User talk:Misza13/Archives/2006/06

Welcome to VandalProof!
Thank you for your interest in VandalProof, Misza13! You have now been added to the list of authorized users, so if you haven't already, simply download and install VandalProof from our main page. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me or any other moderator, or you can post a message on the discussion page. You must really like making me approve you for things. First AWB and now this I can't take it!!!! ;-) Happy editing. Prodego  talk  17:23, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Garh! I wanted to approve Misza! -- Xyra  e  l  T 19:24, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Hehe, actually Prodego approved me so quickly that for a moment thought "is he a bot or what?" Really: I signed up, went back to my watchlist and 2x"Misza13 approved" were already there. :) Misza 13 T C 19:28, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I was at a significant disadvantage, being out bell ringing. Humph. -- Xyra  e  l  T 20:21, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Your polish userpage
May I suggest you moving your english level from 3 to 4? Or at least 3.5, if you would like to be modest. Your english is impressive, and flawless as far as I can tell ;).-- The ikiroid  22:43, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
 * "Near-native", huh? I'm flattered. :) I had my first contact with the language at the age of six and have been learning it ever since. But in fact, it's not that brilliant as it seems. The impression you get is created by a simple trick: I use Simple English (or, what I call it, "Internet English") - no complicated grammar structures, "difficult" words and such. If I started using them, I would get lost quickly and started making hideous mistakes. But thanks anyway. Oh, and there is no user en-3.5. ;-) Misza 13 T C 09:43, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Hmm...it doesn't seem like simple english to me, you write better than most middle-class midwestern Americans that I know. I've heard that if you begin learning a language before the teenage years it's easier to master, which may explain it. So what do you try to avoid writing? Passive voice? I'd be interested to know, I'm trying to learn French and Mandarin chinese, and I think passive voice is the hardest thing about a language.-- The ikiroid  14:56, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Passive voice is not avoided by me - it's only found sounding very "yodish" at times by me, no? ;-p I also didn't find it especially difficult, but then again, maybe it's a matter of thinking patterns and predispositions, which vary from man to man. And yes, learning "from the cradle" does help a lot - if not the very poor vocabulary, I could consider myself bilingual (actually I even studied in a "bilingual" class in the high school). With languages learned later in life (like german, russian or french), I have much more problems. The situation is on the other hand completely different when it comes to new programming languages, which I usually learn like blitz. Misza 13 T C 15:25, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Ah, so I see. It's always good to hear the viewpoint of another person learning language. Thanks ;).-- The ikiroid  15:48, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

^demon's sig
Could you explain that business? That will print his name, yes, but the thing we're getting at is making the date slightly smaller. Who's misunderstanding who here? xD Thanks! -- Xyra  e  l  T 12:31, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
 * The thing is, that   puts the content of the "Nickname" field in Special:Preferences.  ~  puts that and the date (unformatted). So, if you put    there and the template will contain the date trick (like ^demon's does), then it's enough to sign with 3 tildes, as 4 tildes would put that and the date (I feel like repeating myself :-P), which would result in two dates being written (one from the template and one from the fourth tilde). Oh my! That was supposed to be an explanation, but reading this, I'm not sure I'd fully understand it... Misza 13  T C 13:50, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I get what you mean now, and I've given it a shot. However, templates never work in raw signatures, or so I've discovered. It doesn't work :( Any other ideas? Thanks for trying! -- Xyra  e  l  T 12:47, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Okay, so it does! Wow! However, I can't use this with VandalProof and the like because these automatically use which stops me as it'll display the date twice, unfortunately. -- Xyra  e  l  T 12:50, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I've been wondering that for awhile now. I meant to log it with Daniel to see if he could work a way into the next release for custom sigs, but I just hadn't gotten around to it and I did. That's the only major issue I have with using VP right now. ^ demon  [yell at me][ubx_war_sux] /19:21, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I'll link these pages together. -- Xyra  e  l  T 19:33, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Hole in the wall
Hello. I noticed that you recently welcomed User:Hole in the wall to Esperanza. However, please note that that user's account was only created on June 3 and that he/she only has about 47 edits in all as of 00:20, 5 June 2006 (UTC). That does not meet the requirements for membership, so be sure to check the users before welcoming them. Thanks. G . H  e  00:20, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
 * In short: take a look at this edit and 2 subsequent ones, plus the top of the Wikipedia talk:Esperanza/Members post. I trusted Joanne's judgement. Cheers! Misza 13 T C 12:05, 5 June 2006 (UTC)


