User talk:Modest.julme

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April 2012
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Mahar and Christianity
According to the reliable sources 75% of Mahar caste converted in Buddhism and few followed Christianity.Even many sources confirm about Christianity conversions by various Dalit leaders in Maharashtra state. Could you please explain me the reasons behind deleting matter about Christianity? Do you have any reliable citation for deleting that matter? Please do not exhibit bias at the article. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blueyarn (talk • contribs) 09:36, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

This claim is unproven, very few Mahars converted to Christianity and when they found it difficult to get married they followed the mainstream and converted to Buddhism. There is no proof that 25% Mahars converted to Christianity. Something is written in some book should not be taken as a proof. There is No documentary proof. No Verification. The way it is shown that 25% Mahars followed Christianity, it is totally false and you will found Christian Mahars which could be counted on finger tips.

On what basis Dr. B. R. Ambedkar is called 'Messiah of Mahars', he was Social Reformer of highest order and not the caste leader.


 * On what basis you could prove that claim is unproven? The source itself is an evidence that 75% Mahar converted in Buddhism. That does not mean 25% converted in Christianity. I never mentioned % of people who converted in Christianity.

Many sources talk about Christianity conversion by Christian missionaries. Please prove it with reliable writing source as I have already proved. Please prove your claim with reliable resources.And according to the the Wikipedia policy you need to prove any writing with citation. I have done so far. Could you prove that?
 * The source says him 'Messiah of Mahars'. I never have inserted without any citation. Please read those resources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blueyarn (talk • contribs) 10:30, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Then again who informed you that only 75% Mahars converted to Buddhism and rest 25% resisted or remained as it is or changed to any other religion? Fake data with fake book reference is old policy of some fake personalities. 'Messiah of Mahras' is a propoganda slogan propagated by the fascist ideologue to maintain their mass base. I will prove my point with good data records from Government Sources. Please don't give fake description of Mahar community as I am one of those whose forefathers belonged to this community.


 * Source claims about 75% of Mahar converted in Buddhism. Please read the source. It is not fake source. You cant say fake to any source unless you have something to prove with another source. I have cited according to the reference. I never have mentioned anything of my mind here.If you wish, the description B R Ambedkar as Messiah (as source have claimed) could be removed. But conversion in Christianity is absolutely non negotiable.Ample of resources says about Christian conversion, you cant deny that fact. Again I would like to add that, source claims 75% people converted in Buddhism. And I have always proved with the resources. Please prove your claims with reliable sources as I have so far. I Will wait for reliable proofs from you. I do respect your feelings as a Neo Buddhist, but Wikipedia needs reliable writing sources.

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blueyarn (talk • contribs) 11:02, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Every time you say reliable source, then that source should be recent and time tested. The Mahars who converted to Christianity were subjected to same embarrassment as it was there in Hinduism, then again they were finding it difficult to get married considering the fact that many changed to Buddhism. Mahar is a caste and in India marriages are used to happen within caste. Again, those who converted to Christianity found it difficult to get SC quota under reservation, thus many followed the mainstream and changed to Buddhism. I have many examples in my neighbourhood. Some Mahars may have converted to Christianity, it doesn't mean only 75% followed Buddhism. Your observation of 75% is untrue and not the one which is time tested. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Modest.julme (talk • contribs) 11:14, 11 June 2013‎

June 2013
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Thank you. 220  of  Borg 12:37, 20 June 2013 (UTC)