User talk:Mohammed1003

March 2015
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ACN Inc.
Please stop adding unsourced non-neutral content to ACN. Wikipedia isn't the place to provide advice, or to vent frustration. If you have reliable sources, include them. If you have any questions, Talk:ACN Inc. is the place to ask them. Seriously, this content can be added, but only if you find sources and write it in an encylopedic way. Thanks. Grayfell (talk) 08:43, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
 * You're just going to ignore me, huh? Alright. The content you're adding is going to get deleted, anyway, though. Grayfell (talk) 09:07, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

Are you in ACN?


 * No, I'm not involved with any MLMs. Just because I see a problem with your edits doesn't mean I'm your enemy, or a shill or whatever, understand? Wikipedia isn't a place for original research. The way to explain the problems that ACN has is to find sources. Journalistic exposes, reports by consumer protection agencies, academic reports, things like that. If you just keep adding your opinion without any sources, it's your word against the ACN fan club, and the default position of Wikipedia is to leave unsourced content out, which makes it a big waste of time. Grayfell (talk) 19:43, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

So you're telling me you dont have credible info on ACN as you dont have any experience both good or bad in the company? I've been in ACN for a while now. Still actually am. And I've helped take alot of people off acn. As I've helped show them what acn members try their best to hide.

If u look online for acn reviews. U will find criticism. So is it okay to write anything from there? Or link it to anything thats not Wikipedia?


 * Like I said, I don't have any first-hand experience with ACN. Being involved with a company while writing about it is a WP:COI (conflict of interest). If you have personal experience with the company, that's fine, but you still absolutely need to source your additions.


 * Finding sources is not as simple as just linking to other sites. Identifying reliable sources explains it all in great detail, but the basic point is this: Sources need to be have a reputation for fact-checking and editorial oversight, or they need to be written by someone who is verified, by an outside source, as an expert. Having an article about the person, such as Robert L. FitzPatrick, is a good sign that someone's an verified expert. Review sites are almost never good enough by themselves, because they are way too easy to fake. Anybody can post to such a site, or start a blog, so WP:UGC (user generated content) is not usable in most cases. This is why Facebook is very rarely used on Wikipedia.


 * There are a lot of MLMs out there, some large, and some way too small to bother writing articles about. Unfortunately, this means that a lot of the time they tend to get ignored by reliable sources until they become large enough to attract legal attention like Herbalife, or fall apart completely like FHTM.


 * Fox 11 out of Los Angeles did an expose on ACN a few years ago, but it looks like they've taken it down from their website. I'm going to see if I can't find a way to cite that story for some of the complaints and criticisms against the company. In the mean time, I'm not going to WP:EDITWAR to remove the content you added, but don't be surprised if someone else removes it. If you keep re-adding it, you're going to get blocked, and the article's going to get edit protected, so keep that in mind. Grayfell (talk) 00:04, 3 May 2015 (UTC)