 * -.- Must be overworking... (See my talk header. Why am I even online?) I swear I saw that comment in the edit history before I wrote the previous message, yet somehow missed that... I'm really sorry about that. Now I'm gonna punish myself by doing more work! :P G . H  e  02:57, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

It's early July, now
Unless someone else has got there first, would you accept a nomination for adminship from me? You have consistently shown yourself to be trustworthy and a worthwhile member of this project and I see no reason why it wouldn't succeed. You may prefer someone else to nominate you; if this is the case I won't be offended - just let me know :) -- Xyra  e  l  T 11:30, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Sincere apologies - I'm getting too enthusiastic about the presence of the end of the school year and getting month names mixed up. :S -- Xyra  e  l  T 11:32, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah, for me it is exactly one more month of tortures to go - hence the estimated July. Not that I'm sure I'll have more time there... And yes, I'd prefer being nominated by an admin. So, if you still have chance, since (one week of RfA) < (one month). ;-) But thanks anyway. :-) Misza 13 T C 12:14, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

RE: IRC bot
I'm re-enabling him then - thanks for keeping me informed. Good luck with getting Bob back, and see you on the channel. -- Xyra  e  l  T 17:33, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

hehe.
Naughty naughty :) — Natha  n  (talk) 19:05, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I almost thought you wouldn't actually check why was it commented out. ;-P Misza 13 T C 19:07, 6 June 2006 (UTC)


 * God, I thought that was real for a second.. I was thinking: Darn, there went my clean block log. :p Hmm... I didn't know evil was trademarked. Thanks for the message Cheers! The King   of Kings  21:20, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

WP:Trusted Users MfD
Hi,

As you should know, only administrators may close XfDs, unless the decision is completely without controversy (ie. unanimous, or very close to that.) You closed this MfD prematurely. In my judgment, it is not without some controversy, as there are several outright delete votes. I have reopened the discussion. Please refrain from closing controversial XfDs until you gain adminship. Best wishes, Xoloz 00:05, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, for me it looked like almost all votes were either keep with rejected or delete, which I believe should mean "reject" in the case of proposals as well. Additionally, Xaosflux already tagged it as such, so I considered my closing more of a janitorial work than an actual decision (yeah, I admit, I forgot to take the MfD tag down along). But if you say so, I won't touch XfDs again. Misza 13 T C 07:55, 7 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I didn't mean to sound too harsh! :) (I have a very nasty cold, and may be snappier than I think I am.) I'm sure you'll be an admin soon enough -- it's just that, that particular discussion had too many delete votes to be closed early by anybody (IMO), much less a non-admin.  Best wishes, Xoloz 17:36, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

