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Nomination for deletion of Template:Coast Rail Corridor
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Proposed deletion of Park Presidio Boulevard


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Your draft article, Draft:49 Van Ness/Mission


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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Future Los Angeles Metro Busway stations


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Concern regarding Draft:Proposed new Amtrak station in Madison
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CS1 error on Golden State (train)
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Your draft article, Draft:Proposed new Amtrak station in Madison


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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Railway stations scheduled to open in 2033


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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:2033 in rail transport


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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:2033 in transport


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I have sent you a note about a page you started
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Former stations
On both enwiki and Commons, we use "former" categories to distinguish active stations from former stations. For railroads that don't have current passenger service, we only have Category:Former X stations and not Category:X stations. Why should KCS be the exception? Pi.1415926535 (talk) 06:26, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

What he said; the stations haven't been "current" KCS stations in fifty years. The CPKC merger doesn't affect this. Mackensen (talk) 11:26, 11 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Hey, this was the most populated category containing KCS stations. Go ahead and change the category name if you want, but change it in every article if you do. -MJ (talk) 21:31, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Okay, I've moved all of them to the "former" category. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 22:45, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

Draft:BLIND PEOPLE WHO CAN'T WAIK
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 * And the same goes for Draft:Boys are smarter then girls and Draft:Emerald the 14th planet of the milky way galaxy on the other side of darkness. Please be a courteous editor and inform your other editors that their page creations will be deleted and the reason why. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 03:12, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

WP:G11
While I appreciate your trying to help, you are mistagging drafts. Please review the CSD criteria. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 09:49, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

RDT conversions
Why are you converting RDTs that used without problem to use  instead? I cannot find any discussion on the matter either on the talkpages of the templates concerned, at WT:RDT, WT:RAIL or WT:UKRAIL. Besides being undiscussed, your changes are completely unnecessary, and moreover the cryptic syntax (which is not used anywhere else) makes the RDT almost unmaintainable. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 16:20, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

The last RfC was seven years ago; it's probably time to revisit that. I note that in the intervening years and  were deprecated and deleted, and BS-map has half as many transclusions. Mackensen (talk) 20:53, 22 July 2023 (UTC)


 * deprecated templates are deprecated. BS-map is bulky and much less flexible than routemaps. WP:BEBOLD -MJ (talk) 06:22, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
 * wait, cryptic syntax? are you joking? BS-map syntax is one of the more confusing things on this site. Template:Routemap is used in over 22,000 pages - hardly "not used anywhere else" as you claim. -MJ (talk) 06:26, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Where is deprecated? The  syntax is cryptic because all those double-tildes and backslashes are only used in that template, not used anywhere else in the whole of Wikipedia. They are an invention purely for that template, and I have always had immense difficulty working out how the appearance that I want should be written in that totally unintuitive syntax.
 * BS-map is hardly confusing, it uses uses straight Wikicode markup. If you can't handle that markup, you shouldn't be messing with templates at all.
 * The icons I can handle, they are the same in both templates, and are not difficult because to show e.g. File:BSicon HST.svg, I simply omit the  and the   leaving   These codes are catalogued in detail in a number of pages, here and on Commons. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 17:07, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I have always had immense difficulty working out how the appearance that I want should be written in that totally unintuitive syntax. Personally, I was always at risk getting lost in the many pipes of BS-map and found I greatly preferred how Routemap does it, especially with the clear distinction between separating icons (backslashes) and separating text (tildes). Not having to change the numbered BS templates every time the width changed is also a plus in my book.
 * I sympathize that you've have difficulty mastering the syntax. I (and I suspect others) are willing to help you master it, if you're open to that approach. Maintaining a separate set of templates (with known issues) indefinitely isn't a sustainable approach. Mackensen (talk) 17:35, 23 July 2023 (UTC)

Royal Blue
Hi, I was referring only to the harvnb template, which requires multiple authors if they are listed in the associated citation. So this is correct: harvnb|Baxter|Adams|1999|p=55 Andy02124 (talk) 16:49, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

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Nomination for deletion of Template:Attached KML/East San Fernando Valley Light Rail Transit
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CS1 error on Georgia Cannonball
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Trains operating on A-day
FYI, I also have a draft I'm working on occasionally: User:Pi.1415926535/A-Day trains. Best, Pi.1415926535 (talk) 19:03, 21 August 2023 (UTC)


