User talk:MoeAdamChaieb

Speedy deletion nomination of McHacks
Hello MoeAdamChaieb,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged McHacks for deletion, because the article doesn't clearly say why the subject is important enough to be included in an encyclopedia.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Trivialist (talk) 08:37, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Moved to userspace
I've moved the article to your userspace at User:MoeAdamChaieb/McHacks. There are several issues with the article. First is that the article claims this is a "semi-annual" event... that hasn't even held its first event yet, if I'm reading this correctly. It's usually better to hold off calling it a recurring event until the scheduled date has actually passed. You can say that the event planners expect for it to turn into a semi-annual event, but it's usually better to say something like "McHacks is an upcoming student hackathon that will be held at McGill University in Montreal on February 23, 2014." That brings up another thing: when you're talking about something such as an event, you need to include the year. This is important partially because the founded date is incorrect. The group that is holding the event was founded in 2013, but the event itself will be held in 2014. The date the event is held is what we typically consider to be the "founding" date, because we really can't call it an event until it has actually commenced. Plus you can't automatically predict that the event will be held again. A lot of that sort of thing depends on how successful this first event is, as well as on several factors such as interest, group numbers, and so on. Even success doesn't guarantee that a convention or gathering will be held again- someone can say that something will be held again, but then things happen and the event doesn't take place. That's why it's usually better to say "expect to hold again" rather than making a guarantee.

All that aside, the biggest issue here is the lack of coverage. We need coverage in reliable sources such as newspapers and the like. Part of the problem with this is that since the event hasn't happened yet, the coverage isn't really there. The sources on the article aren't really that useful because the first one (The Bull & Bear) is a newspaper run by students of the college. That makes it a WP:PRIMARY source at best, since it's in the college's best interest to report on things that happen within its walls and could allow the college to gain further media attention or prestige. Now BetaKit is sort of usable, but the problem with that source is that it kind of runs dangerously close to being what we'd consider to be a non-usable source. That it is written by a staff member does work in its favor, but if this went through an official WP:AfD it would likely be considered unusable per WP:RS.

The best thing for now is to just keep it in your userspace and wait to see if it gains any coverage. It would probably be better to just include this in a 1-2 sentence summary at McGill_University. I'm assuming that your student organization is recognized by the college itself, which would be somewhat of a requirement for this getting listed there. However if this does gain enough coverage to merit a separate article, then it can always be re-created. I'd probably recommend that you solicit some help from one of the applicable WikiProjects such as WikiProject Internet culture or WikiProject Computing. The computing WP would probably be better for several reasons, one of which is that it seems to be more active than IC. Of course if you like what you see there and want to help out with those WikiProjects, then that's good too! :) Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   11:12, 19 February 2014 (UTC)