IRC linking
Sorry for making a mistake on Bob's page. Under mIRC, I'm told (I don't use it) that without a hash it adds one, so for a double hash you use two. -- Xyra  e  l  T 12:01, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Re: Wdefcon
Thanks the for update. They've been 'd. --ZsinjTalk  13:34, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Re:Them userboxen
Sorry your policy didn't fall through; if you haven't already, check out WP:DEUTSCH.-- The ikiroid </tt> 16:38, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
 * And I'm not sorry. :) I feel it might have kinda inspired the other proposals (like WP:MACK). And if it changed at least one editor's view on the userboxes, then it was worth the trouble. Anyway, the implementation of WP:DEUTSCH is the main reason I have decided to close the discussion. Misza 13 T C 16:50, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Ah, OK. Just making sure.--<tt><font style="background:green" color="white"> The ikiroid </tt> 18:07, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
 * P.S. I hope your exams go well.--<tt><font style="background:green" color="white"> The ikiroid </tt> 18:09, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
 * So far, so good. Thanks! Misza 13 T C 18:22, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks.
Thanks for reverting Cyde's reversion. I'm starting to wonder if he's trying to make some attempt at civility by reverting what he thinks is vandalism. — Natha  n  ( talk ) 18:39, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. Let's just say that some people have an incompatible sense of humo(u)r. Misza 13 T C 19:29, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
 * /me deletes Cyde. DELETE DELETE DELETE. *runs off* — Natha  n  ( talk ) 19:50, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
 * /me chases Nathan with a large trout for repeatedly pinging his talk page. Misza 13 T C 19:53, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
 * zOMG PONG! — Natha  n  ( talk ) 19:57, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Bot code?
Hello, Misza13. What code does your bot run on? May I know where to download the program?-- 陈 鼎  翔    贡献   和 CCD  Chat with Tdxiang on IRC! 09:52, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Hi. I have written him in Perl. Entirely from scratch, i.e. from the sockets through the IRC protocol up to the entertainment functions. It's not available for download yet, but when the codebase becomes stable and I clean the code up, I'll release it. If you're still interested, I could probably send it to you via e-mail or something (once I finally tag the files with proper licenses). Misza 13 T C 16:39, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Archiving bot
Sweetness! :) :) :)

Is this service open to the public yet? -- Where is Where? 21:05, 14 June 2006 (UTC)


 * It stiil needs some ironing, like adding config files (with any custom archiving schemes possible). I also have to do something with this - the bot leaves some unnecessary newlines on the talk - apparently, blanking a section (the bot does &action=edit&section=1 and determines if a section qualifies for archive) does not wipe it out entirely - a newline is still left. It should be ready soon tho - interested? :-D Misza 13 T C 09:37, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

A bit of a problem with your status-switcher script
I seem to have run into a dead end with your status-switcher script. I copied the script exactly as shown here into my monobook.js file. I borrowed the design of User:Gurch's Status and StatusTemplate files, modifying Status to link to my StatusTemplate. However, when I click on "in," "busy," and "out," I always get saved in my Status template. I believe I already have the Add LI link script installed because I installed User:Voice_of_All's non-admin Recent changes script (includes a UTC clock, which is essentially an added link).

I would appreciate any help you could give. &mdash; Super-Magician (talk &bull; contribs &bull; count ) &#x2605; 19:16, 15 June 2006 (UTC)


 * That's a weird error. Two questions that can lead me to solution:
 * What's the browser you're using?
 * What's the exact URL the "in" (for example) button leads to?
 * Is the URL the same as what appears in the adress bar moments before the status gets saved.
 * Yes, I know the last question looks silly, but I'm investigating all kinds of possibilities (like the other included scripts modifying the address for some reason). Misza 13 T C 19:48, 15 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the quick response.


 * Internet Explorer 6 (SP1) on Windows 2000 (SP4) (I can try it using IE 6 on a Windows XP SP2 system, but I doubt it would make any difference)
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Super-Magician/Status&action=edit&newstatus=in
 * Yes.


 * By asking me #1, could you be hinting that I must use Mozilla Firefox? And, by the way, that was three questions.


 * &mdash; Super-Magician (talk &bull; contribs &bull; count ) &#x2605; 20:23, 15 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Okay, so now I know where in the code the problem is located, but still not sure why it doesn't work. I did a minor update to User:Misza13/Scripts/Status switcher. Reinstall/copy again (remember WP:CACHE) and try again - does same thing but in a different way. Yeah, it was 2 questions when I started writing it, but thought of the 3rd later. And yes, using Firefox is surely a good idea. :-D Misza 13 T C 20:51, 15 June 2006 (UTC)


