User talk:Misza13/Archives/2013/06

Miszabot III
Could someone pop over to my talk page and get Miszabot going... Ive read the FAQs etc... still cant make it go :/ -- Nbound (talk) 14:11, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Looks fine to me... Have you waited for The bot runs once a day at a preset hour, or twice a day for WP:AN and WP:AN/I. Simply wait for the next cycle and you should see the bot's entries in the history list of your article providing there was anything to archive, and the history list entry should provide a link to the archive page you specified.? Technical 13 (talk) 14:22, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Yep, though have played with it after each one, trying to figure it out... heres and older revision, what is/was wrong with it? Coz it didnt work - http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Nbound&action=edit&oldid=558354167 -- Nbound (talk) 14:50, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I've been watching the bot's contributions today as it works through the pages in alphabetical order. Today it got to User talk:Nascarking and then stopped for half an hour before doing your page; from the history of that page and of User talk:Nascarking/Archive 3, it's clear that something there was causing the bot to get confused each day. I've tweaked the archiving instruction at User talk:Nascarking and will keep an eye on it. -- John of Reading (talk) 17:29, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Great, I was wondering what I was doing wrong! haha... Glad its finally up and going for me, thanks for helping me out :) -- Nbound (talk) 03:42, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

Problem with bot not archiving talk page
Please could you have a look at Talk:Salafi movement. The bot is not archiving and I cannot figure out why not. I have tried changing the parameters to make it work. Help.--Toddy1 (talk) 18:52, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I've tweaked the configuration a little. It "should" archive tomorrow for you.  The problem was that you had the archive directory set to something that was not a direct subdirectory of that page.  You can't do that without a specially requested key. Update tomorrow as to whether or not it worked. Technical 13 (talk) 19:04, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks. During various moves of the page, the bot instructions in the talk page were not updated and I did not spot that error.


 * One strange thing - when it did the archiving last night, it missed the item headed "4.7 Persecution of Salafis".--Toddy1 (talk) 07:45, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
 * MiszaBot I is very picky about timestamps. They must occur at the end of the paragraph, so they cannot be followed by HTML markup, even if that is invisible. I've, and hopefully this will archive tomorrow morning. -- Red rose64 (talk) 09:36, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
 * It, which reminds me that there were also old threads at Talk:Rupert Murdoch that were refusing to archive in a similar manner - I had to . -- Red rose64 (talk) 10:53, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Interesting. I'm wondering if it is a bad timestamp or some other failure to know that it is a new section and not part of the DNAU section directly above it.  If this edit I made works and the bot archives the section tomorrow, we'll know that this idea is on the right track. Technical 13 (talk) 11:12, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Does MiszaBot Detect Templates?
I'm wondering if the ability to detect "archive header" and "resolved" type templates has been added yet? Technical 13 (talk) 11:35, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

Archiving
Hi,

Why [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:AutoWikiBrowser&diff=556225696&oldid=556049254 archiving discussions] which havn't answer yet? Automatik (talk) 09:18, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
 * The archiving instructions at the top of Wikipedia talk:AutoWikiBrowser are telling the bot to archive each thread seven days after its last post. It can't tell whether the questions have been properly answered. The bot will archive the threads again fairly soon unless you mark them with the Bump or DNAU templates. -- John of Reading (talk) 09:42, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
 * MiszaBot cannot know if a thread is still open or not, it just looks at the latest datestamp and compares that against the configuration for the page. The most recent timestamps on three archived threads were as follows:
 * Add a specific edit summary for a replacement: 18:23, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Nomination for deletion of Template:Empty section: 00:40, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Regex and Semitic languages: 13:00, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
 * If you locate the User:MiszaBot/config on Wikipedia talk:AutoWikiBrowser, you'll see that it has old(7d), which according to User:MiszaBot/Archive HowTo means that threads older than 7 days "will land in archives depending on their date (that is newest timestamp)". 7 days subtracted from the archive date (22 May) gives 15 May 2013. The edit summary confirms this: it states that those threads were "older than 7d". -- Red rose64 (talk) 09:48, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I'll use DNAU. Automatik (talk) 14:36, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

