User talk:MollelwaFahaSaBasotho/Archive 1

Your submission at Articles for creation: sandbox (March 16)
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Dan arndt (talk) 05:29, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: sandbox (March 16)
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Eagleash (talk) 22:16, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

June 2023
Hello, I'm Toddy1. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, Brandfort, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. -- Toddy1 (talk) 08:19, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

Hi MollelwaFahaSaBasotho! I noticed that you recently marked an edit as minor&#32;at Bushra Razack that may not have been. "Minor edit" has a very specific definition on Wikipedia—it refers only to superficial edits that could never be the subject of a dispute, such as typo corrections or reverting obvious vandalism. Any edit that changes the meaning of an article is not a minor edit, even if it only concerns a single word. Please see Help:Minor edit for more information. Thank you. Kj cheetham (talk) 11:56, 18 June 2023 (UTC)

Makosi Consulting moved to draftspace
Thanks for your contributions to Makosi Consulting. Unfortunately, it is not ready for publishing because it is promotional and reads like an advertisement. Your article is now a draft where you can improve it undisturbed for a while.

Please see more information at Help:Unreviewed new page. When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. Fancy Refrigerator (talk) 03:11, 19 June 2023 (UTC)

Philippi Village moved to draftspace
Thanks for your contributions to Philippi Village. Unfortunately, it is not ready for publishing because it needs more sources to establish notability and No evidence of notability. Your article is now a draft where you can improve it undisturbed for a while.

Please see more information at Help:Unreviewed new page. When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page.  Velella  Velella Talk 15:29, 21 June 2023 (UTC)


 * thank you. I will provide more sources MollelwaFahaSaBasotho (talk) 19:46, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

Nomination of Makosi Consulting for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Makosi Consulting is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Makosi Consulting until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished. KH-1 (talk) 01:49, 3 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Why not help improve the page?? MollelwaFahaSaBasotho (talk) 06:01, 5 August 2023 (UTC)


 * I have made it clear that your post at Articles for deletion/Makosi Consulting was a statement in favour of keeping the article. If you look at other deletion discussions you will see that there is a usual format for these things, and it makes it easier for other people if posts follow the usual format. -- Toddy1 (talk) 13:50, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Let the masses decide. It is clear you have your own agenda as to why you would want to have the article deleted. The article has verified  links as well as reliable references has been provided, from America. You might be having a problem with a South African company thats doing good in America perhaps. Otherwise, there are otyer poor articles with no references at all tgats standing. Focus your energy there.
 * I will be here in the meantime.
 * Thank you MollelwaFahaSaBasotho (talk) 06:57, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Why do you think I spent time checking the citations, and in some cases improving the information about them in the citation templates?


 * Why do you think I did the source evaluation table? What it shows is that either (a) you need to present a case that the trade journals Accountancy SA and The Silicon Review count as independent sources, or you need to find sources that count as (1) independent, (2) reliable, and (3) have significant coverage of the company.  You will see that I found another source for the company (Institute of Chartered Accountants of Zimbabwe, 1 May 2022 Newsletter), but it has only got one line mentioning the company so it fails the "significant coverage" criteria.


 * By the way, the object in talking to you, is partly in the hope that you will pull the rabbit out of the hat and find sources that prove that the article should be kept, and partly in the hope that in the future you will bear in mind the need to meet the WP:ORGCRIT principles when creating new articles. -- Toddy1 (talk) 07:34, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi Toddy1
 * Thanks for your inputs and directions. I will definitely do as you suggested.
 * Regards MollelwaFahaSaBasotho (talk) 14:12, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Since we'll you have nominated the page to be deleted, I am directing this to you.
 * When was the census reached???
 * Was the article marked for a speedy deletion?
 * This was not fair at all as this morning new links and references were added.
 * How do we do about this??
 * Thanks MollelwaFahaSaBasotho (talk) 11:30, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Was the article marked for a speedy deletion?
 * It was deleted as a result of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Makosi Consulting. That is a different process to speedy deletion.
 * When was the census reached???
 * If you want to ask how the decision was reached, the move discussion is clear enough. But if you need more information, the process is to post a message on the closer's talk page asking them.
 * How do we do about this??
 * I have asked the closer nicely on her talk page if the deleted article could be restored to draftspace as Draft:Makosi Consulting and to do a history-merge. That would allow you to improve the article until it is ready for mainspace.
 * Good luck Smiley.svg -- Toddy1 (talk) 12:05, 11 August 2023 (UTC)


