User talk:Misza13/Archives/2012/02

Misza Bot
How do I apply to have my talk page archived?--The Theosophist (talk) 19:36, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry for stalking. Just add the template to your talk page and the bot will archive it based on the settings you input. --Kumioko (talk) 19:49, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I started it for yoy but you might need to tweak it a little to your liking. --Kumioko (talk) 20:07, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Wikibooks
b:User:MiszaBot was doing talk page archiving at en.wikibooks. A couple months ago it stopped. I checked into it today and somehow it was shown as being blocked indefinitely since 2007 (!?). How that can be with it having edited in the past year is beyond me. I confirmed that it was an actual block and not simply a block log entry. See the log. I've unblocked the bot so hopefully it should be working there again. – Adrignola talk 23:06, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Archiving
I want it month-by-month but I don't know how to... program it! Can you help me?--The Theosophist (talk) 12:49, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Doesn't seem like enough traffic to make monthly archives, but yeah, you can change it to

|archive = User talk:The Theosophist/Archive %(year)d/%(monthnameshort)s
 * or some such. See User:MiszaBot/Archive HowTo.
 * —WWoods (talk) 18:21, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but I am really technophobic and when I see codes more complicated than I faint (sometimes literally). Once, it took me half-an-hour to understand how refferences work and two days later I had forgotten it... Can you do it for me?--The Theosophist (talk) 20:36, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

not archiving Talk:Year 2000 problem
I have looked pretty carefully, but don't see why the bot is not archiving Talk:Year 2000 problem. The latest comment is mine, at the bottom, at 05:43, 4 February 2011 (UTC).

Maybe it is because there is a block of text in the section with a lot of dates listed? (Doesn't make sense though—they are all well in the past.) —EncMstr (talk) 21:02, 2 February 2012 (UTC)


 * The  parameter, which (as its name suggests) controls the minimum number of threads remaining after archiving (explained here), is not defined on that page, so it defaults to 5. Since there are only five threads remaining on that page, the bot won't archive any of them until a new thread is started or until you define   as a lower number. jcgoble3 (talk) 22:00, 2 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks, I'll try adding that with value one. 5 is a surprising default value.  I expect it would be zero.  —EncMstr (talk) 23:21, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
 * It works! Thanks again!  —EncMstr (talk) 18:46, 6 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Actually, it wasn't working, but it should now. jcgoble3 (talk) 02:08, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Not archiving (again)
Very sorry to bother you yet again, but since I've gone back to numbered archives my archiving has stopped (after January 27, and there are enough threads to archive). After moving my current archive page (/Archive 7) I changed the code and checked the FAQ, but must be missing something. Thanks again and all the best, Miniapolis (talk) 02:54, 9 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Defining a variable as itself doesn't work. :)  is a variable that calls the value of the counter parameter. I changed counter to "7" (your current archive), so it should work now. jcgoble3 (talk)


 * Oh boy, thanks a lot. I have to learn this language...:-) All the best, Miniapolis (talk) 14:49, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Archive box not updated
MiszaBot I archived Talk:Bluetooth, but did not update the archive box. —danhash (talk) 18:29, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
 * That is not the functionality of the bot. That talk page has an archiving style which requires manual updating. This was the previous update to the one that you did. I would suggest adding 2012 to the box as you will soon have threads that archive there. ⋙–Berean–Hunter—►  20:05, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Better to have cluttered discussion pages (as annoying as that is) than to have inaccessible discussion. Why doesn't the bot update archive templates? Or is there an archive template the one on that page could be changed to that is able to be automatically updated by a bot? —danhash (talk) 20:59, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
 * When the person set up the archive, they chose to use a custom form that is not updated automatically. If the archive pages had the format Archive 1, Archive 2,...etc. then those would show up in the archive box provided that the correct parameters are set. To make those adjustments, the archive pages would need to be renamed (moved) to match that format. ⋙–Berean–Hunter—►  21:08, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