I used DNAU (with subst:) and it didn't work [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:AutoWikiBrowser&diff=559520659&oldid=559430869]. What could I do? Automatik (talk) 12:44, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
 * See User:MiszaBot/Archive FAQ, Q5. The DNAU timestamp was not the first one on the line, so it was ignored. -- Red rose64 (talk) 13:04, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Automatik (talk) 16:50, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

Creation of a Bot
Hi, how is a bot created on Wikipedia? I would like to develop a bot that could possibly be used on Wikipedia, but don't know how to create one? NarSakSasLee (talk) 16:52, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Misza13 is not a member of WP:BAG. For all information about bots, please start off at WP:BOTS. It has links to several other pages concerning bots; note particularly that no bot may be used without first being approved at WP:BRFA. -- Red rose64 (talk) 19:03, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

Archiving at my talk page.
The bot isn't archiving the way I want it. I would like it yo archive threads older than 10 days and incrementally increase the archive number. There are threads that aren't getting automatically archived. Help please. When it comes to scripts I am like a turtle on my back. Adam in MO Talk 23:21, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
 * The archiving instructions look fine to me. The problem is that those old newsletters have no timestamps. You'll have to delete or archive those threads manually, or perhaps add an old timestamp to each one and wait 24 hours for the bot to try again. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:50, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Done' Thanks a ton. Adam in MO Talk 08:32, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Archiving of things like Signpost
I was wondering if there's any chance of getting an option for MiszaBot III to exclude things like the Signpost, which are already archived here and linked to from the main Signpost page. I realize that this probably isn't worth prioritizing and the only other attempt to do something like this by allowing filters seems to have fallen by the wayside, but it would reduce the amount of threads that have to be moved (albeit while requiring an extra thread title comparison to weed out Signpost threads). I'll try to watch this page but if you decide to reply please consider leaving a talkback on my talk page, thanks.  Cat-five t  c   07:19, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
 * isn't around much these days. What you could do is get your signpost delivered to a special subpage, such as User talk:Cat-five/Signpost, instead of your main talk page. That can be done quite easily, just go to Wikipedia Signpost/Tools/Spamlist, and alter your entry accordingly: there are plenty of other subscribers who have done that, or something similar, including six in the C's: Caiaffa; CambridgeBayWeather; Chris Mason; Ckatz; Clarkcj12; Cncmaster. -- Red rose64 (talk) 09:07, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the reply, that's unfortunate but what I expected. Since that means no notices of new issues I might as well use one of the two templates so I guess I'll stick to purging them manually from my archives from time to time. Thanks again for the reply though.  Cat-five t  c   17:34, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

WT:AFC


Uhm, why isn't the bot creating an archive 4 as in the edit summary? See Special:Contributions/MiszaBot II... mabdul 08:52, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
 * It didn't create the page because it tried but couldn't save - there's an edit filter preventing the archive page from being created. I've given more information at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Articles for creation/2013 6. -- Red rose64 (talk) 10:31, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

WP:ANI
MiszaBot II appears not to be archiving at least one thread at ANI. As far as I can tell, that thread has not been updated since June 17, and the bot is supposed to archive any thread older than 36h. The bot is archiving, so it's not like it's not functioning at all. I haven't checked, though, if there are other threads it's not archiving. Is there something unusual about the thread? Thanks for checking into it.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:43, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Without the bot's source code I can't be certain, but I'm suspicious of the paragraph beginning "This ia a case...". It has no signature timestamps, but does have a protection log entry that contains timestamps "30 June 2013". As an experiment, I've added "nowiki" tags so that the bot is unlikely to recognise these as timestamps. -- John of Reading (talk) 15:35, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks, John, your suspicions are better than most people's certainties. My suspicion, which ain't worth much, is what you did will work.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:06, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

MiszaBot archiving tool
I use MiszaBot for archiving, and there are a few posts in a row that are unsigned talkback. ClueBot III has a template that you can use to tell the bot to archive things like that. Would it be possible for you to create something like that for MiszaBot? ö   Brambleberry  of   RiverClan  17:43, 27 June 2013 (UTC)