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Steinruck SCS-1
Thanks for your edits to this article, but you can't just add "stuff you know" to Wikipedia, because it is considered original research and is not permitted. All substantive changes to articles must be cite to reliable sources or else they are not verifiable. The cited sources in the article all disagree with your additions, so to add these you will need a cite a very good source. - Ahunt (talk) 19:31, 21 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Wade Steinruck was mostly responsible for the design and 100% manufactured the SCS-1. Our family is upset that the designer of the SCS-1 is listed as A.C. Cordas.  Al had a small role in the design. The SCS -1 was Wade Steinruck's dream.  A.C. cordas helped with some of the testing of the sailplane.  Al was not even a pilot.  You can verify that.  Wade Steinruck is the source for the information. How can the designer of the aircraft, not be a source? Mobg678 (talk) 19:51, 21 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Basically Wikipedia is not a blog, you can't write whatever you like in articles, even if you think it is correct. We can't use unpublished sources for encyclopedia articles, because they are unverifiable. There is also a lot of room for dispute. If we asked A.C. Cordas he might say of course he designed it, or something like that. So we have to go with what is published and verifiable. All the cited refs, like this one list A.C. Cordas as the designer, so we would need a published reliable reference that says otherwise and then we could at least indicate that the matter is in contention. We can't just accept hearsay. You need to reference a published reliable source (ie not self published) that supports what you want to add. - Ahunt (talk) 20:19, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

The website you referenced is not accurate. If we have time, we will contact them sometime. Only one website on the internet listed A.C. Cordas as the designer, and now it is spreading all over the internet. It is even in a new book about Torrey Pines. This is sad. Your website is spreading inaccurate information. We never authorized the website. Does Wade have any rights as the owner? Mobg678 (talk) 00:06, 22 July 2014 (UTC)


 * That website mostly reprinted data from Soaring magazine, so that is where it came from originally. Wikipedia is only as good as the sources it cites. If you can point to other reliable refs then we can use those, if not then we can only go with what has been published. - Ahunt (talk) 01:24, 22 July 2014 (UTC)