 * All right, after that update, it works! Yes!!  Thanks so much!! :D  &mdash; Super-Magician (talk &bull; contribs &bull; count ) &#x2605; 21:02, 15 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Good to see that. Way to go, me! World saved again! Ehem... Note to self: stupid IE probably doesn't handle the .split method. Regular expressions work fine. Misza 13 T C 21:08, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

more care when reverting, please
I was aware that that was wrong because I had only just fixed that error myself (in between the vandalism) but a quick revert with that in it was not a problem as that text was hidden you then nipped in before me to fix the last bit. Jooler 12:11, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Regarding the stub sorting
WOW!!! You are a super coder :D. Yeah; adding stubs manually probably isn't such a good idea. What could be done, however, is writing a perl script to fetch the stubs page, parse it, write the script, and dump it (using your perl framework) to User:Misza13/ss.js. This page can then be included in monobook.js. Also, for this to fit the screen, maybe the menu should start somewhere else further to the left (like in the toolbox?). Just suggestions, of course. -- Where is Where? 14:18, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Damn n00bs.
I deleted the section you just commented in (this one) and just gave the newbie involved a stern talking to about TYPING LIKE THIS and netiquette. Hopefully, the do's and don'ts of what to do and what not to do will actually sink in. — Natha  n  ( talk ) 00:06, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Status changer
Hi. I was putting up your status changer, but I can't seem to get it to work! I copied the following code: '''<div style="border: 1px solid black; background: white; float: right; position: relative; top: -30px; padding: 5px">Example's status: ''' onto this page, and I placed onto this page. I installed Add LI link onto my monobook.js as well as the function you provided, but the 'in' 'busy' and 'out' functions don't appear. Any idea why? &Oslash;&#345; &ecirc;  &#333;&#351; <sup style="color:#000000;">Go Italia!  19:09, 18 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Weird. I have copied your monobook to mine and it works fine (i.e. they show up). Did you purge the cache of your browser? Or maybe you didn't notice them? They should be to the left of the "logout" button. Misza 13 T C 19:29, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

da Vinci Barnstar
Check this out, da Vinci Barnstar. --evrik 15:48, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

MiszaBot a bit strange
Dropped a note on MiszaBot's talk page; you might want to stop it and take a look. ~ PseudoSudo 16:38, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Logged out. ~ PseudoSudo 17:08, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Ah, that was ten minutes ago; nevermind. ~ PseudoSudo 17:09, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, the "ARRAY" thingy was obviously my fault, as I made errors in the configuration file. The logged out bug is more of a mystery - I have no idea why it happened. The bogon radiation is my only explanation so far. Thanks anyway! Misza 13 T C 17:13, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

217.206.224.221
Saw you're reverting 217.206.224.221 on Tattoo, Thanks I missed one. I've given him a block warning if continues I'll WP:AIV Cheers Khukri ( talk  .  contribs ) 11:41, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thanks for the quick revert on my userpage! -- Ferkelparade &pi; 14:28, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Awesome.
I was patrolling recent changes and kept seeing "Magdalen College School, Oxford" on the list, and had to see what that was all about. I don't know why someone's vandalizing that page, but you're doing very well at thwarting it. Just thought I'd stop by and say "good job", because fighting vandalism shouldn't go unrecognized. —Helfaery 11:37, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

User:F 22
Can you help me with my linier and quordinate geometry???? i hate maths it should be blown up! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by F 22 (talk • contribs).
 * I probably could. But you should really try to do your homework on your own! Plus, you really shouldn't be saying "i hate maths it should be blown up" to a matematician. ;-) Misza 13 T C 12:00, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

my oops on C-119 Flying Boxcar
Thanks for catching my error. Firefox seems to be getting worse about that bug. --rogerd 16:37, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I know. I'm regularly reverting such Google Toolbar blankings and don't even bother with warnings. This is seems a new RC patroller's plague. Hope they fix it quick. Misza 13 T C 17:18, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, I de-installed the Google Toolbar for now. I will keep following this bug and not re-install it until it is fixed.   But I saw that it is not certain that the toolbar is the cuprit. --rogerd 00:23, 30 June 2006 (UTC)