User talk:Misty.Berginger

Your submission at Articles for creation: Lord Christopher Shinneman Tolbert-Sarver (February 15)
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S0091 (talk) 19:59, 15 February 2023 (UTC)


 * My sources are cited at the end of the article per instructions. While the article may be short, the sources of information are archives, published books, etc., which prove everything stated in my article. As more information is found in library books and archives of the UK, more information will be added and the source cited. Instructions said I can cite in line or list my sources at the end of the article. I chose the latter and listed all sources of information at the bottom of the article and will continue to add sources as new information becomes available and is verified as accurate. Misty.Berginger (talk) 15:27, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Further, while notability is not inherited, Nobility is inherited and are two very different things when it comes to the Peerages, Aristocracy, and Noble Families of the United Kingdom. Misty.Berginger (talk) 15:31, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi Misty.Berginger, for biographies of living people in-line citations are required. Sources serve two purposes, verifiability and notability.  In order to meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines, secondary reliable sources with in-depth coverage about him are needed.  The sources provided (and much of the the content) appears to be largely about his lineage, which matters not from a notability perspective.  S0091 (talk) 16:17, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
 * How do I request an article to be written on Lord Christopher Shinneman Tolbert | Sarver using the references already listed in my current page? Misty.Berginger (talk) 16:33, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
 * There's Requested articles but to be honest articles are rarely written for subjects there. Everyone is a volunteer so write articles on what interests them.  You have resubmitted the draft so another reviewer will take a look.  I will say sources published in the 1800's are obviously not about him so not useful for establishing notability.  Again, you need sources about him.  S0091 (talk) 16:49, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
 * There currently are no active sources about HIM yet. He was just recently discovered in 2021. He is choosing to remain private. Which is why the article is so short and focuses more around his lineage and relation to the Royal Blood Line than it does him. Misty.Berginger (talk) 16:51, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
 * If no such sources exist, then he cannot meet the notability guidelines. S0091 (talk) 16:56, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
 * What do you suggest? Misty.Berginger (talk) 16:59, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
 * There is nothing you can do (read what I linked above). A Wikipedia article about him is not possible, at least not at this time. S0091 (talk) 17:02, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
 * That is not very fair for him seeing as how there are MANY old and new credible resources available that prove his lineage and Title.  Misty.Berginger (talk) 17:08, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
 * If that is the case, delete the article and I will submit elsewhere. Misty.Berginger (talk) 17:09, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
 * As I stated before as per Wikipedia's notability guidelines, his lineage does not matter. You can request the draft be deleted by placing  at top of the draft.  S0091 (talk) 17:12, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Lineage and relation to the Royal Blood Line DOES matter and should be known. Again, I will find somewhere else to publish the article. Wikipedia has never been reliable anyways. As Administrative Assistant to many members of the Royal Family, I have seen Wikipedia Articles and Edits that are completely untrue, yet, they were published. Misty.Berginger (talk) 17:16, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes, Wikipedia explicitly states it is not a reliable source. Also, it only as good as the sources available so if reliable sources publish false information, that will be reflected here (see Verifiability not truth) but if you do notice something blatantly false and not supported by a reliable source, do report it.  If it is about a living person, you can do so at the Biographies of living people noticeboard. S0091 (talk) 17:31, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
 * You might find Otto Middleton (or why newspapers are dubious sources) interesting. S0091 (talk) 17:36, 26 February 2023 (UTC)