 * The restored article and talk page are at Draft:Makosi Consulting 2 (talk). These include the article history of the draft article you created in June 2023.  Please do not make copy and paste moves with it.  (The article history includes various people's contributions, and must be preserved.)  Just develop the article at Draft:Makosi Consulting 2, and when you think it is ready for mainspace, ask other editors to review it. -- Toddy1 (talk) 07:47, 12 August 2023 (UTC)


 * MollelwaFahaSaBasotho, what I would like to do it to have old Draft:Makosi Consulting speedily deleted (this is the 19 June 2023‎ draft), to that Draft:Makosi Consulting 2 can be moved to Draft:Makosi Consulting. Is that OK with you? -- Toddy1 (talk) 08:01, 12 August 2023 (UTC)


 * I have asked for Draft:Makosi Consulting to be speedy deleted, so that Draft:Makosi Consulting 2 can be moved to Draft:Makosi Consulting. -- Toddy1 (talk) 10:52, 14 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Smiley.svg Your draft is now at Draft:Makosi Consulting. -- Toddy1 (talk) 21:00, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

Concern regarding User:MollelwaFahaSaBasotho/sandbox
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Your submission at Articles for creation: Darren Isaacs (August 17)
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 * Dear Theroadislong.
 * Thanks you for declining my article.
 * I have two questions :1. You reckon a guy from South Africa, who has established a company thats doing good and being listed in American top list is not notable???
 * That the company he established and won awards, whereas many companies whom have articles standing and has won nothing in the past 5 years are better for the Wikipedia??
 * I'm startinh to think most of you have a big problem with South Africans and its companies, especially doing good in America.
 * I will work on this article, translate in 11 Official South African languages. I just want to see something. Thank you MollelwaFahaSaBasotho (talk) 13:06, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Darren Isaacs (August 17)
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Theroadislong (talk) 13:16, 17 August 2023 (UTC)


 * What should qualifies as an improvement in your opinion?? You haven't answered question posed to you earlier.
 * It is true, if we as Africans write our stories and narratives, they get quickly deleted but I look at many pages edited by many of you of our content that are standing the test of time, with wrong information or poorly sourced references.
 * We need to change this biasness and one way of doing it is to write articles such as this in our very own languages, just to see how it will go.
 * Thanks MollelwaFahaSaBasotho (talk) 13:22, 17 August 2023 (UTC)


 * try completing a source assessment table on the draft-article talk page (Draft talk:Darren Isaacs). I did one for you at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Makosi Consulting - this should show you how to do it.  The benefit of doing a source assessment table is that it shows you whether you have provided evidence of notability. -- Toddy1 (talk) 16:47, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

"Wikipedia:Lindsay Moshesh - van der Byl" listed at Redirects for discussion
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 * Thanks. Looking forward MollelwaFahaSaBasotho (talk) 03:02, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

