User talk:Mitchhhutto

Speedy deletion of Bryan r. owens
A tag has been placed on Bryan r. owens requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for biographies.

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 * Since it seems likely that Bryan r. owens will be deleted in the very near future, and I note that it's been suggested that you have further information to add, if for some reason you need to retrieve the content of the deleted article, you can leave me a note. I'm sorry that our policies don't allow us to work within your suggested 30-day limit.  If you have any questions, I'll try to answer them.  Accounting4Taste: talk 17:12, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I forgot to mention that you might want to specifically investigate the criteria for notability of an individual.  As I understand it, you're suggesting that Mr. Owens is notable because of the activities of the unit of the armed forces which he commands.  Our notability policies, as I understand them, suggest that Mr. Owens should be notable in and of himself.  It may be that the specific armed forces unit is notable where Mr. Owens might not be, and that possibility might be something you would wish to investigate.  Again, if you have questions, you can leave me a note.  Accounting4Taste: talk 17:15, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Is any commander notable by himself? I would think that any commander of a military unit is only notable beause of what was accomplished by his unit during the time he commanded it. Commanders very seldomly do things, by themselves, that is outstanding or great, other than lead a unit that does great things.--Mitchhhutto (talk) 17:22, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
 * You seem to have grasped the point I was trying to make. What would be required, then, is evidence that Mr. Owens has done something by himself that is outstanding or great -- for instance, that an external expert thinks that the way he commanded the unit was superior to the way other individuals commanded other units.  If you have further questions, I'm at your service.  Accounting4Taste: talk 17:31, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
 * No, you've more than made the point. I'll just edit the 505th Page to include info about him. That should be more appropriate, since it will be adding to the content of a notable military unit's history. Thanks.--Mitchhhutto (talk) 17:33, 24 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I've moved the material into an appropriate place for it -- User:Mitchhhutto/Sandbox -- and removed the speedy deletion tags, which would have caused the material to be re-examined by administrators like myself who were looking to delete it. If you don't require this material any further, or if there's something further I can do to assist you, let me know.  Accounting4Taste: talk 17:35, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
 * To explain a little further -- because material on the User:Mitchhhutto should be about you, not Mr. Owens. We use sandbox pages here to work on material.  Accounting4Taste: talk 17:35, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

One further suggestion -- if you wanted to make a page for Mr. Owens that was substantially like the material at Melvin Zais, that would be appropriate information for Wikipedia, if Mr. Owens was similarly decorated. I hope we have helped you structure your contributions -- we try to make the learning curve for new contributors as easy as possible, but I admit it can be daunting. If you ever have any questions or require any assistance, I'm at your service. Accounting4Taste: talk 17:41, 24 April 2008 (UTC)