User talk:Misza13/Archives/2011/06

MiszaBot III
MiszaBot III hasn't archived sections on my talk page over 15 days old. User:Crazymonkey1123 public/Suggestions from SuggestBot Is supposed to archive every three days but has not. Could you help me fix the problem? Thanks! Crazymonkey1123 (Jacob) T or M/Sign mine 16:19, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
 * What's the problem? Crazymonkey1123 (Jacob) T or M/Sign mine 05:05, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Miszabot works on talk pages. The subpage that you have is off of your public account's main userpage and not the talk page. Try moving it to User talk:Crazymonkey1123 public/Suggestions from SuggestBot and let's see if that fixes it. ⋙–Berean–Hunter—►  ((⊕)) 15:48, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
 * What's the problem with my main talk page though? Crazymonkey1123 (Jacob) T or M/Sign mine 15:57, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Hello? Crazymonkey1123 (Jacob) T or M/Sign mine 03:57, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I've moved the code to the top of the page per the instructions (sometimes it doesn't see the config when there is a bunch of stuff preceding it). Let's see if that works... ⋙–Berean–Hunter—►  ((⊕)) 22:04, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Note:The bots template was screwing things up. After it was removed, Miszabot worked again. <b style="color:#00C">⋙–Ber</b><b style="color:#66f">ean–Hun</b><b style="color:#00C">ter—►</b>  (<b style="color:#00C">(⊕)</b>) 05:05, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Archiving unexpired block notices
here, the bot archived the block notice for an active block. Is it possible to get it to check for and skip over either 1) active block notices, or 2) all block notices? Jclemens (talk) 19:46, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
 * 2) is undesirable...block notices should be archivable. The real problem (if it's a problem) is that the user is archiving everything in 1 day. If they miss the notice, this is their fault. Since this seems to be an exception and irregular, I would say it isn't worth the coding time. My 2 cents. <b style="color:#00C">⋙–Ber</b><b style="color:#66f">ean–Hun</b><b style="color:#00C">ter—►</b>  (<b style="color:#00C">(⊕)</b>) 03:02, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Why are you archiving my Talk page
I just noticed this bot has archived material from my Talk page twice and there is no record left on my Talk page to show where the correspondance has been placed. Would you please explain to me why this has been done and how people can access these archives? Sincerely, John Hill (talk) 03:04, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Answered on User talk:John Hill. —WWoods (talk) 07:09, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

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Help!
I tried using MiszaBot to archive Talk:Tamil Eelam but have so far been unsuccessful. I have tried changing the parameters a couple of times but that didn't work. What am I doing wrong?-- obi2canibe talk contr 17:24, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
 * You had the archive & archiveheader parameters reversed. I've set the archive up...it should work now. <b style="color:#00C">⋙–Ber</b><b style="color:#66f">ean–Hun</b><b style="color:#00C">ter—►</b>  (<b style="color:#00C">(⊕)</b>) 22:36, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you, it's worked.-- obi2canibe talk contr 17:17, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Bot stopped archiving my talk page?
A couple of years ago I set up automatic archiving on my talk page. Worked without a problem. Took a break from Wikipedia for about a year and a half. I became active again last month. I just realized the other day that MiszaBot is no longer archiving my talk page. Can someone take a look and let me know what's changed? I haven't changed the settings since it used to work. Thanks! Singularity42 (talk) 13:15, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Default "minthreadstoarchive" is 2, and there is only one thread eligible to be archived at the moment. You can add "minthreadstoarchive=1" or wait until another becomes eligible for archival. – xeno <sup style="color:black;">talk 13:51, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Bot not working
I set up the automatic archiving on my talk page yesterday. But till now no archiving was done. -- Thalapathi  (Ping Back)  14:44, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
 * It needed a value for the <tt>counter</tt>. I set it to 1. —WWoods (talk) 16:19, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I have even threads older than a year will all those be archived in one cycle. -- Thalapathi  (Ping Back)  02:20, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
 * It's been two days since the setup but till now no archiving was done. -- Thalapathi  (Ping Back)  12:33, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Wwoods fixed this by assigning a non-null value for minthreadsleft here. <b style="color:#00C">⋙–Ber</b><b style="color:#66f">ean–Hun</b><b style="color:#00C">ter—►</b>  (<b style="color:#00C">(⊕)</b>) 01:15, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Archiving at IPA for English
Over at Wikipedia talk:IPA for English Miszabot has been adding archived discussions to the wrong archive subpages. I believe this is because the first two archives are in Help space rather than Wikipedia space, which threw the bot out of whack. I cleaned up after it recently, but it is still putting conversations in the wrong archive page. Is there a way to fix this? Should I just adjust the archives to be a certain length/size to push Miszabot to archive in the right place? — Æµ§œš¹ <span title="Representation in the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)" class="IPA"> [aɪm ˈfɹ̠ˤʷɛ̃ɾ̃ˡi] 14:25, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I changed the <tt>counter</tt> so henceforth it should move sections into Archive 10.
 * —WWoods (talk) 16:38, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Ahh, thank you. — Æµ§œš¹ <span title="Representation in the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)" class="IPA"> [aɪm ˈfɹ̠ˤʷɛ̃ɾ̃ˡi]  18:03, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