What time does MiszaBot II run?
Hi,

(About) when does MiszaBot II run every day? I'm trying to sync archiving up with a separate script that refreshes a database report on ns4. The idea is to archive the old report every day shortly before the new report runs and overwrites it. I could write archiving into my own script, but I'm a slow coder and would rather rely on cool tools with a proven track record, for now anyway :) Thanks! Jtmorgan (talk) 20:13, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
 * About 1:35 am - my local time. :) Since that may not help you, you may want to look at the contribs to compare this to your time zone.  ⋙–Berean–Hun<b style="color:#00C">ter—►</b>  12:13, 13 February 2012 (UTC)


 * On any page, it runs at about the same time each day (if it runs). But the time varies with the page, in a way I haven't figured out. Working its way through pages in alphabetical order? Scanning down my watchlist, I see


 * 08:02 	Talk:Royal Rife‎
 * 07:59 	Talk:Ron Paul‎
 * 07:41 	Talk:Republican Party (United States)‎
 * 07:39 	Talk:Republic of China‎
 * 06:30 	Talk:Paul Robeson‎
 * 06:28 	Talk:Paul Krugman‎
 * 03:39 	Talk:List of thrash metal bands‎
 * 02:11 	Talk:Kamikaze
 * 00:42 	Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mixed martial arts‎
 * 00:27 	Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Germany‎
 * 00:23 	Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Film‎
 * 23:45 	Talk:Google Earth
 * 23:43 	Wikipedia talk:United States Education Program
 * 23:33 	Wikipedia talk:Record charts‎
 * 23:27 	Talk:Geometric algebra‎
 * 23:19 	Talk:Gautama Buddha‎

Different schedules for different namespaces? —WWoods (talk) 19:48, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
 * looks to me like (for the Wikipedia namespace, anyway) the bot archives everything at about 06:35UTC, then runs again on a couple of highly active boards (like Admin noticeboard) at other points during the day. Jtmorgan (talk) 17:54, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Why doesn't Miszabot like me?
Miszabot is somehow capable of distinguishing between datestamps I've added, and those that were put there by the original author of a comment, or added by Sinebot. And then it ignores mine, e.g.:
 * "99.35.14.75 (talk) 04:10, 20 January 2012‎ (UTC)" on

It'll accept dates if I add them with my own comment, and I've found I can get away with a back-dated, but ... what's the problem? —WWoods (talk) 20:29, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I notice that the page must have been RevDel 'd in that diff you have provided as it shows 109 revisions removed. Not sure if that plays into this or not. I also see the string "January/February 2012" in the text and not sure if Miszabot is picking up on that. I went back and found the original contrib and then subst'd to place the timestamp. Let's see if that helps.  <b style="color:#00C">⋙–Ber</b><b style="color:#66f">ean–Hun</b><b style="color:#00C">ter—►</b>  12:37, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Yay! <b style="color:#00C">⋙–Ber</b><b style="color:#66f">ean–Hun</b><b style="color:#00C">ter—►</b>  18:46, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Note that it didn't work on the 14th, so I used the DNAU trick. —WWoods (talk) 20:50, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Dang!  <b style="color:#00C">⋙–Ber</b><b style="color:#66f">ean–Hun</b><b style="color:#00C">ter—►</b>  01:39, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

WT:CHARTS
Can you look into why older discussions aren't being archived at Wikipedia talk:Record charts? Thanks. --Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars (talk) 21:43, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Maybe because Archive #9 is a redirect? I changed it to start #10; we'll see what happens.
 * —WWoods (talk) 19:09, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Request to archive the Bistro (the French "Village Pump") of Wikimedia Commons
Hello Misza13,

