User talk:Mjvande

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I realise you are probably the author of this and the two other articles you posted. Please note: I suggest you spend some time reading what is already on wikipedia in this area of ecology and make contributions to existing articles. -- RHaworth 20:06, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
 * we do not put Capitals in Article Titles in the Way that You do
 * copy and paste is an insult to Wikipedia - we want articles written for the encyclopedia
 * your articles violate the NPOV and NOR policies.

Most encouraging, you seem to reading my mind! Although simply posting external links is almost as much vanity as posting the articles. But you are at least moving in the right direction. -- RHaworth 20:09, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

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The topic "The Environmental Impacts of Mountain Biking" in the "mountain biking" article is pure partisan BS. Every time I try to correct it, my edits get reverted, without any discussion. I don't know who wrote it & reverted my edits, but I am the world expert on this topic. It shouldn't be written by someone who is actively engaged in promoting mountain biking. The link to IMBA's website is the clue that the article is pure propaganda. How can I get this fixed?

Mike Vandeman

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POV edits and spam linking
Hi Mjvande,

Whilst I might sympathise with your point of view, most of your edits appear to the pushing a particular point of view with respect to the human impact on the natural habitat. In general Wikipedia strives to present a Neutral Point of View - see WP:NPOV. Also linking to your own web site, or linking to any particular web site indescriminately is considered spam linking - see spam. In order to get these sorts of views accepted, you probably need to do it in terms of cited quotations. -- Solipsist 22:51, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

You really shouldn`t touch material that you don`t understand!!!!! It is absurd to assume that the existing articles are unbiased, and my information is biased. In fact, I am correcting existing errors and biases. I am linking to my website because the information exists NOWHERE ELSE. If it were published, I could cite it, but because I am on the cutting edge of certain areas of study, there is nothing to cite. Your assumption that published sources are superior to unpublished sources is itself an enormous bias. Please restore what you removed, and in the future, stick to editing material that you know something about I am really disappointed in the quality of Wikipedia, which has great potential! But it is dominated by people pushing their own agendas, while claiming to be unbiased. A good example is the mountain biking article, which is pure pro-mountain biking propaganda. Whenever I try to correct it, my edits are erased without any comment. Why is this BS allowed, but efforts to correct it are not? -- Mike Vandeman
 * Hi Mike,
 * Thanks for replying and proving a link back to the earlier discussion - otherwise I might have been confused by your comments. As I say, I'm sympathetic to your point of view, and infact we often encourage a countering point of view in articles - it is just necessary to go about it the right way, as described in Describing points of view.
 * There are many articles on Wikipedia that are far more controversial than mountain biking so we are well used to editors pushing a particular point of view which is why we have established procedures and policies to handle it.
 * The problem of errosion due to off-road biking, along with conflicts with hill walkers etc., is reasonably well known in the UK. Most particularly in Snowdonia and some other National parks. So much so that I believe there are now regualations and fines controlling the use of mountain bikes in some areas. Similarly AFIK, mountain bikes are banned from national parks in New Zealand and the USA.
 * So it should be possible to construct a more reasoned and researched section discussing the damage and problems caused by mountain biking - ideally including say a quotation (with cited source) showing what the official position on use the mountain bikes in various countries. This page doesn't look good enough to be a credible, citable source, but it probably contains enough clues to find a citable quotation on say the UK National Parks policy on mountain bikes.
 * Note however, we don't publish any new ideas. If, as you assert, the information you wish to include is only available on your own web site, that would be a problem. That comes under No original research, which is an official policy. Similarly we don't really want any links to external websites - we would much rather have all material contained within Wikipedia and published under GFDL. Editors linking to their own website is also a common problem and will frequently be reverted - as discussed under spam.
 * I hope that helps. I don't know whether you have spent much time reading through Wikipedia's Help pages. There is plenty of good advice there on the best way to edit articles. Drop me a note again if you need any more advice. -- Solipsist 14:17, 21 February 2006 (UTC)