August 2023
Hello, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. A page you recently created, Lindsay Moshesh - van der Byl, may not conform to some of Wikipedia's guidelines for new pages, so it has been moved to where you can continue to work on it. Please consider using the Article Wizard or the Articles for Creation procedure. For more information about creating articles, you may want to read "Your first article". You may also want to read our introduction page to learn more about contributing. Thank you.  shelovesneo  (talk) 11:11, 21 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi shelovesneo.
 * Please note that this is not my first article... I would be glad if you could return the article to the mainspace again where it's fate could be decided. I am improving as it goes. Thank you for your pointers and inputs MollelwaFahaSaBasotho (talk) 11:21, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
 * , can you please list/mention at least one article you have created, Darren Isaacs also fails NOTABILITY have was denied and you were requested to improve the article in draftspace, articles are not often improved in mainespace, that's why there's a draftspace for incubation.  shelovesneo  (talk) 12:34, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I fail to understand you. Are you now judging me by articles created, does that warrants you to delete my articles??
 * If you are that smart, you could have just assisted in improving the article, and not by doing counts or showing off who has done how many numbers of articles. It's your behavior that discourages new editors,instead of using your valuable experience to better Wikipedia and not make as if you and your peers own it. Thank you MollelwaFahaSaBasotho (talk) 13:05, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
 * MollelwaFahaSaBasotho - all he/she said was that the article belongs in draft. Do a source assessment table for it if you do not believe it belongs in draft - you can put the table on draft article's talk page. -- Toddy1 (talk) 13:14, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi Toddy1.
 * The person is notable! He has numerous awards in South Africa! ISNT that notability?? MollelwaFahaSaBasotho (talk) 13:16, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Then do source assessment tables for Draft:Darren Isaacs and Draft:Lindsay Moshesh - van der Byl. This will help you assess whether there is sufficient evidence of notability in the articles. -- Toddy1 (talk) 13:18, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I am struggling, currently using mobile phone. Do you mind assisting,please. For o believe this article the person is notable. He has appeared on National TV, I have provided links, national newspapers, won awards, and etc. Thank you in advance for collaborating MollelwaFahaSaBasotho (talk) 13:37, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
 * , my apologies I didn't mean to upset you, all i was asking for was that you cite those sources you are talking about now as i believe they might help your article stay afloat in mainspace. Last thing, bad behavior is not tolerated on this site and if you've gone through basic rules of this encyclopedia i believe you've read that we don't own articles we've created thus they're not ours, thank you  shelovesneo  (talk) 16:41, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi Shelovesneo.
 * Apology accepted. I see you have worked on Moneoa, a page you created and removed tags. The article has been flagged for years and no discussions ever took place!
 * Lastly, Moneo never won an award but was nominated, but you removed Lindsay Moshesh van der Byl who has won multi awards and claim he is not notable??? Do You see your biasness, perhaps?? MollelwaFahaSaBasotho (talk) 22:55, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

Please do not move draft articles about people to names that start "Wikipedia:". Names that begin like that are not for articles, they are for documents concerning the running of Wikipedia, such as: Moving Draft:Darren Isaacs to Wikipedia:Darren Isaacs was not appropriate and has been reverted. If you think that it is ready to move to article-space, don't move it yourself, instead submit it for review like you did on 17 August. -- Toddy1 (talk) 02:24, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia:Accuracy dispute, which is a content guideline
 * Wikipedia:Verifiability, which is a policy
 * Wikipedia:Account Verification, which is an essay
 * Wikipedia:So how exactly do you verify a Wikipedia article?, which is an essay


 * , greetings, this user moved a page that was draftified back to mainspace instead of submitting it for approval. I believe this user also moved Moneoa Moshesh to draftspace and their reason was that they're articles were moved too. Please do something about it, a temporal block before indefinite will do. And to show that this user is inexperienced, they moved an article to "Wiki-space". Thank You.  shelovesneo  (talk) 02:36, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Shelovesneo
 * 1.Anyone can edit Wikipedia
 * 2. Your article Moneoa Moshesh is not notable and has been flagged for years, but you saw it fit to publish it. My question was that what makes the individual notable, was it the nominations for awards recieved many useless links provided?
 * 3. These two people, who are cousins by the way, one has actually won awards and one being by the Mail and Guardian, Africas biggest read for you information. You haven't answered questions poised to you! Now you want to threaten me with being blocked?? Huh, is that how you threaten new editors or users????
 * 5. Most of your articles are non sense, as experienced as you are. MollelwaFahaSaBasotho (talk) 02:54, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Being cousins doesn't verify notability, I'm sorry but you're inexperienced and you should start small like everyone else by doing minor edits or fixing typo, how can you move a BLP to wikispace.  shelovesneo  (talk) 02:59, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
 * The movement was a clear mistake, which is the reason why we have a Wikipedia community. Please tell me you have never made one!?? Experience means nothing, otherwise we wouldnt have many overlooked crappy articles, like many you have up. I don't have a problem at all with starting small, what happened to being bold on Wikipedia???
 * I will continue contributing to the movement since it IS my time I'm spending here. What I am looking for is collaboration as an "experienced" Wikipedian. Not your useless threats or who is experienced, attended wikimania or whatever. MollelwaFahaSaBasotho (talk) 03:09, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you vandalize Wikipedia.  shelovesneo  (talk) 02:39, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
 * If you think that Moneoa Moshesh should be moved to draftspace, please use the process at WP:AFD. This is a process for deleting articles - but it is perfectly OK to recommend that the article should be moved to draft instead of being deleted.


