User talk:Misza13/Archives/2011/07

Regarding a section on WP:BLPN
Hi Misza13,

I know that on WP:BLPN, MiszaBot II automatically archives sections with no replies in 5 days. I want to ask you whether it's possible to have it not archive one thread on there after this time period passes. This is because one "side" of the discussion in the section titled Aelita Andre is a user who only goes on Wikipedia once or twice a week (or less). Tomorrow will be 5 days since this user replied to the thread on WP:BLPN, but the issue doesn't seem to be resolved, and it is this user's turn to speak. The discussion will almost certainly continue when the user signs on again. I'm not familiar with how bots work, but if it is doable, can you please have MiszaBot II not archive the linked section? Thank you! Armadillopteryxtalk 00:01, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Use to put a post-dated timestamp in the section. Or just do that, e.g. put in "00:00, 1 July 2011 (UTC)".
 * —WWoods (talk) 17:13, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I didn't know this template existed. Thanks for sharing it! Armadillopteryxtalk 18:07, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

Using your Importerbot for WikiAfrica
Hi Misza13 I've been searching for a way to import wikinews into the explore africa section of our project - WikiAfrica. I've found your userpage template that can just pull in the top 5 of what's in the news. but I see on this page: http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Africa, that there are also science and technology; culture and entertainment and Wackynews elements, and I would also like to pull in these new feeds to the same table. I had hoped that the importer bot page would help me, and was very excited about it until I started to read it, and my limited tecno and code defeated me. How can I do what I described above? (here are the subpages I created in steps 1 and 2: http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Wikinews_Importer_Bot/WikiAfric and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Wikinewshas/WikiAfrica) Islahaddow (talk) 11:49, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

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I believe your bot might not be handling hidden sections correctly.
After the MiszaBot archived some threads, everything below a hidden section disappeared although the sections still appeared in the table of contents. Go to this history point just after the bot archived the threads. and confirm that its not just me.

I believe I fixed the problem for us. After reverting what the bot did, since it already seemed to have archived the hidden section here Talk:Femininity/Archive_2 I just deleted this... )  which  was still one the talk page.

Let me know how things turn out. Dave3457 (talk) 07:22, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
 * This was a timestamp issue (end of post) inside the collapsed discussion which is corrected now. Things should archive correctly now. ⋙–Berean–Hunter—►  14:53, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

/dev/null
Hello. Any idea why the bot would dump some of my talkpage in the bit bucket? The config was   at the time. Thanks! —DoRD (talk) 13:46, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Thou shalt not collapse the bot config. – xeno talk 13:52, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Ok, I'll rtfm better next time ;) Thanks —DoRD (talk) 13:58, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Template:Bots
On Talk:Climatic Research Unit email controversy, something about
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was stopping MiszaBot from acting since it was added in May. (The indexerbot did run.) I tried fiddling with it, without figuring out what was wrong. Currently, I've got it commented out, but any suggestions on how to make it work right? —WWoods (talk) 14:05, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
 * If the only bot to be prevented is Citation bot, why not write a deny statement instead? – xeno talk 14:09, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Collapsing threads on auto-archived talk pages
A while ago I think I saw an instance where the bot mangled a talk page that had a bunch of collapsed sections, where the entire section (including the heading) was collapsed. Is this a case that's meant to be handled by the bot, i.e.


 * collapse top
 * level 2 heading
 * bunch of text
 * collapse bottom
 * next level 2 heading

