User talk:Mk91552

Introduction to contentious topics
- gadfium 09:39, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

April 2023
Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Georgina Beyer, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear to be constructive and has been reverted. If you only meant to make a test edit, please use your sandbox for that. Please review MOS:GENDERID for more information on Wikipedia guidelines on presenting information on transgender people. —C.Fred (talk) 01:43, 16 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Mk91552, above, you were informed what it means to edit contentious topics. My suggestion is to you read MOS:GENDERID. And then you follow what that guideline says. You may not agree with what it says, but on Wikipedia you cannot step outside of what it says; not on a contentious topic. Break the rules again and you will be blocked from editing.  Schwede 66  09:08, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I did give a valid reason. Thank you Mk91552 (talk) 13:00, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

 You have been blocked from editing for a period of 1 week for editing contentious topic (gender-related) despite warning, as you did at Georgina Beyer‎. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page:.  Schwede 66  11:04, 16 April 2023 (UTC)


 * It was not a contentious edit. Female is a sex, not a gender. Ms Beyer, of whom I knew, was a trans woman. She was not female, however. So I think you should lift my ban and correct the mistake you seem insistent on keeping Mk91552 (talk) 10:01, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

Your recent editing history at Georgina Beyer shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war; read about how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing&mdash;especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring&mdash;even if you do not violate the three-revert rule&mdash;should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. --Pokelova (talk) 11:23, 24 April 2023 (UTC)


 * It's not contentious. It's an appropriate edit that conveys the facts. Tell me in what way was Georgina Beyer a female? Mk91552 (talk) 11:45, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Please see MOS:GENDERID and, by referential inclusion, Transphobia. "Female" exists in an overlap space where it can describe sex and also gender. In short, rather than just remove the descriptor, the article is better served to rewrite it. The AP Stylebook—yes, it's US-specific, but it's the resource I have access to—suggests "woman" as an adjective in these situations. I've offered that as a compromise. If you still reject that, you'll need to offer alternatives on the talk page. However, the original wording will go back in the article while it's discussed, on the basis of the cited source: The following year Georgina ran for the top job in the town and won, becoming the world’s first transsexual mayor, Carteron’s first female mayor and the first Māori mayor Wairarapa had ever seen.[emphasis added] —C.Fred (talk) 12:04, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I can accept that change in terminology, as it better reflects who Ms Beyer was. Have a good night Mk91552 (talk) 12:22, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

 You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for returning to the same hehaviour you were previously blocked for.- gadfium 19:06, 24 April 2023 (UTC). If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page:.

Unblocking

 * I cannot reject your unblock request but I can tell you that a WP:FREEDOMOFSPEECH argument is not going to get you anywhere. --Pokelova (talk) 11:09, 26 April 2023 (UTC)