User talk:Mjpfx

Your submission at Articles for creation: Trackit (October 31)
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Your submission at Articles for creation: Trackit (October 31)
 Thank you for your recent submission to Articles for Creation. Your article submission has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. Please view your submission to see the comments left by the reviewer. You are welcome to edit the submission to address the issues raised, and resubmit if you feel they have been resolved.
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Re:Sources
I declined your article because it had no references other than the company website and its LinkedIn page. Those are not reliable sources per Wikipedia standards. To establish notability, an article needs reliable sources that are independent of the subject and are about it. For example, has the company had substantial coverage in media such as a local or national newspaper or major magazines? That is the kind of reference you want to include when writing an article about the company. You'll want to read Notability (organizations and companies) to get a good idea about what we look for in articles about companies and organizations. Lugia2453 (talk) 18:35, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

Similar company names
I was following a discussion on another editor's talk page about your recent AFC submission in which you have a conflict of interest.

Imagine if I was a somewhat-well-known company in America called Davidwr Widgets. Now suppose some other company in some other country were named Davidwr Thingies. Suppose that country had significant press coverage and it got a Wikipedia article and as a result it was interfering with the efforts of my marketing department. Would that be a problem for me? Probably. What remedy would I have? Unless we were competing in each other's territory, probably none. If we were competing in each territory, I might be able to use trademark law to force them to use another name in that territory, or if they were there first, I might have to use another name. In neither case would I have a remedy within Wikipedia.

Now, if my company is notable enough to have an article, then maybe someone not connected with the company will create one or I might submit a proposed article through AFC. But any AFC submission will only be approved if the company is notable, if the submission clearly demonstrates the notability of the company, and if the tone of the submission is clearly neutral (see WP:GNG, WP:CORP, WP:TONE, WP:Citing sources, and WP:NOT for details). If confusion still happened once both articles exist, I might have the remedy of asking that a distinguish hat-note be added to the top of both pages.

As the other editor said, Wikipedia articles exist to benefit Wikipedia, not to benefit the subjects of the articles. davidwr/ (talk)/(contribs)  20:25, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

okay, here is some help for you, and for the confused readers of wikipedia
Hello, you can call me 74, think of it as my jersey-number. Here is what you need to accomplish. Step Zero. You do NOT want to submit your company here -- Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Trackit -- to create an article *about* your company. That will come later, when your work has been covered in multiple newspapers / industry trade rags / teevee shows / academia / whatever. In the meantime, keep a press-clippings scrapbook, when your company or your product gets a mention in some Reliable Source by wikipedia standards.

Step One. What you DO want to do, right now, is much simpler: find *one* reliable source that mentions your company-name, or your eponymous-product-name. The four I found are below. Are any of them you? The second one is only very borderline-reliable, unless you actually won the bid, unfortunately. Have you ever been mentioned in Computer Asset Tracking Magazine For CIOs, or something like that? It can be a webzine, or a printed magazine, as long as it has a professional editorial department of some sort. You mentioned that your product was mentioned, at some point... do you mean your *specific* product, or do you mean asset tracking solutions in general? It has to be specifically about you.

Here is a mention of TrackIt Corp, which sells laptop-anti-theft-hardware. This qualifies them as WP:NOTEWORTHY... not enough to have their own article, but enough to get a brief mention in a related article, such as Laptop theft.

Here is your company (right?) getting mentioned by a reliable source, a government client. The PDF content is WP:SELFPUB, but the fact that this sub-branch of the UK govt accepted your bid, *might* be Noteworthy. Was this an *open* bid, anybody can submit an RFP, or was there some level of pre-qualification criterion, before this bid was considered? Also, did you *win* the bid?

Here is a seemingly-similar company (yours?) getting profiled by Bloomberg. Is this TrackitSystemsLtd the same legal entity as your own TrackitSolutionsLtd?

Here is a company in 1997 that sold something to the government. They are only identified as "TrackIt" but they seem to be in your line of business... is this your company?

Step Two. Anyways, once we have at least one solid reliable source that mentions your or your eponymous-product (at least in passing), then you can ask Julie and David (or ask at WP:TEAHOUSE if they are not available) for help getting this useful-to-the-reader-disambiguation-link put into the top of the article about the Dubai company:

I've used the bloomberg quote, but I'm not sure that is actually you! Replace it with another WP:NOTEWORTHY mention of your company-or-product, in a Reliable Source, and you should be fine. ✅

p.s. Note that you should NOT -- although it DOES seem the obvious common sense thing to do -- request that wikipedia link to your corporate homepage, or mention your product-name. That's only done in articles about *your* company, generally speaking, see the keep-a-scrapbook advice above. Still, the mention of "IT asset auditing" will be enough for customers to find you by googling, and more importantly for the sake of wikipedia readers that might be confused, to distinguish your UK/USA firm from the "RFID-based vehicle monitoring" place in Dubai.

p.p.s. Hope this helps, message me on my talkpage if you have questions, or get stuck. Thanks for improving wikipedia, sorry about our sometimes-nutty RULZ UV DAH WIKIVERZ, good luck. 74.192.84.101 (talk) 16:26, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

Your draft article, Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Trackit


Hello Mjpfx. It has been over six months since you last edited your WP:AFC draft article submission, entitled "Trackit".

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. JMHamo (talk) 20:55, 11 May 2014 (UTC)