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Medical Translation Newsletter

Issue 1, June/July 2014 by CFCF, Doc James

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This is the first of a series of newsletters for Wikiproject Medicine's Translation Task Force. Our goal is to make all the medical knowledge on Wikipedia available to the world, in the language of your choice. note: you will not receive future editions of this newsletter unless you *sign up*; you received this version because you identify as a member of WikiProject Medicine

Spotlight - Simplified article translation

Wikiproject Medicine started translating simplified articles in February 2014. We now have 45 simplified articles ready for translation, of which the first on African trypanosomiasis or sleeping sickness has been translated into 46 out of ~100 languages. This list does not include the 33 additional articles that are available in both full and simple versions.

Our goal is to eventually translate 1,000 simplified articles. This includes:
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There has previously been some resistance against translation into certain languages with strong Wikipedia presence, such as Dutch, Polish, and Swedish. What was found is that thre is hardly any negative opinion about the the project itself; and any such critique has focused on the ways that articles have being integrated. For an article to be usefully translated into a target-Wiki it needs to be properly Wiki-linked, carry proper citations and use the formatting of the chosen target language as well as being properly proof-read. Certain large Wikis such as the Polish and Dutch Wikis have strong traditions of medical content, with their own editorial system, own templates and different ideas about what constitutes a good medical article. For example, there are not MEDRS (Polish,German,Romanian,Persian) guidelines present on other Wikis, and some Wikis have a stronger background of country-specific content.
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 * Swedish Translation into Swedish has been difficult in part because of the amount of free, high quality sources out there already: patient info, for professionals. The same can be said for English, but has really given us all the more reason to try and create an unbiased and free encyclopedia of medical content. We want Wikipedia to act as an alternative to commercial sources, and preferably a really good one at that. Through extensive collaborative work and by respecting links and Sweden specific content the last unintegrated Swedish translation went live in May.
 * Dutch Dutch translation carries with it special difficulties, in part due to the premises in which the Dutch Wikipedia is built upon. There is great respect for what previous editors have created, and deleting or replacing old content can be frowned upon. In spite of this there are success stories: Anafylaxie.
 * Polish Translation and integration into Polish also comes with its own unique set of challenges. The Polish Wikipedia has long been independent and works very hard to create high quality contentfor Polish audience. Previous translation trouble has lead to use of unique templates with unique formatting, not least among citations. Add to this that the Polish Wikipedia does not allow template redirects and a large body of work is required for each article. (This is somewhat alleviated by a commissioned Template bot - to be released). - List of articles for integration
 * Arabic The Arabic Wikipedia community has been informed of the efforts to integrate content through both the general talk-page as well as through one of the major Arabic Wikipedia facebook-groups: مجتمع ويكيبيديا العربي, something that has been heralded with great enthusiasm.

Integration is the next step after any translation. Despite this it is by no means trivial, and it comes with its own hardships and challenges. Previously each new integrator has needed to dive into the fray with little help from previous integrations. Therefore we are creating guides for specific Wikis that make integration simple and straightforward, with guides for specific languages, and for integrating on small Wikis.
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Instructions on how to integrate an article may be found here

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Women in Red World Contest
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CMS does not recognize that term
The center for Medicare and Medicaid services does not use the term nurse anesthesiologist because it is misleading to patients. It is recognized by a political action committee, AANA, that has monetary motivation and not patient care as a goal. Much like the AMA is a political action committee, I do not, nor does the medical community as a whole accept these words as they carry political motivation, whether it come from the AANA or the AMA. To use that term means you are practicing medicine and any nurse would agree that you are not. This is the reason why liability is different between a physician and an advance practice nurse or PA. I certainly believe that you have patients best interests at heart but to use the word “anesthesiologist” whether you say nurse with it or not will falsely make patients believe they are being cared for by the physician. I have said this before, nurses are the most noble profession that we have and trying to obscure the title does not help in patient care. Please see CMS.gov if you don’t believe me.

https://www.cms.gov/Outreach-and-Education/Medicare-Learning-Network-MLN/MLNProducts/Downloads/Medicare-Information-for-APRNs-AAs-PAs-Text-Only.pdf Onejokeaway (talk) 13:24, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

Ok,

CMS and the WHO do not define titles, the national association approves their use and, just as in my state, they can be used via the approval of the board of nursing. "Physician Anesthesiologist" the approved title of the American Society of Anesthesiologists" is ALSO not "approved" by CMS. Yet it is all over the ASA website and used synonymously with physician. CMS does not, in fact "approve" or "regulate" any titles nor do they have the power to do so.

