User talk:Miyagawa/Archive 18

WikiCup announcements. NOT.
I don't think it appropriate for you to spam WikiCup announcements to WikiProjectss. Most of the other messages spammed to WikiProjects either related to WikiProject management in general or to tools available to WikiProjects. In other words, I don't see how the WikiCup assists WikiProjects, or how WikiProjects should assist the WikiCup. If you cannot explain reasoning why they should be there, please do not do it again, and, if possible, try to remove the sections you've spammed. The only reason I haven't removed it from two of the WikiProjects I'm active in is that my bandwidth or connection time is limited, and WP:UNDO doesn't work on large pages, such as WikiProject talk pages. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 04:08, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your opinion. Those notices were deliberately posted to the WikiProjects whose subjects have featured heavily in the WikiCup over the years as well as several highly active projects who have been under represented in an attempt to work against systematic bias in the production of featured content. I see the WikiCup assisting WikiProjects by providing an means of encouragement to editors to enter into content creation/improvement as well as a sense of achievement to those editors, which in turn encourages retention. There was no intention to cause offence, and while it may seem like spamming because of these targetted posts in some areas (particulary the sciences), I never sought to add these notices to all Projects or even what can been seen as a majority of them. Miyagawa (talk) 11:32, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

Happy New Year Miyagawa!


Happy New Year! Miyagawa, Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia. NorthAmerica1000 13:47, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

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Your GA nomination of Star Trek (2013 video game)
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Star Trek (2013 video game) you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of David Fuchs -- David Fuchs (talk) 16:21, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Hey, just pinging you that I've completed an initial review on the GA page. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk ) 16:06, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I've been away with work so haven't had a chance to edit, but I did read the review. I intend to give it a thorough copyedit over the weekend. Miyagawa (talk) 19:08, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

Osama bin Laden (elephant)
Would you take a look at the red link for the location in the infobox. This is the kind of compulsive question that someone at DYK will get hung up about. Thanks. Happy New Year! 7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 17:19, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Wikicup: What the fuck?!
What the fuick are you even thinking? You ignored all discussion, you ignored the vote going against what you implemented, you pulled a one FP per article rule out of your ass, with no discussion whatsoever on it...

This is a travesty. I'm seriously considering nominating the Wikicup for WP:MFD over this, because it seems to be more divisive than helpful now. Adam Cuerden (talk) 18:30, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Adam, let me be clear. J and Ed put up with a lot of stuff from you last year. I am far less inclined. While I have no issue whatsoever with you posting your views on the Cup talk page, a personal attack such as this on my talk page will not be tolerated and will result in you being kicked out of the Cup if it is repeated. Miyagawa (talk) 20:31, 2 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Look, let me put this bluntly, but more politely. I am very, very upset that you ignored pretty much every consensus actually reached about FPs. And I cannot see any merit or consensus in any of your changes: the bonus scheme is ruined by changing the hard-won agreement on the base to start the bonus scheme from from 30 to 20. People voted 4:1 to keep sets from being devalued; you added rules to state one image per article can get points, apparently not knowing, or just ignoring, what a set was - a set of images, usually from a single article.
 * Nergaal, I, and others spent most of a month trying to create a compromise on FPs that all of us were happy with. And this was ignored. The only thing implemented in it was the bonus scheme, which was meant to soften the blow of a reduction of base and set FP points by keeping the most valuable images at or even above the old value. Instead, only a tiny, tiny, TINY proportion of images will even come close to the old value.
 * Hell, the one FP per article rule isn't even enforceable in any but the most trivial cases: If image A is in articles 1, 2, and 3, and image B in articles 2 and 3, does B get points? Propagate that question over all possible and extremely common possibilities, and see if you can still get a sensible rule out of it.
 * I hope this makes my objections and upset clear, and explains my annoyance. Adam Cuerden (talk) 21:11, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
 * How about let's keep this on the WikiCup page, where everyone can see the discussions, eh? -- Amaryllis Gardener  talk 21:34, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Copied over. Adam Cuerden (talk) 21:39, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

WikiCup 2015 launch newsletter
Round one of the 2015 WikiCup has begun! So far we've had around 80 signups, which close on February 5. If you have not already signed up and want to do so, then you can add your name here. There have been changes to to several of the points scores for various categories, and the addition of Peer Reviews for the first time. These will work in the same manner as Good Article Reviews, and all of the changes are summarised here.