User:Keyan20
Hi Misza13. I need your help in archiving my talk page. I would appreciate your time to do that for me & give you all access to archive my talk page. Thanks..!!! Cheers. Have a nice day.. Ungal Vettu Pillai (talk) 19:13, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
 * The instructions are here. I don't see where you have tried to set it up. <b style="color:#00C">⋙–Ber</b><b style="color:#66f">ean–Hun</b><b style="color:#00C">ter—►</b>  (<b style="color:#00C">(⊕)</b>) 01:36, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

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Bot double archiving at An/I
I was checking out an archived discussion at An/I and noticed that my section was on the page twice, then upon closer examination, noticed that it was sandwiched between two other sections that were also duplicated. When I checked the edit history, I noticed that the bot had double stamped the post within a minute of itself, showing no time difference, and did so again later in the same archive, with only a minute's difference between the duplicate entries. I didn't do an exhaustive search, but noticed it happened again with a few of the other archives, but not in the most recent archives. I wasn't aware if this problem had yet been brought to your attention, or if the bot just started behaving better recently, so I thought I'd mention it, and ask while I was at it if you thought anyone would object if I took the time to go through said archives and remove the redundant duplicate sections I find for efficiency's sake (I have to admit to being bold and removing them already from my own relevant archive, linked above)? KnownAlias X   21:13, 13 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Confirmed that this appears to be a problem for Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive687 from April but does not appear to have persisted to the next archive. Anyone know what may have happened? <b style="color:#00C">⋙–Ber</b><b style="color:#66f">ean–Hun</b><b style="color:#00C">ter—►</b>  (<b style="color:#00C">(⊕)</b>) 01:49, 14 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Like I said, I didn't tear up the carpet to find more (yet), but it did occur again on Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive690 (the first two entries above the manual entry).  KnownAlias  X   01:54, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Okay, I only just started taking a closer look at it, (BTW, it did persist to the next archive Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive688, but not to 689) and the funny thing is, the offending double stamp seems to happen at exactly the same hour every time, 35-37 minutes past the hour. I'm going to keep looking for them, and I'll let you know if anything changes with that pattern, though so far the last incident seems to be 10 days ago in Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive701.  KnownAlias  X   11:54, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
 * As of now, I've culled the archives for An/I from 621 to 704. Incidents occurred in 621, 636, 648-651, 658-659, 668, 674-677, 680, 682, 685-688, 690, 693-694, 696-701 and 704 (some incidences are overlaps from one archive to the next as the old is deemed full).  The earliest incident I have accounted so far was on June 26, 2010, and it took almost three months for a repeat, but there have been 33 incidences so far in that last year.  It hasn't expanded to the Administrators, 3RR, Arbitration enforcement or Community sanction archives from what I've seen.  So the errors only seem to occur on the An/I archives, and only at 2:35 am or 2:36-2:37 am EDT (1:35 am or 1:36-1:37 am EST), with only one exception taking 5 minutes to post the duplicate between 1:36 am and 1:41 am EST on February 23 (archive #674).   KnownAlias  X   15:10, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't know why it is doing that. Maybe Xeno or Wwoods can figure this out. <b style="color:#00C">⋙–Ber</b><b style="color:#66f">ean–Hun</b><b style="color:#00C">ter—►</b>  (<b style="color:#00C">(⊕)</b>) 17:06, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