The AMA and the ASA are political trade organizations representing PHYSICIANS. They cannot dictate policy or titles or anything else to anyone else including CRNAs.

You were blocked for editing with inaccurate terminology. Such as "midlevel", changing the name of the American Assoc. of Nurse Anesthesiology, their official LEGAL name to AANAnesthetists. I have referenced the correct approved titles and the name of the assoc. in the wiki. This is inaccurate and clearly for political reasons. In fact as a physician yourself it is clear you have no other motivation.

"You have allowed Mr. Michael Mackinnon, aka Mmackinnon, to falsely update the page with the phrase nurse anesthesiologist. The term anesthesiologist is reserved for a physician (MD/DO) who went to medical school."

This is not accurate. There is no protection for this title by anyone or for anyone. In fact there are dentists anesthesiologists (https://asda.org/), veterinary anesthesiologists (https://acvaa.org/) and, anesthesiologist assistants (https://aaaa.memberclicks.net/faqs) clearly showing it is not, in fact reserved for MD and DOs.

Moreover the ASA did its own research which showed that ANESTHESIOLOGIST is not associated with physician in 2012 and that was the genesis of the "physician anesthesiologist" title. You can see it yourself here in the video of that presentation (https://www.dropbox.com/s/5plv3nk7lxuf4j4/asa%20Pr%202012.mov?dl=0).

"By allowing this term posted by Mmackinnon you are allowing inaccuracies that the CMS and the World Health Organization do not use nor approve of because it causes confusion to the average person of the healthcare professionals abilities and responsibilities."

There is NOTHING confusing about NURSE Anesthesiologist and the research was done to prove that (https://www.nurseanesthesiologistinfo.com/poll).

Again, please stop trying to edit for political reasons. Mmackinnon (talk) 15:47, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

Hello and some unsolicited advice
Hi there Mmackinnon, I see you've popped in and out of the encyclopedia over the last many years, so welcome back. I have a note and two small pieces of advice that you may take or leave as you will. First, the note in response to your concern here: WikiProject Medicine is a landing page for editors interested in medicine broadly construed. Folks there have diverse interests and experience with healthcare, some are in healthcare-related careers of course, but some are not. I see you posted at WikiProject Nursing as well, but you'll find that project is basically dead. So posting at WT:MED is typically the surest way to find an interested but uninvolved party, which is why El_C suggested it and was surprised by your reluctance. Second, my hot tips: (1) We're all volunteers and this is a hobby. I recommend focusing your editing on topics that you have a degree of personal separation from, that way it'll be much less frustrating when you encounter resistance. (2) Oftentimes, no reply or a curt reply is more powerful than a long-winded recitation of your point-of-view. If someone has made it clear that they do not plan to be reasoned with, restating your view, engaging with their counterpoints (which may spring eternal), or insulting them are all just a waste of your time. Your time is precious. Just go to some noticeboard and ask for more opinions to break the deadlock. If folks don't see it the same way as you, well that's just an occupational hazard of editing a wiki. You can always move on to another topic.

Pardon my overlong note here. Most importantly, I hope you're staying well during these crazy times. If you're looking to branch out in your editing, feel free to post at WT:MED and folks can help you find a task that might interest you. Happy editing! Ajpolino (talk) 04:46, 13 September 2021 (UTC)


 * hi User:Ajpolino


 * Thanks for the advice! I did not know about how WikiProject Medicine worked at all so I am relieved to learn about how diverse it is! The reason I focused on anesthesia and CRNAs is because the wiki gets consistently vandalized by those who have a political interest in controlling our profession and saying untrue thing as well as being nasty. It has been this way eternally for some MD-Anesthesiologists and the reason is control/ego because we can directly compete with them. As you can imagine, it is difficult to watch them try and do these things and not correct the inaccuracies. while im attached to that stuff I do try and keep everything referenced and explained. Not sure what else to do other than to let them destroy it? I will use the WikiProject Medicine more tho now that i know what it actually is! After looking at the edits the same offenders on the CRNA and nurse anesthetists have made on anesthesiology i think it is pretty clear what the motivation is? Any other advice?Mmackinnon (talk) 15:39, 14 September 2021 (UTC)