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Your GA nomination of Captive Pursuit
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Your GA nomination of Half a Life (Star Trek: The Next Generation)
The article Half a Life (Star Trek: The Next Generation) you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Half a Life (Star Trek: The Next Generation) for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Viriditas -- Viriditas (talk) 11:01, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Lolani
Hello! Your submission of Lolani at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! G S Palmer (talk • contribs) 19:59, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Katherine Pulaski
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Your GA nomination of Q-Less
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Books and Bytes - Issue 9
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Your GA nomination of Daedalus (Star Trek: Enterprise)
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Your GA nomination of The Survivor (Star Trek: The Animated Series)
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Re: Morality play

 * As above, it's unusual for a TNG episode to be a blatent morality play (although I think that the show works best when they are).

Heh. I'm not going to give up so easily. :-) I just ran across this Brannon Braga quote you might like: "Every episode and movie of Star Trek is a morality tale in which human beings find solutions to conflict through enlightenment and reason. Through science. Through wit and intellect. Through a belief in our potential as animals that can supercede our baser instincts." Viriditas (talk) 06:54, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I'd argue that certainly Voyager and Enterprise wandered off from the morality play trail quite a few times - although I think that DS9 was chock full of them. Miyagawa (talk) 09:16, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't know if that's true about Voyager, but yes, something changed with Enterprise. Although I certainly enjoyed Enterprise, the pacing, editing, and direction was "off" compared to earlier Trek shows, and somewhere along the line, the important aspects of the morality play got lost or subsumed into less important aspects of the narrative.  To me, at least, I felt like their wonderful cast was held back and prevented from being truly great.  I noticed there were serious problems with the dialogue, for example, in Daedalus.  So perhaps the writing is to blame. Viriditas (talk) 19:47, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
 * There was a lot of crappy studio involvement in Enterprise. For starters the entire premise of the first season was changed (although I don't know if it was for the better or worse), then they started trying to shoehorn awful ideas in - there was a running thing about they wanted bands to be able to appear via a holodeck of some sorts in order to attract younger viewers (I wish I was kidding). There was an improvement in seasons three and four, but season two killed the show. If you want to watch some awful Trek, pick some random episodes from there. But some episodes are tremedous on Enterprise - Manny Coto's first writing job is a stand out for me - make sure you watch "Similitude" at some point. Miyagawa (talk) 12:54, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Q-Less
The article Q-Less you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Q-Less for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Viriditas -- Viriditas (talk) 10:41, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of The Survivor (Star Trek: The Animated Series)
The article The Survivor (Star Trek: The Animated Series) you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold. The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:The Survivor (Star Trek: The Animated Series) for things which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Seattle -- Seattle (talk) 07:00, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Lolani
The DYK project (nominate) 08:44, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

Submissions
When do you check submissiions for WikiCup. Because I have a submission and my points total isn't updated. Yoshi24517 Chat Absent 18:09, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
 * It would be automatically added to the table based by the bot. However, I'm afraid that since the review hasn't yet been closed then the review isn't valid for points. Additionally, it falls foul of the very short rule based on the section you added - so it wouldn't count even if it had been closed already. Miyagawa (talk) 21:37, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Just a quick question. Isn't it supposed to be 1000 bytes though? Yoshi24517 Chat  Absent 21:57, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
 * The scoring guidelines state "As a rough guide, no review shorter than 1000 bytes will be considered, though the judges reserve the right to remove other short reviews. This is not to say that such short reviews are not worthwhile, it is merely to say that they will not be recognised in this competition." The paragraph you added to the review was just over a thousand, but your second edit appeared to be padding to take it over the 1000 limit. That's just my personal opinion. Miyagawa (talk) 22:03, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Katherine Pulaski
The article Katherine Pulaski you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold. The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Katherine Pulaski for things which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Viriditas -- Viriditas (talk) 23:20, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Fred Phillips (makeup artist)
The DYK project (nominate) 09:14, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of The Survivor (Star Trek: The Animated Series)
The article The Survivor (Star Trek: The Animated Series) you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:The Survivor (Star Trek: The Animated Series) for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Seattle -- Seattle (talk) 20:21, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

WP:PALon Collaboration of the Month
Hi Miyagawa, is there anything you can add to Victoria Memorial, London with your access to news archives? Best, Ham II (talk) 10:51, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
 * No problem, will do - and I'll stick collaboration page on my watchlist too. Miyagawa (talk) 12:02, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Wow, that was quick! Thank you so much! Ham II (talk) 13:35, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

