User talk:Misza13/Archives/2009/06

MiszaBot VIII?
There's probably a really simple explaination to all of this... so, yeah, but I was browsing Category:Wikipedia archive bots and discovered. I wasn't aware that there was a MiszaBot VIII (it's not mentioned anywhere), and the user was editing without a flag or approval. Seeing as you've had imposters in the past ( and ), I'm concerned that this may be one of them. Am I right? The Earwig (Talk &#124; Editor review) 00:21, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
 * You are correct, it's an impostor. I do not have bots beyond number 3. Миша 13 05:06, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
 * *creates MiszaBot IX* Gurch (talk) 16:08, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

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Transport in India
I noticed that MiszaBot I, archived a bit of the talk page of Transport in India, I want to know how, as I have no recollection of it being added to the archive list. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 14:06, 5 June 2009 (UTC) Edit, I just noticed that the template was added to the top of the page, [which I rarely edit, I only edit sections].. Thanks nyway.. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 14:09, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

MiszaBot in Portuguese Wikipedia
Hello Misza! I'm here to tell you about import your bot to Portuguese Wikipedia. What do you think about it? There, we have a bot that do discussion's archive, but it do not in operation (inative). Vitorbraziledit (talk) 20:58, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but due to lack of free time I cannot maintain another instance of the bot at this point. Sometime in the future I might set up some truly global solution, but not yet. Миша 13 08:53, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Talk: Fuel TV
For some reason Talk: Fuel TV hasn't been archived properly. All of the posts on it are over 6 weeks old and its set to 4 weeks. Please have a look at it. Thanks. TomCat4680 (talk) 06:09, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

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Talkback
I'm apparently having trouble with your bot. Most of the information is contained in the link. I've also put up a message at the bot notice board. I dream of horses (talk) 16:57, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * This is resolved, the }} template close was on the maxarchive line. –xenotalk 17:08, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Archiving bug?
Hi; I appreciate the good work MiszaBot is doing in archiving discussion pages. However, I have noticed that sometimes sections (threads) that should be archived after a particular period has elapsed are not. At least some of these have a section title that is wikilinked, and I am wondering whether such a section is automatically ignored when archiving takes place. A current example is is the first section (Article alerts) at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Birds. Thanks for any elucidation. Maias (talk) 10:04, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * "08:53, 15 March, 2009 (UTC)" &larr; I bet it's the extra comma. It may be time to modify archive.py .... --MZMcBride (talk) 16:37, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Or, people could use standard timestamps. *eyeroll* Anyway, I'm not investing any more time in archivebot.py - I'm writing an all-new framework instead and the archiver will be migrated to the new platform. Миша 13 08:56, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
 * You're not worried about LiquidThreads? Werdna said recently it's his next assigned project.... --MZMcBride (talk) 20:46, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
 * If implementation will follow the footsteps of CentralAuth, AbuseFilter or FlaggedRevs then no - we will need archiver bots for at least another year or so. Regardless, I'd love to see a sane and consistent robot framework at work. I do, however, fully support changing this retarded way of discussing using talkpages. Миша 13 05:15, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Archive bug
MiszaBot II deleted 10 threads w/o archiving at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Elements with the comment "Archiving 10 thread(s) (older than 24h) to /dev/null." As I recall, an archive for that page should not occur until a thread is 60 days w/o any comment. But in this case the bot just deleted those threads. Please fix. --mav (talk) 02:01, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
 * User:MiszaBot/Archive FAQ reason 1. Миша 13 09:23, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

White Latin American
The bot is not working on this talk page????--Wikiscribe (talk) 20:37, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

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MiszaBot III, why hath you fosaken me??? (cron died?)
I think the cron tab must have died or something; it didn't run yesterday and doesn't appear to have started running today either. –xenotalk 14:23, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Misza does shut it down quite often when he's away (check the history). I dare say it'll be back soon enough. – iride  scent  19:50, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah, I didn't realize Misza was away. cheers, –xeno<sup style="color:black; font-family:verdana;">talk 19:52, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Not really away as much as not editing. I never normally disable the bot. If it has downtimes it's due to the Toolserver being down (and it had a downtime scheduled recently). However, this time it seems like the template transclusion enumerator in pywikipedia finally broke beyond repair (the bot enters an infinite loop of some sort). Миша 13 20:16, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Is there any hope, Doctor? –<b style="font-family:verdana; color:black;">xeno</b><sup style="color:black; font-family:verdana;">talk 21:28, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I see MBIII is back up and running. cheers, –<b style="font-family:verdana; color:black;">xeno</b><sup style="color:black; font-family:verdana;">talk 21:44, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * After essentially transplanting a vital organ, yeah. ;) Миша 13 11:20, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Because Misza rocks ;) Ariel  ♥  Gold  11:32, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