I wonder if your MiszaBot could archive the French Village Pump on Wikimedia Commons : the Bistro. Here is the algo : Example : Do you think that MiszaBot can do that ?
 * The first of the month, the robot writes the name of the month (in French) under the last discussion of the previous month, and creates the archive page of the previous month, as "[month in letters]_[year in numbers]" French month names: Janvier, Février, Mars, Avril, Mai, Juin, Juillet, Août, Septembre, Octobre, Novembre, Décembre
 * The 10th of the month, it archives all threads of the previous month, except those which have had an activity during the current month.
 * The 20th of the month, it comes again and archives all threads of the previous month which no longer had any activity for ten days.
 * And so on, in order that a still active discussion won't be archived too soon. When all threads of a month have been archived, the robot removes the section title of that month in the Bistro.
 * 2012, 1st March, the robot writes "Mars" at the bottom of the Bistro. It creates the page Bistro/archives/Février 2012.
 * On March 10 it moves all threads of February 2012. All? No! Because two discussions which started in February are still ongoing.
 * On March 20, it comes again and finds that one of the two February's discussions had no intervention since March 5. Then it moves that one into the archive page of February.
 * 2012, 1st April, the robot writes "Avril" at the bottom of the Bistro. It creates the page Bistro/archives/Mars 2012. It detects that the last discussion started in February han't had any activity since February 19. It moves it into the archive page of February. The "Janvier" section of the Bistro is now empty: the robot removes it.

Greetings, Sémhur 19:20, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Bot seems to be losing content
Hello - I noticed on talk page for the article on the First Amendment that in the last archive the bot did, it lost some of the content. Compare this revision to this one and then see the latest archive and you'll notice there is at least one missing discussion under the heading "Citation quality". Not being sure who to notice on this issue, I'm posting here, Thanks. Sctechlaw (talk) 11:43, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Not sure what you mean. The thread is archived here in Archive 3. <b style="color:#00C">⋙–Ber</b><b style="color:#66f">ean–Hun</b><b style="color:#00C">ter—►</b>  11:51, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Indeed it is - thanks. I did not see it because the archive box on the talk page has no link to Archive 3. This means others will also probably not be able to find it though. I've noticed this on other pages too. Does the bot automagically add the archive name to the archive list box or is that up to editors to do? Sctechlaw (talk) 12:31, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Also, I'm looking for the page describing the differences between Misza I, II, and II, but so far not finding it. Can you direct me please? Sctechlaw (talk) 12:34, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Differences are described at the top of this page. Archive boxes are updated if they have the standard format of Archive 1, Archive 2, etc. but if the names are something else then it would require manual creation of the link. I'll take a look at moving them to the standard convention. <b style="color:#00C">⋙–Ber</b><b style="color:#66f">ean–Hun</b><b style="color:#00C">ter—►</b>  12:41, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I've resolved the issue by changing the box format. Also, notice that there are links to the archives in the main talk page box as well as the box in the margin. <b style="color:#00C">⋙–Ber</b><b style="color:#66f">ean–Hun</b><b style="color:#00C">ter—►</b>  12:46, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much! Sorry for the bother. Sctechlaw (talk)
 * You're welcome and no bother. <b style="color:#00C">⋙–Ber</b><b style="color:#66f">ean–Hun</b><b style="color:#00C">ter—►</b>  13:09, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

MiszaBots didn't run after February 16, 2012
Where can I read about the reasons why MiszaBot III stopped working? I would love to continue archiving my talk page... &mdash; Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk) 14:19, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Seconded.  I hope this isn't because the toolserver admins have locked your account per inactivity :\ - F ASTILY  (TALK)  09:57, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Thirded. My talk page is starting to clutter with stuff from the 13th of February.— cyberpower  ( Chat )( WP Edits: 517,651,212 ) 13:03, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I've made a request on Anomie's talk page so hopefully help is on its way. <b style="color:#00C">⋙–Ber</b><b style="color:#66f">ean–Hun</b><b style="color:#00C">ter—►</b>  13:08, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