hello,i m....
hello i am new in Wikipedia and i dont know to use it....please help me.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Reyselreynosa (talk • contribs) 21:37, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Sporadically working
I've had this bot set up on my homepage for a long time, and I find that it's only sporadically working. Sometimes I'll note that it properly archives things, but other times it'll leave things sitting there forever. Things which have a time stamp, and a header, and are no different from anything else. On the latest failed archive, we have something 9 days old, time stampd, with a header, the archive is not full (max 50, currently at 12), the counter is properly set to 11 my current archive number, and it's set to archive after 7 days. the code hasn't been changed since the last time it was working. The last time it managed to archive something off my user page was in April, on June 4, I had to manually archive something that was nearly a month old , and on June 10th, something that was 11 days old , and again today, 9 days old. From the last time Misza actually archived until now, a diff shows no changes to the code.--Crossmr (talk) 00:06, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
 * By default, the bot uses a minimum-threads-to-archive parameter (minthreadstoarchive = 2) when none is listed as in your case. By adding minthreadstoarchive = 1, it will now archive a single thread. <b style="color:#00C">⋙–Ber</b><b style="color:#66f">ean–Hun</b><b style="color:#00C">ter—►</b>  (<b style="color:#00C">(⊕)</b>) 00:17, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah, thanks, I was unaware of that one. I thought I'd had it all set.--Crossmr (talk) 11:56, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

problem with archiving of a recent time stamp
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Verifiability&diff=432314736&oldid=432289500 is the diff in which the bot removed a discussion. Yet I added a new time stamp five hours earlier here. Looks like a bug, but meanwhile, can you restore the archived text to the discussion page? Thanks, Unscintillating (talk) 22:54, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
 * That is not a bug. You added a second timestamp beyond the original and the bot correctly ignored yours. More to the point, you should not be trying to keep a thread on a community talk page from being archived by that method when no one has posted to it in the prescribed period. <b style="color:#00C">⋙–Ber</b><b style="color:#66f">ean–Hun</b><b style="color:#00C">ter—►</b>  (<b style="color:#00C">(⊕)</b>) 00:46, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Please show me the policy that says that editors should not make comments that consist only of a time stamp, for the purpose of preventing a bot from archiving an on-going vote. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Unscintillating (talk • contribs)


 * It isn't an ongoing !vote if others aren't actively engaging in it and they weren't. As it is a community board, and it was time to archive...it went. Trying to maintain it on that board to force your viewpoint without anymore constructive input may be considered disruptive in some cases to which I would point to the policy Gaming the system. In any case, there is no problem which needs to be addressed here. <b style="color:#00C">⋙–Ber</b><b style="color:#66f">ean–Hun</b><b style="color:#00C">ter—►</b>  (<b style="color:#00C">(⊕)</b>) 01:31, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Wow, I don't know how I can "forc<e> my viewpoint" on my wife much less on a discussion board, my viewpoint in the particular vote prevailed, I was trying to help out another editor who was off-wiki for a week, I made a constructive edit, WP:GAME bears no relationship to the current discussion, and I do not see that you have a working knowledge of the extent to which the archiving at WT:V is being restored to the talk page or why this particular vote was central to most of the talk page discussion. I also know that it is routine to add future timestamps to discussions to prevent archiving, yet what I did was not adding a future timestamp, it was a current timestamp.  However, I get the message that feedback and requests for help here are not exactly welcome.  Unscintillating (talk) 22:37, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
 * You reported what might have been a bug..it wasn't. You asked for a policy where one shouldn't prevent an archiving bot ..I gave you one. I looked and saw that no one was replying to the thread and it correctly archived. <b style="color:#00C">⋙–Ber</b><b style="color:#66f">ean–Hun</b><b style="color:#00C">ter—►</b>  (<b style="color:#00C">(⊕)</b>) 23:50, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Archive on Talk:International recognition of Abkhazia and South Ossetia doesn't seem to work
The archiving on Talk:International recognition of Abkhazia and South Ossetia hasn't worked in ages, and I can't work out how to fix it. I've checked the FAQ and I can't see an obvious reason. Can you help please? Thanks, Bazonka (talk) 16:07, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I've tweaked it and will monitor to see if it works now. <b style="color:#00C">⋙–Ber</b><b style="color:#66f">ean–Hun</b><b style="color:#00C">ter—►</b>  (<b style="color:#00C">(⊕)</b>) 17:04, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Bazonka (talk) 17:30, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
 * The problem was that the article had been moved & re-moved to change its name some time ago but someone had only left redirects for the archives instead of properly moving them. I moved them yesterday and it is working again. <b style="color:#00C">⋙–Ber</b><b style="color:#66f">ean–Hun</b><b style="color:#00C">ter—►</b>  (<b style="color:#00C">(⊕)</b>) 10:58, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Archival of templates
Your bot archived uninvolved without adding tl, so the page archive shows up at Category:Requests for uninvolved help, I removed it manually. Probably automate this task along with archival? --Gryllida 01:07, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

