User talk:MitranaSage

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Renewable Water (October 15)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Robert McClenon was:

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Robert McClenon (talk) 14:35, 15 October 2021 (UTC)

Comments on AFC Decline
You wrote: 'Thanks for the feedback, Honestly I am quite new to Wikipedia editing and content creation - because the review process generally takes a long time I misguidedly thought that the sooner I submitted the page for review, the sooner it would get through the process, but that in the meantime I could keep working on the draft. Hence I had submitted a pretty rough first draft that I was then going to redraft with better references and in a better style. In future I will make sure that pages are submitted in their final form unless they require just some minor edits or additional references.'


 * User:MitranaSage - It is true that you can continue working on a draft while it is waiting for review. Sometimes a draft gets reviewed quickly; sometimes it doesn't.  You don't need more references.  In fact, it may be difficult for a reviewer to review because it has too many references, so I suggest that you identify which of the references are the most important.  Identify at least three and not more than five as the key references, and list them in an AFC comment, or on the talk page.  However, the real problem is style.  Your draft is written more as an expression of your opinions than the opinions of reliable sources.  I declined it for style, not for sourcing.  I didn't check the sources, because I don't check 40 sources.  Robert McClenon (talk) 14:35, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Bio-dredging (December 8)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Clearfrienda was:

The comment the reviewer left was:

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Clear friend  a  💬  00:41, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Lake Rogerene has been accepted
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Thanks again, and happy editing! Rusalkii (talk) 21:43, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

== Your submission at Articles for creation: Ecological Infrastructure for Water Security project (December 22) ==  Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by TheBirdsShedTears was:

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TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 06:16, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Ecological Infrastructure (December 28)
 Your recent article submission has been rejected. If you have further questions, you can ask at the [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&preload=Template:AfC_decline/HD_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=Draft:Ecological_Infrastructure Articles for creation help desk] or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help. The reasons left by FeralOink were: This topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia. This submission is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia. The comment the reviewer left was: Ecological infrastructure appears to be a non-notable neologism that is almost identical in meaning to Green infrastructure. Although you attempt to distinguish between them (green is urban, eco is natural) in the lead, many of the examples given in this draft are urban or otherwise indistinguishable from green infrastructure. Similarly, wastewater treatment facilities (which the draft depicts as harmful due to byproducts and excessive eutrophication) are in fact a form of biotechnology which the draft otherwise praises as a more nature-based solution, but without any specifics of implementation to make it be so.

I recommend merging a much abbreviated version of Ecological Infrastructure into the current Green technology article.

Also, this draft reads more like a public policy proposal or essay than an encyclopedia article. There is advocacy for at least two projects, Payment for ecosystem services and Ecological Infrastructure for Water Security. Many of the sources are to "ecosystems services" proponents (see last reference 54, titled "Ecosystem Services... A Case for Investment") as well as biodiversityadvisor.sanbi.org (the sponsor for Eco Infrastructure for Water Security) and opinion pieces (e.g. Current Opinion in Environmental Sustainability). Please observe WP:NPOV. If Ecological Infrastructure exists only or primarily as specific public policy or other project of one nation or a small group of adjacent nations, then it may not be suitable for Wikipedia.

FeralOink (talk) 08:00, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

Comments on AFC Decline of Ecological Infrastructure

 * User:MitranaSage, it may be helpful to consider this portion of the recommendations provided to you by Robert McClenon in the context of this AFC submission too:

"You don't need more references. In fact, it may be difficult for a reviewer to review because it has too many references, so I suggest that you identify which of the references are the most important. Identify at least three key references but not more than five, and list them in an AFC comment, or on the talk page."


 * As I mentioned in the AFC decline comment, I am concerned about the article style (re advocacy) AND sources. However, it may be the case that of the 54 references provided, there are three to five which are WP:NPOV and WP:RS but were not apparent due to there being so many, some only peripherally about the subject of the draft. If you decide to expand Green Infrastructure to include a section on Ecological Infrastructure, please keep these suggestions in mind for that as well.--FeralOink (talk) 08:20, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Writing for Wikipedia is different from writing for a magazine, a newsletter, or an op-ed page. I took a very brief look at Draft:Ecological Infrastructure, and I think that it has the same stylistic problems as Draft:Renewable Water, and I agree with User:FeralOink. Some editors think that including more sources is the key to getting an article accepted.  It sometimes is, but it more often isn't.  If either the topic is non-notable or the style is non-neutral, more references will not help, and even will annoy the reviewers.  Your topics are notable and your style is non-neutral.  Please work on the style, because some of your topics appear to be notable.  Robert McClenon (talk) 17:29, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Renewable Water (December 29)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Robert McClenon was:

The comment the reviewer left was:

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Robert McClenon (talk) 02:54, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

== Your submission at Articles for creation: Ecological Infrastructure for Water Security project (February 11) ==  Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Devonian Wombat was:

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Devonian Wombat (talk) 12:36, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 15:01, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

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Your draft article, Draft:Renewable Water


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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. ✗ plicit  03:35, 29 June 2022 (UTC)

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Your draft article, Draft:Ecological Infrastructure for Water Security project


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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! Hey man im josh (talk) 15:41, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Renewable Water


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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 00:21, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Bio-dredging


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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 00:22, 30 December 2022 (UTC)