From what I can see from here, MiszaBot II isn't archiving threads since 17 February 2012. Um, is there something that happened?  Whenaxis  talk &middot; &#32;contribs &#124; DR goes to Wikimania!  02:26, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
 * A discussion has been started here. --Andrew (User:90) (talk) 22:22, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Issue with Wikinews Importer Bot
Please see n:Wikinews:Water_cooler/miscellaneous. Any ideas? :) &mdash; Cirt (talk) 19:20, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Hmmm...looks like someone's bot machine went down. I believe this would be related to the thread above. Should we write Misza13 an email? <b style="color:#00C">⋙–Ber</b><b style="color:#66f">ean–Hun</b><b style="color:#00C">ter—►</b>  01:38, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
 * It may also be due to the fact that the Botoperator hasn't edited since May 2011. Its likely that the operators toolserver account expired. --Kumioko (talk) 01:54, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
 * What needs to be done now? <b style="color:#00C">⋙–Ber</b><b style="color:#66f">ean–Hun</b><b style="color:#00C">ter—►</b>  01:57, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
 * If that is indeed the problem, then you should drop a note at Bot requests (or ask one of the bag folks like Anomie. They can verify if my theory is correct and work on finding replacement operators for the bots. I would o it myself but I am strongly considering walking away from teh project myself after a series of unfortunate recent events. Good luck. --Kumioko (talk) 02:09, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Hello Misza13! Just noticed that User:DrTrigonBot is able to do the same as your bot... ;)) Just wanted to inform you. Greetings --DrTrigon (talk) 17:44, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

MiszaBot II stopped archiving at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Dates and numbers
Its last edit was 29 August 2011, with no edits during Sep/Oct or apparently subsequent months. The code is still present in the current version of the page at, and the counter was incremented on 23 July 2011. I'm unfamiliar with auto-archiving, so does anyone else have any idea what's wrong please? Thanks. -- Trevj (talk) 15:47, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
 * You did a good job reporting; helped me immediately find the problem. The talk page was moved on Aug 31 but the archives all match the older name. Those in this thread goofed except Vadmium for not realizing the problem. Since the source page and target page mask do not match, the bot rightfully won't archive the page. The fix involves moving the 135+ pages to the correct format and then correcting the mask. Alternatively, the target mask could be changed and the counter incremented to allow archiving to a page 136 but there would be a break in format consistency. I'm not sure if indexer bots could work with that or not.


 * Wwoods, would a merge work to correct this? Is there a better fix than what I've recommended. I'm wondering if something in the admin tools might help with this problem. <b style="color:#00C">⋙–Ber</b><b style="color:#66f">ean–Hun</b><b style="color:#00C">ter—►</b>  19:52, 22 February 2012 (UTC)


 * I just updated the bot to match the 'new' name, and came back to drop a note! I also moved Archive 135 to match.
 * The indexerbot doesn't seem to be there, but it can handle multiple masks.
 * —WWoods (talk) 20:05, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you; that should work. <b style="color:#00C">⋙–Ber</b><b style="color:#66f">ean–Hun</b><b style="color:#00C">ter—►</b>  20:35, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
 * to all involved in resolving this. I hope no other MoS discussions have been similarly affected. -- Trevj (talk) 08:49, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
 * ...And it's working! Since the page hadn't been archive for so long, I extended the deadline from 14 to 30 days, but feel free to reset that; the page is still rather long. —WWoods (talk) 01:47, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

MiszaBot II does not honour &lt;pre&gt; sections
Hi. In this edit at WT:NJ, the bot archived a portion of a post due to not recognizing the &lt;pre&gt; tag use. Can you change the parser to recognize this? --ChrisRuvolo (t) 18:36, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Rekwest for hilp
Hi, Me bozo. Wantz to arkive page Wikipedia talk:Christianity noticeboard for 60 dai peryud and ohn uzer tawk page with Miszbot III but not sher how to do it exactly. John Carter (talk) 21:51, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

Archive pages not rolling over
Hello (sigh) again. My talk-page threads are archiving (which I appreciate), but the current archive is getting pretty big (my maxarchivesize is the default 70K and it's up to 81K). I removed the noredlinks parameter from my archiveheader; was that the problem, or is it something else? Thanks again and all the best,  Miniapolis  ( talk ) 00:42, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Hmm? It says here that Archive #7 is only 26k at the moment. But if you want, just manually change <tt>counter</tt> from 7 to 8.
 * —WWoods (talk) 05:55, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Yikes, I was looking at the wrong number (the file size instead of the wiki text). Thanks and all the best,  Miniapolis  ( talk ) 16:53, 27 February 2012 (UTC)