could just be a dynamic IP change. The question is, does the encyclopedia benefit more from letting them go on (largely ignoring any notion of collaborative editing), or from preventing them from making any kind of contributions (until they presumably appeal the block)? Since it's a large IP block, in case the block was extended, there'd also be further collateral damage (in case other people want to contribute anonymously from the same set of addresses). --Joy &#91;shallot&#93; (talk) 20:00, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

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