I think what the bot did was archive heading to heading, leaving the collapsetop on the page but archiving the collapse bottom with the archived section. I'd think the bot could uncollapse sections as it archives and recognize collapsetop-heading-...-collapsebottom-next heading as something that should be archived without the collapsetop or collapsebottom, and when done should delete the collapsetop through the matching collapsebottom (there are cases where uncollapsing within a section is not the right thing to do, but I'd think uncollapsing entire collapsed sections would be OK). -- Rick Block (talk) 02:59, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Why did your bot archive a talk entry that was only 14 days old?
I noticed MiszaBotI archived a section on Talk:Horizon Air that I posted, saying that it was older than 14 days. I find it outright stupid that your bot would archive something that new, and besides I posted it on June 27--less than 14 days ago. I reverted that edit, but I want you to make sure your bot doesn't do that again. What gets me is that it didn't archive a talk entry on that page that was posted in 2008. (I moved it myself, btw) Why did your bot do this? Could you make sure it doesn't happen again? Thanks, Compdude123 (talk) 19:43, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
 * The section was dated "23 June", so it really was 14 days ago. The other section wasn't archived because its datestamp lacked the "(UTC)", so Miszabot didn't recognize it as a valid date; sections without dates don't ever get archived by the bot.
 * I tweaked the bot to wait longer, and added an archive box so that there's a link to the archive page.
 * —WWoods (talk) 05:09, 9 July 2011 (UTC)


 * I noticed you had it wait only 30 days before archiving. I changed it to a year because this talk page doesn't get new entries very often.  (Not sure if I did it right, please check)  &mdash;Compdude123 (talk) 21:34, 16 July 2011 (UTC)


 * "|algo = old(1yr)</tt>" won't work; Miszbot only recognizes hours or days. You could change it to "<tt>|algo = old(365d)</tt>". Personally, I don't think there's reason to make the archive-by age longer than a few months; the bot won't ever wipe the page bare unless "<tt>|minthreadsleft = 0</tt>".
 * —WWoods (talk) 23:09, 16 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Now that I realize that, I changed the archive-by date to 90 days. &mdash;Compdude123 (talk) 01:21, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

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Archiving bot missing sections
Can anyone see why the bot isn't archiving the top three sections on Talk:Rape during the occupation of Germany? It's run several times, but it keeps skipping those. I can't find any hidden datestamps. —WWoods (talk) 20:01, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
 * They bear L3 headings, instead of L2. – xeno <sup style="color:black;">talk 13:49, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah! Thanks. —WWoods (talk) 16:39, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Possible oversights of MiszaBot III
Hello there. I hope you don't mind me mentioning something. If a user uses MiszaBot III to archive, then it archives anything on user's talk page given the user set parameters. However, some templates like the block/request-unblock template says "Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked." I've noticed a few instances where MiszaBot III archives the unblock review, and removes it from the users' page. What would you recommend I do in such a case? — Fly by Night  ( talk )  00:40, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

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Wikinews importer bot suggestion
Hi, I appreciate that you're not editing much here at the moment, but I have a suggestion about this excellent bot of yours. It still wikilinks the dates of the news items it imports, a practice that has really gone out of fashion on WP in the last few years. It can look odd on a portal to have no linked dates anywhere apart from in the Wikinews section, so I wondered whether you'd be able to tweak the code accordingly. A further request, although this may harder to implement, would be to give people the chance to specify whether the news item date should be in "May 1" or "1 May" format - again, some portals look odd with a mixture of dates. Apart from that, carry on the good work! Yours, BencherliteTalk 15:56, 22 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Bringing this back today (21:00, 19 July 2011 (UTC)) from the archive with a future time stamp in the hope that you might see it in due course. BencherliteTalk 20:59, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

July 2011 Newsletter for WikiProject United States
--Kumioko (talk) 12:53, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

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Wikinews Importer Bot
Hello ! I think there had a problem on it May you check it, please ? You may reply here, thx. 86.67.6.50 (talk) 14:27, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Curious Question
MiszaBot II archived an unresolved AN/I thread to the AN/I archive which had an ongoing and unclosed poll. I've gone ahead and restored the unresolved thread upon request from another user after its archiving. My question is this: is there any kind of tag that will cause MiszaBot (I or II) to skip that section when analyzing for archiving, or cause it to wait a longer time before archiving it? Polls can take a matter of days and 24h might not be long enough to test for archiving an ongoing poll if it's meant to last for, say, 7 days and the thread is archived before it's closed. CycloneGU (talk) 00:44, 30 July 2011 (UTC)


 * . Stick that in the section with an appropriate number of days.
 * —WWoods (talk) 03:59, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the tip - I tried the fake sig. trick for now, apparently someone used it on this very page as well, but I'll do this instead. =)