MiszaBot on VPT
Hasn't run since 4 June on WP:VPT; there are numerous threads that meet the 4day threshold. Any ideas? <b style="color:forestgreen;">Happy</b>‑<b style="color:darkorange;">melon</b> 09:15, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
 * My best guess (without looking into logs) would be a spam link somewhere, which prevents the bot from adding that threads to an archive page (can't find it though). Incidentally, it's been discussed on that very page. Миша 13 09:38, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmm, good idea. I can save the whole pump to a sandbox, with a non-admin account, though; wouldn't that trigger the blacklist in the same way? <b style="color:forestgreen;">Happy</b>‑<b style="color:darkorange;">melon</b> 10:10, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Well spotted! Thanks for the fix. <b style="color:forestgreen;">Happy</b>‑<b style="color:darkorange;">melon</b> 11:41, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

on French Wikipedia ?
Hello, is-it possible for to create the same bot on French Wikipedia ? I want the news from Wikinews for my portal and I think that many portal will be interested by your "Updating from Wikinews". If you search a French name for your bot, Importateur Wikinews Bot is good, in my humble opinion. Thank you, --Sniff (talk) 17:02, 19 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I could set this up, but I'd prefer to use the global account, i.e. fr:User:Wikinews Importer Bot on frwiki. My French sucks, so I would need someone to translate the English userpage (just put it on the bot's French userpage).
 * Also, is there some bot approval process akin to WP:BRFA on frwp that I need to go through with this? Миша 13 10:35, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you, I will translate for you your user page ^^.
 * You can ask the bot flag after the bot will make some edits. At the beggining, the bot won't make many edits, but after... You need it for that ^^ Thank you, Sniff (talk) 12:17, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

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Edit links in archives
I was wondering why Administrators' noticeboard/Geopolitical ethnic and religious conflicts/Archive 1 has edit links in the sections when other archives (like Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games/Archive 1) do not. Did I miss something?

Also, does anyone think it would be a good idea to have the archive bot remove archive templates (such as archivetop and archivebottom, as I did here) while archiving? Is there a reason to keep them on conversations that are clearly already in an archive? ▫  Johnny Mr Nin ja  08:14, 21 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Probably because it doesn't have the __NOEDITLINKS__ (or something similar) magic word on it - in your example, I think it is trancluded through atnhead.
 * It probably could do that, but I don't have time to code it. Миша 13 10:16, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Turns out none of the ANs had it, so I added it to Template:Administrators' noticeboard navbox all. Good call. ▫  Johnny Mr Nin ja  19:38, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

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Archiving Media copyright questions
MiszaBot II has not archived Media copyright questions since 1 June. What's wrong? —teb728 t c 08:02, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
 * It is stranger than I thought: Sections are being added to the archive but not being removed from the forum. And as a result sections are added to the archive multiple times. —teb728 t c 08:09, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

/dev/null
Miszabot did an odd thing to Talk:.45 ACP:
 * Archiving 11 thread(s) (older than 24h) to /dev/null.

I'm wondering if the initial "." caused it. —WWoods (talk) 06:30, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Nope. It did the same thing to Talk:The Great Escape (film), Talk:M1911 pistol, Talk:M4 carbine.
 * —WWoods (talk) 06:49, 25 June 2009 (UTC)


 * It's a bug in his bot that he refuses to fix. --NE2 06:38, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Huh. Which pages are affected? Is there a solution, other than not using Miszabot on those pages?
 * —WWoods (talk) 06:49, 25 June 2009 (UTC)


 * In this case all those where you added the template. It's related to the bug NE2 mentions - due to the nature of the configuration parser each line must start with a pipe character ("|") - you added an extra leading space on each line. Миша 13 09:41, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

BOT Archive Of Talk:George Armstrong Custer
Whatever the bot is intending to do, it isn't doing it correctly. Long-dead entries are being preserved on the Talk page while more recent, extensive, and relevant discussions are being archived without a link to them. In cases of controversial topics like Custer, the same issues tend to crop up over and over again, and a selective archiving of irrelevant or inactive threads is preferable to the wholesale archiving of every discussion - in addition to which, as noted, the bot is malfunctioning. Please remove this bot and its protected status from this page and allow editors to archive it selectively. Sensei48 (talk) 05:03, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
 * The extremely ancient threads are not archived because they are using an old (and therefore not recognized) timestamp format. You'll have to archive it manually.
 * Now to your second point. I didn't set up archiving on that page. My bot is a self-service - you add the template, it starts archiving - you remove it, it stops. Suit yourself. The service comes with a disclaimer that people should establish consensus before archiving public forums. Regards, Миша 13 10:51, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

fr:User:Wikinews Importer Bot
Hello, I made a little pub for your bot here. Please don't forget update news on French Wikipedia, in few weeks, many portals will have News from Wikinews. For this moment, ~4 portals wait for updates. Thank you very much, --Sniff (talk) 19:56, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I had some bumps adjusting to the specifics of the French language, but it should be going automatically now. Миша 13 21:47, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Ho! Ok, sorry But, can you add the year, like " 27 juin 2009 : Entrée gratuite aux sites de Parcs Canada" ? And if possible, with the wiki-syntax  27  ? Thanks, --Sniff (talk) 21:56, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Done. Миша 13 22:32, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Archiving Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football
Hi, MiszaBotII hasn't archived Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football since 18 June. I can't see any obvious reason why it shouldn't have. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 11:22, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games also hasn't been archived. I think it may be a general Bot problem. It hasn't archived any Wikipedia:Talk pages since 18 June . - X201 (talk) 11:49, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

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Interesting archival case
You might be interested in this diff from MiszaBotIII, where it grabbed a level-2 header encased in nowiki tags rather than the actual level-2 header from the convo. Since it left the beginning nowiki, it kinda messed up formatting on the page following it. Yeah, poor formatting choice on the part of the guy who posted it, but just thought I'd let you know about this case on the possibility that it mattered. &mdash;/M endaliv /2¢/Δ's/ 22:12, 30 June 2009 (UTC)