User talk:Misza13/Archives/2012/10

An unexplained mystery at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive770 Self-determination
This ANI discussion was vandalized at the end by a major strike-through which I could not attribute to any particular person in the edit history. It was archived with the vandalism but when I looked at it yesterday and it's present location, the vandalism was removed, and the discussion looked as it should have look with a minimal strikethough (made by me - and before the close) i.e., a true version of what it looked like at closing.

Now, both versions are at the same spot - one NOT archived showing it ciorrectly and another of the exact same ANI showing the major strikethrough and archived. Can you look into this please. This discussion did NOT look like this before the original closing and I would like the vandalism investigated and removed. Thank you. Mugginsx (talk) 21:35, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Some issues with bot #1
See here. Lothar von Richthofen (talk) 03:12, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

How long does it take for the MiszaBot to start archiving?
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How long does it take for the MiszaBot to start archiving?--Jax 0677 (talk) 14:51, 6 October 2012 (UTC) — Berean Hunter   (talk)  02:25, 8 October 2012 (UTC) — Berean Hunter   (talk)  14:51, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Usually the bots do a cycle every 24-36 hours. Brad (talk) 22:50, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
 * My talk page still has over 100 items on it. How long should this take to clear?  Will that happen after about one month or so?--Jax 0677 (talk) 01:45, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure what you meant to do here but that isn't adding a working copy of Miszabot. Did you mean to add 175K in that edit?
 * Reply - I added what I was told to add, and I didn't "mean to add 175K in that edit". If I didn't do it right, what is the right way to do it?--Jax 0677 (talk) 03:13, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
 * (After going to help) It looks like you solved this on your own and your archiving is now working. :)

Bot archiving out of chronological order
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I have reverted MiszaBot because it was sending threads to the oldest, rather than the newest, of 13 archive pages. I've disabled archiving on that page for the moment, just in case there's something wrong. (More likely I'm hallucinating—I've never seen this happen before.) Rivertorch (talk) 09:18, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
 * What a disaster. The counter number on the bot was not set for archive 13 but for archive 1. Archive 1 had not exceeded its bot size setting therefore the bot was doing as it was instructed. Counter changed to 13 and archive size reduced to 100kb. Brad (talk) 22:50, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the fix. Rivertorch (talk) 23:15, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Talkheaders archived
In this edit Miszabot I removed some templates from the talkpage header, including links to its own archives. Is there a reason it's doing this, and how can it be fixed? Apologies if this is a question that will make me look silly in hindsight, or something similar. CMD (talk) 10:35, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Seems to me that the }} on the same line as (counter)d caused the trouble. Wwoods has fixed that. There are a couple threads which should archive in a day or two. See what happens then. Brad (talk) 22:16, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Archiver
Any idea why it stopped archiving my user talk two months ago?  MBisanz  talk 23:48, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
 * All I could try was moving the bot code to the top of the page. Everything else looks in order. Wait and see. Brad (talk) 08:04, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Still no archiving activity. Brad (talk) 15:30, 8 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Did anything change in the Bot code after June 24, 2012? The only thing I can see is it is asked to archive into a protected page, something it was able to do prior to that. Does it work on subpages? I am trying to get it to archive Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Capital letters. Apteva (talk) 18:08, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Evidently the answer to subpages is no ("This page is manually moved to the talk page, then auto archive will work"). Apteva (talk) 20:34, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure what you're asking for but if you want the bot to archive to an alternative page you need to obtain a key. Misza13 gives out the key so if he sees this hopefully he'll respond. Brad (talk) 22:16, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Not sure what that is about but the top of this section is about a user talk page that appears to still not being archived - archiving stopped in June. I was asking about archiving the subpage Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Capital letters and found someone who was moving subpage discussions to the main talk page so that they would get automatically archived. But not on a subpage to the sub page, but mixed in with the other archives. Apteva (talk) 22:53, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

MiszaBot not archiving SN
Hello. Since May 2012, m:User:MiszaBot is not archiving Stewards' noticeboard (working correctly on the other pages, though). The template code hasn't changed since the bot started archiving. I've searched the page trying to find if a disrupted wikicode was confusing the bot but I couldn't find any. Could you please have a look when possible? Thank you very much in advance. Best regards, --MarcoAurelio (talk) 13:28, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Adding space in headers
I have noticed that when MiszaBot II is archiving, it adds space at the beginning and end of the header of a section. For example:

gets converted to

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There really has never been any consensus about whether to have space or not, and I think right now it's just a matter of preference. Why does the bot do this? (Example of an edit to the Teahouse) –– Anonymouse321 (talk • contribs) 06:45, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Exactly, and I am one of those with a preference for not adding a space, either after the line with the topic or between the topic and ==. A blank line is always needed above the topic line, and I would not expect the bot to make that change - but to archive exactly what was on the talk page. I prefer no space because if I am doing a text search I can do an "=Topic" search, and if there is a space I have to do it twice, the second time with "= Topic". So I would prefer the bot leave the header exactly as it is found. Apteva (talk) 16:16, 18 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Hard luck, then. Because everyone who uses the "new section" button (as opposed to editing the last section on a page) adds it in a syntax that's inconvenient to you. Anyway, this is not going to change and the explanation has been added to the FAQ as Q6. Regards, &mdash;Миша 13 08:05, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. So if I am reading this correctly, the way the bot parses the page it makes a list of headings and content, deletes the stale ones, and reconstructs the page from its data making up its own formatting following the formatting that is used by new section, as it does not capture the formatting. Apteva (talk) 23:27, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

Bot keeps adding to a full archive
I'm sure I have something set up incorrectly on this archive as the bot keeps adding to it, yet acknowledges that it's full. What's even stranger to me, is that it has archived to the correct archive twice. Can you take a look? Thanks. Jauerbackdude?/dude. 15:23, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Main reason was the bot didn't change the archive number from 12 to 13 as it should have. I changed it to 13 and removed a lot of white space; moved bot code to top of page. If that doesn't work then notify again. Brad (talk) 23:51, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

MiszaBot
Hey, I think I might be a bit confused using MiszaBot to archive. Every time it archives, it goes to 1. How do I make it go to 2, 3, 4, etc? Thanks! TV | talk 17:40, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
 * The setting:  means that each archive page has to reach 70K in size before starting a new archive. Your archive #1 is currently at 23K in size. Reduce maxarchive size for shorter archive pages. Brad (talk) 00:01, 31 October 2012 (UTC)