User talk:Misza13/Archives/2013/09

Old threads archived to /dev/null
Why did the bot [//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/MiszaBot_II?offset=20070609063614&limit=5 remove these threads without copying them to somewhere else]? I was particularlly interested in the thread about "dontcountme", which wasn't showing up in any search results, because [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=next&oldid=136886507 it was removed on this edit]. Helder 15:34, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
 * At the time of those edits, the page looked like this. Note the explanation at the top, then click "edit source" to see the "User:MiszaBot/config" template with a blank "archive" parameter. The bot was doing exactly what it was being asked to do. -- John of Reading (talk) 15:48, 1 September 2013 (UTC)


 * (More) Most of these old threads were later reconstructed into searchable archives. See Bots/Requests for approval/LivingBot 18. I don't know why the thread you mention wasn't included; it should have been included in Village pump (technical)/Archive AQ or thereabouts. -- John of Reading (talk) 15:59, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
 * John of Reading, would it be possible to run that bot again, for the remaining archives? Helder 18:39, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I've no idea. The bot was run by [ping!] so perhaps he could look into it. -- John of Reading (talk) 18:42, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
 * The bot was a haphazard affair aimed at getting most threads back in roughly the right order (not as easy as it sounds); it could probably have been written better but I don't have enough time to rewrite it now (alas). - Jarry1250 [Vacation needed] 19:05, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

Proposal on village pump to enable auto-archiving by default
Hello, please see this proposal on the village pump. Graham 87 16:33, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Talk:Tottenham Hotspur F.C. # Archive
Your bot is archiving the talk page, but it isn't placing new links to the archived pages and I can't see whats happening, can you please have a look and fix accordingly. Many thanks. Govvy (talk) 13:07, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
 * What do you mean by "it isn't placing new links to the archived pages"? -- Red rose64 (talk) 16:20, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

New contributors' help page archives
I discovered the Teahouse after I had contributed to the new contributors' help page and found the Teahouse in my contributions. I didn't realize the Teahouse was a regular help page as opposed to a chat room where I needed special software or something. Once I made the discovery I worked my way back through the Teahouse archives, then I realized the new contributors' help page had archives too. However, the archiving process for that doesn't seem very logical. Questions don't seem to be in any kind of order and are arranged by the month when they were asked, with a few exceptions that I fixed. I was starting to fix other stuff that was out of order but things are such a mess this seems pointless. The old questions and answers are interesting to read and I do still learn stuff.— Vchimpanzee  ·  talk  ·  contributions  · 19:28, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

Bot III
Is it running? It seems to have made no contributions since 11 September? Fiddle  Faddle  09:45, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I can't advise you on this one! I've posted at the Bot owners' noticeboard. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:03, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you, sir. Fiddle   Faddle  16:18, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
 * MiszaBot III was restarted at 17:25, 20 September 2013 and completed successfully at 05:56, 21 September 2013. Another run began 12:36, 21 September 2013 - about 20 minutes ago, so the problem seems to be resolved. -- Red rose64 (talk) 12:54, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

311 Archiving
I'm not really sure how this bot archiving thing works, do you do it or does it do it automatically?Zdawg1029 (talk) 14:35, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Is this about the page Talk:311 (band)? That page is being archived by one of Misza13's bots, which is looking at the instructions hidden at the top of the page. If you click "[Edit source]" you'll see them. -- John of Reading (talk) 15:23, 13 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Are you calling me a talk page stalker? I went to see if anyone commented on my suggestion to add individual pages for each member of 311 because there is only a page about the Nick Hexum. My point in asking about the archiving was because I didn't see why it was necessary or useful to archive a talk page with only one thing on it, whether it had been 28 days or not. It's not like it is some overcrowded page with section after section, so it just seemed a little unnecessary to archive it.Zdawg1029 (talk) 01:30, 15 September 2013 (UTC)


 * No, I'm calling myself a "talk page stalker". This is supposed to alert people posting here that they are getting a reply from some random third editor, not from Misza13 as they would expect. Since Misza13 hasn't been active at the English Wikipedia recently, a couple of other editors are trying to answer the questions left here.


 * I agree with you about Talk:311 (band). I have changed the archiving parameters and moved the last two threads back from the archive to the talk page. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:22, 15 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Ah okay, yeah I thought you were calling me that. But thanks, hopefully now someone sees it and takes it upon themselves to fulfill my request to make pages for each of them, they are an extremely popular band that has been around along time, so to me it seems like a good idea to make them. There has to be enough available information out there to have content on the pages, unfortunately I just don't have the time to make them myself, at least not for a while. But thanks for fixing that.Zdawg1029 (talk) 15:03, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
 * When you see an article that needs work, but you cannot do it yourself, the thing to do is to ask other editors with the same interests to help with the article.

projects on talk page.--DThomsen8 (talk) 15:01, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

drop sections
I've found an instance of MiszaBot II dropping threads when creating new AN/I archive pages. Please see [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=559185367 diff] and [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive800&oldid=559185352 initial page creation]. NE Ent 02:20, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
 * The bot's [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=559185367 edit summary] says it copied them to archive 799 and archive 800. I think [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive799&diff=559185344&oldid=559131083 this edit to 799] archived the other threads. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:18, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, consider [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/MiszaBot_II&offset=20130610063641&limit=3 these three edits] as a group. -- Red rose64 (talk) 13:36, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Thx, problem is something else (search wasn't find it for me), discussed a vpt NE Ent 16:39, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

Appropriate to archive User talk page?
Hello Misza13! I notice new Wikipedian User:Blurred Lines has set up MiszaBot to archive threads on their User Talk page that are older than 24 hours. Is that appropriate? I didn't think users should use your useful bot to auto-archive their own Talk pages, and if they do, I wouldn't think they should arrange for it to be done every 24 hours. I am asking because I once tried communicating with this user, and instead answering, they just let the bot archive messages that had been left that day, as if they had never existed. No link on the Talk page to retrieve archived messages added to the confusion. Thanks for your thoughts on this! —Prhartcom (talk) 12:29, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Users are allowed to do whatever they want with their own talk pages, since the messages are still in the history. That's perfectly legitimate, if a bit unusual. You can recommend they add a link to the archives, but you can't force them to. Jackmcbarn (talk) 14:30, 27 September 2013 (UTC)