WikiCup
Hi, can I submit this one at here? Regards, --Khadar Khani (talk) 15:34, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
 * If it'd been nominated in 2015 then there wouldn't be a problem as you did enough work on it to say it's significant (anyone who says that formatting tables isn't significant needs to try it!!). However the scoring rules state "Content must have been worked on and nominated during the competition" - which means the nomination needed to happen during 2015 in order to qualify I'm afraid. Miyagawa (talk) 16:01, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
 * This was nominated on 9 December 2014, but promoted on 18 January 2015! --Khadar Khani (talk) 16:34, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Exactly, according to the rules, the nomination needs to take place during one of the cup rounds for that year. The promotion can then happen in any round (i.e. you could nominate in round 3 and not be promoted to round 5 and then claim in the points in round 5). As it was nominated on 9 December 2014, the FL wasn't nominated during the 2015 cup as that didn't start until 1 January 2015. Miyagawa (talk) 16:56, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

São Tomé and Príncipe at the 2012 Summer Olympics
I noticed that you removed São Tomé and Príncipe at the 2012 Summer Olympics from my good article submissions in the WikiCup. Fair enough, as I forgot that I did the work in late December. Got a bit of a question however. You see, I submitted this article as a Did You Know candidate and it passed. Will this count considering I submitted this as a candidate in 2015? good888 (talk) 14:17, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
 * DYKs based on Good Article promotion (which was the category on Template:Did you know nominations/São Tomé and Príncipe at the 2012 Summer Olympics) aren't eligible for points in the cup. Miyagawa (talk) 15:00, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh, OK. Thanks for the reply. good888 (talk) 15:57, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

DYK for René Echevarria
— Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:30, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Guidance on content for Wikicup 2015
Hello,

I am bit new to the Wikicup, but very much interested and excited about this. I am still trying to figure out if any of my contributions (which you deleted from my submission list WikiCup/History/2015/Submissions/Vishal0soni actually hold some place across the various listed categories (if not in GAR & PR). Or if you could provide some guidance on approaching towards some good content valid for this contest, that would be helpful. Thanks, Vishal0soni (talk) 07:42, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Ok. Well the WikiCup is generally geared towards promoting recognised content. So while for example, you wouldn't get any points for creating a new article - if you then took that article through the Did You Know process, then you could gain points for that. Likewise, if that article meets the requirements for a Good Article and is then reviewed by another user as meeting those requirements, then again points can be gained. The Peer Reviews are based on reviewing articles where a user has requested a review at Peer review. I hope this helps, a full summary is covered at the WikiCup/Scoring page. Miyagawa (talk) 12:47, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CVI, January 2015
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Help requested for GA review of Sunil Kumar Verma
Dear thanks for your help for my recent DYK nomination! Hope it would go ahead! May I also seek your help to review my another article (this) that is currently nominated for GA (See here). Regards. Educationtemple (talk) 16:32, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Katherine Pulaski
The article Katherine Pulaski you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Katherine Pulaski for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Viriditas -- Viriditas (talk) 06:41, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Carpenter Street (Star Trek: Enterprise)
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Carpenter Street (Star Trek: Enterprise) you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of 23W -- 23W (talk) 06:20, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Star Trek: The God Thing
Harrias talk 12:02, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Star Trek (2013 video game)
The article Star Trek (2013 video game) you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Star Trek (2013 video game) for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of David Fuchs -- David Fuchs (talk) 03:41, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

GA Cup - The Finals
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WikiCup Results
Thank you for your written note. However, I did not receive any points for my reviews... I ask about the reasons for that. Yours Sincerely, --Csisc (talk) 11:26, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
 * It's not just you - there hasn't been a bot based update since the 28th. I've emailed the owner to give it a poke. Miyagawa (talk) 18:46, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Carpenter Street (Star Trek: Enterprise)
The article Carpenter Street (Star Trek: Enterprise) you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold. The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Carpenter Street (Star Trek: Enterprise) for things which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of 23W -- 23W (talk) 09:41, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Carpenter Street (Star Trek: Enterprise)
The article Carpenter Street (Star Trek: Enterprise) you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Carpenter Street (Star Trek: Enterprise) for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of 23W -- 23W (talk) 19:41, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Web of the Romulans
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 2 February 2015 (UTC)