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Help getting archive working again
MiszaBot III was archiving my talk page, but hasn't in a while. I think I know what has gone wrong, but I can't figure out from the various documentation how to fix it. Basically, my intention is to archive any threads inactive for more than 31 days, leaving the default number of minimum threads. The maximum size of the archive is 100K, and then it is supposed to create a new archive. Instead, it appears that MiszaBot stopped once the first archive reached 100K. Shouldn't it automatically create archive 2 at that point? Singularity42 (talk) 05:27, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes it should. I suspect that something happened around 22-24 May which is preventing the archiving from functioning correctly. Your configuration is the same as when it was working properly and 22 May is the last time that the bot archived your page. I've bumped a section header down and manually archived a thread which might be it. I will keep a watch to see if that works. <b style="color:#00C">⋙–Ber</b><b style="color:#66f">ean–Hun</b><b style="color:#00C">ter—►</b>  (<b style="color:#00C">(⊕)</b>) 11:23, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi there! I've been trying to get MiszaBot I rearchiving Talk:Judith Reisman with some tweaks, but no luck either; would you mind having a look there too? Thanks! -- Limulus (talk) 07:40, 22 June 2011 (UTC) Looks like whatever I did kicked in; no need for help now, thanks :) -- Limulus (talk) 09:31, 22 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Singularity's archiving is working again...it was a template message that interfered but was archived manually and everything should be good to go now. <b style="color:#00C">⋙–Ber</b><b style="color:#66f">ean–Hun</b><b style="color:#00C">ter—►</b>  (<b style="color:#00C">(⊕)</b>) 18:38, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Wikinews importer bot suggestion
Hi, I appreciate that you're not editing much here at the moment, but I have a suggestion about this excellent bot of yours. It still wikilinks the dates of the news items it imports, a practice that has really gone out of fashion on WP in the last few years. It can look odd on a portal to have no linked dates anywhere apart from in the Wikinews section, so I wondered whether you'd be able to tweak the code accordingly. A further request, although this may harder to implement, would be to give people the chance to specify whether the news item date should be in "May 1" or "1 May" format - again, some portals look odd with a mixture of dates. Apart from that, carry on the good work! Yours, BencherliteTalk 15:56, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

bot flag
Does MiszaBot III have a bot flag? Even though it marks it edits as minor to my talk page, it caused the "You Have New Messages" banner to show up. Did it not mark it as a bot edit? I did not receive an email notifying me of any new messages (I would if another user left me a message), but it still triggered the banner. Could you try to figure out what happened please? Thanks! Crazymonkey1123 (Jacob) T or M/Sign mine 18:06, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
 * The banner was probably triggered by the Signpost delivery. – xeno <sup style="color:black;">talk 18:11, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Just what I was about to say... looking at the time of your edits, the Signpost delivery came at 15:02 on 21 June, after you went offline on 06:12 on 21 June. MiszaBot III archived your talk page at 14:07 on 22 June, so was the last edit to your talk page, but not one that set the banner off. BencherliteTalk 18:15, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Saudi Arabia
I've tried to set up Miszbot on the above Talk page (per example 2), but nothing is happening. Could someone take a look and tell me what I've done wrong? Thanks. DeCausa (talk) 18:23, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I think I've got you setup now. You had "User Talk:Saudi Arabia" when it should be "Talk:Saudi Arabia" for the target page. <b style="color:#00C">⋙–Ber</b><b style="color:#66f">ean–Hun</b><b style="color:#00C">ter—►</b>  (<b style="color:#00C">(⊕)</b>) 18:33, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
 * D'oh!...thanks very much. DeCausa (talk) 21:41, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

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Bot not archiving
Hi, the bot is ignoring a thread titled "Area of cities" and archives the remaining ones in my talk page. What could be the problem? -- Commander (Ping Me) 07:33, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
 * The bot looks for a timestamp in a format which includes ending with "(UTC)". I added it (and fixed the dates).
 * —WWoods (talk) 17:34, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks! -- Commander (Ping Me) 17:40, 29 June 2011 (UTC)