 * I did some preliminary searches to see if there was a similar page somewhere, but I guess you just narrowly avoided me. It was informative to just put it all together. The problem I was contemplating going forward was how to denote that stuff like the City of Los Angeles was a the same train (from the perspective of a rider, which I think is an appropriate way to interpret what the "service" was) just operated by a different company along its route. -MJ (talk) 21:36, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Yeah, even reliable sources differ as to the number of "trains" operated immediately before A-Day. That's complicated by the multi-operator through trains you mention, as well as trains that operated 1, 2, 3, or 6 days a week. 366 is thrown about pretty often, while Edmonson's count that you cite is rather higher. I'll let you know when I get the list complete enough for a move to mainspace. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 22:44, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
 * IIRC, Thoms has an extensive list too. Mackensen (talk) 22:50, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I think the actual number is less important than just explaining the operation and fates of these routes. As we've seen in the List of Eligible... Talkpage, even pretty concise lists seem to leave out things like the CWR Skunk. -MJ (talk) 23:22, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
 * It's a problem; I've yet to see a source that addresses the non-Class Is except fleetingly (like Thoms). RPSA 1970 didn't say as much, but I think it was understood that the law was only dealing with the Class Is. Even then, it was up to them to decide if their services were intercity or suburban. Flipping through the 1972 Guide, I see plenty of railroads offering tourist/local/mixed services. None of the "Service before A-Day" sources I've seen include the non-Class Is in the list. Mackensen (talk) 00:15, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

PE Edendale Local Line
Hi,

Did this route served more stops than the Glendale–Burbank along their shared route ?

Arflhn (talk) 08:42, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

CS1 error on Market–Frankford Line
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inflation template how-to
You make a good point with this edit, and I'd like to do the same the next time I add the inflation template to an article. Did you add manually in source, or did you replace the entire template with some option turned on? PRRfan (talk) 16:18, 27 December 2023 (UTC)


 * I replaced it manually in source. MJ (talk) 18:07, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Tempate:F Line (Key System)


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Overhaul of California High-Speed Rail
Hi MJ, on the talk page of the CAHSR article you called this article a "dumpster fire", and several of us agree. There is currently a collaborative effort going on to put out the fire. As it has been burning for quite a while, we see little hope in reconstructive surgery, so we are more or less building a new dumpster. Given that you recently edited a related subarticle, I wanted to invite you to have a look at the discussion/proposals. See article talk page and the work-in-progress. DracaenaGuianensis (talk) 02:29, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

Route diagram template request?
Hi! I've noticed the great work you've done with creating route diagram templates for rapid transit and light rail systems. Hopefully this doesn't come off as disrespectful, but would you be willing to create a unified one including all three lines for the Vancouver SkyTrain by any chance? You're obviously way more proficient at this than I am, I've never created one completely from scratch before, let alone one for an entire rapid transit system, haha. If not, that's totally fine! I understand if you're busy with other projects on here or real life stuff. I just figured that the system was missing one. While there is already one but with all of the major routes of TransLink, and technically it could be repurposed in some form for this new template, the geometry of the system is not really shown in detail in order to fit everything on that diagram. Please let me know what you think! Thank you! OrdinaryScarlett (talk) 06:38, 19 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Happy to oblige. I'll probably be able to get around to this in the next week or so. -MJ (talk) 05:29, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much! On the other hand, I've noted your work on Template:Los Angeles Metro Rail lines. How would you feel about the inclusion of the maintenance and storage facilities on that particular diagram? (I also included them on each individual line template too, along with the LAX APM and the Harbor Sub ones if you wanted to give it a quick check!) OrdinaryScarlett (talk) 07:34, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

Here's this Template:SkyTrain (Vancouver) -MJ (talk) 03:39, 22 April 2024 (UTC)


 * It’s perfect! Thank you so much! OrdinaryScarlett (talk) 03:40, 22 April 2024 (UTC)


 * the only think i'm not happy with is the connector blob for the new Broadway–City Hall interchange, but that can get sorted before 2026. -MJ (talk) 03:51, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

Input requested
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Nomination for deletion of Template:4 Line (Sound Transit)
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PREMO light rail moved to draftspace
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Nomination for deletion of Template:North San Fernando Valley Transit Corridor
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Template:Oregon Electric Railway
Hello! Is there any reason not to place this template in Oregon Electric Railway? It looks pretty good to me. Valfontis (talk) 07:35, 8 July 2024 (UTC)


 * it already is - it's viewable from the infobox. -MJ (talk) 14:53, 8 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Oh oops, thanks. Many rail articles have them permanently expanded so I missed that. Do you happen to have a favorite source for the OE besides the Arcadia Press book? I'm surprised there doesn't seem to be a book specific to OE. I just found my Arcadia book on the Oregonian Railway and just got a pile of SP books, but I'm not sure I have the Willamette Valley Railways one. Anyway, thanks for making the route map! Valfontis (talk) 16:44, 8 July 2024 (UTC)


 * I mostly refer to old company timetables or maps to get some of the finer details, which can be found a lot on the webs. -MJ (talk) 17:31, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Volume 3 of Donald B. Robertson's Encyclopedia of Western Railroad History is a good starting point for all railroads in Oregon. Mackensen (talk) 21:54, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Cool, thanks! Valfontis (talk) 23:31, 8 July 2024 (UTC)