User talk:Mojopin23

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Ok, the article you started work on is now in User:Mojopin23/Sandbox, i.e. your personal sandbox where you work on it until its ready. -- Fullstop (talk) 05:38, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

First, welcome to Wikipedia! I've added a couple of links at the top of this page that you read when you get a minute.

Back to the subject of your article: That I think is the basic stuff you need to get started. If you need help, just leave a note here or in the workspace. I'll see it since I now have those pages on my "watch list." So, just have fun wiki-ing. I'll be standing by. :) -- Fullstop (talk) 05:50, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
 * It's really important that you identify why the band is special, or rather, why it deserves inclusion in an encyclopedia.
 * Since you are (to put it mildly) "close" to the band, you are in a very good position to write a great deal about them. So do it! Not only will the fans be grateful for it, it will benefit the encyclopedia too.
 * Now of course an encyclopedia shouldn't serve as an advertising platform, so here are some tips how to keep your prose in check: a) don't use flowery language. b) key facts should be cite-able, after all, an encyclopedia does not (or rather should not) contain material that has never been published before.

ps: To give you an idea of what a good band article looks like, see The Smashing Pumpkins or one of the other articles listed listed here. Of course, you probably won't have that kind of coverage in hand, but those articles will give you an idea for structure and content, and generally what else to strive for. You will probably be busy writing already, so I'll check back in 12 hours or so. If you need help in the meanwhile, copy-and-paste "helpme" somewhere on this page, and someone will be along to help you out. Until then, happy editing. -- Fullstop (talk) 06:12, 21 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Could you please inform me of what is exactly unacceptable about the current article? I can make the changes if they are noted. However, i am currently unsure of what needs to be altered to prevent deletion. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mojopin23 (talk • contribs) 14:46, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

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 * See point #1 of the three bulleted points above.
 * assertions that you make must be backed-up by citations of existing sources
 * don't just link to the band's page. It looks like the article is coat-racking to advertise that one link. (also: don't link for the sake of linking, but instead use links as the source for something you have said. For example, for the history you have written).
 * Write. For example, instead of ...
 * "The band formed in 2006, and have been regularly playing the London Indie circuit since."
 * say...
 * "The band came together in 2006 when ... who ... how ... did ... what . They have since been playing the London Indie circuit, which is _____, and have appeared in in xyz clubs and so-and-so often, to a such-and-such audience, of so-and-so many people, reviewed by tom,dick,and harry, who said __whatever__."
 * Make it encyclopedic.
 * -- Fullstop (talk) 16:27, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

I've made quite a few alterations now. Is this any better? I tried to make the external link as 'informative' a link as possible. I don't feel there's much else i can do with such a link. I added a lot more to the 'History' section, making it more encyclopedic. Unfortunately i am unaware of what is needed to provide citations? I hope this has improved the situation and the band is able to keep the page.

Kind regards Mojopin23 (talk) 20:57, 21 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Ok, good stuff, you are getting there. But you still haven't asserted why they are notable. Also, please provide more sources than just the band's home page. If the band is notable they will have reviews, or fan pages, or whatever. These are your *sources* for the article.
 * Also, when you use an adjective that makes the subject stand out, you need to source it. For example in "the band often delves into a unique mixture" you need to note who said the band's mixture was "unique."
 * I hope this isn't too frustrating. -- Fullstop (talk) 00:54, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi there. Any news on whether or not the band is allowed to have the wikipedia profile? we've made many alterations, as requested, and we're just waiting to here back from someone. thanks Mojopin23 (talk) 20:54, 6 June 2008 (UTC)