 * It is not a good idea to do things like this as retaliatory strikes. Doing so can get you blocked as a disruptive editor.  Issues should be taken on their own merits. -- Toddy1 (talk) 02:54, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Toddy1
 * You have been helpful, but you are never answer all my questions, except those you want to.
 * How will I become a better editor if I'm not making mistakes???
 * If you as fellow Wikipedians are hellbent in blocking and removing articles (even notable ones) just because your egoes doesn't allow you to "collaborate"??
 * Its not fair at all, I haven't been disruptive but keen on adding African content here. How and where will I get experience If individuals like Shelovesneo do as they wish or get special immunity???? I request you have a list of many articles done by this user, and revert back. Thanks MollelwaFahaSaBasotho (talk) 03:00, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
 * , please visit WP:TEAHOUSE for further assistance, you are not seeking help but revenge.  shelovesneo  (talk) 03:05, 22 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Smiley.svg am overweight, but asking you to take exercise will not fix my problem. Similarly, when I advised you to do some source assessments, it was because I thought that the experience of trying to do this would give you insights that would help you to get articles to a standard that people would accept them in mainspace. I understand that it is difficult. -- Toddy1 (talk) 03:09, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
 * It's futule, when you have the resources and I don't. I have told you it's impossible since I am currently using a mobile phone.
 * You might not know the extent of my overweightness.. But at least you are sympathizing with me. Thank you MollelwaFahaSaBasotho (talk) 03:15, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
 * There is an example source assessment table at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Makosi Consulting. For each source, you have to answer three questions:
 * Is it independent?
 * Is it reliable?
 * Does it have significant coverage?
 * Definitions of these are in the wikilinks. The answers are yes (y), partially (-), no (n), or do not know (?). The final column (count source toward GNG?) is calculated as the worst of the answers to the three questions for that source.  It helps to give comments to explain why you scored some questions the way you do. And if you cannot use the template, you can still answer the questions for each source on the article's talk page and someone else can put your answers into the template for you. Now please have a go.  It will save you a lot of grief in the next few days. -- Toddy1 (talk) 08:47, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

This edit is a reasonable way to add links from existing articles to your new article. But where is the citation to a reliable source supporting it? Please remember verifiability is necessary. -- Toddy1 (talk) 02:59, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Philippi Village (August 22)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Velella was:

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 Velella  Velella Talk 12:35, 22 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi Velella.
 * Please note Philippi Village is a community Center and not Philippi, the place. Thank you MollelwaFahaSaBasotho (talk) 17:07, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:Darren Isaacs has a new comment
 I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Darren Isaacs. Thanks! Greenman (talk) 20:44, 22 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Hy Greenman.
 * Thanks.
 * I will continue to work on it.
 * MollelwaFahaSaBasotho (talk) 02:08, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Darren Isaacs (August 23)
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Deb (talk) 07:44, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Masabane Cecilia Rangwanasha


A tag has been placed on Masabane Cecilia Rangwanasha requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be an unambiguous copyright infringement. This page appears to be a direct copy from https://www.classical-music.com/features/artists/who-is-masabane-cecilia-rangwanasha-a-guide-to-the-acclaimed-operatic-soprano/ and https://www.bbc.com/mediacentre/2021/masabane-cecilia-rangwanasha-wins-song-prize-bbc-cardiff-singer/. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images taken from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites or other printed material as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

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 * Hi. When you edited the new article for Masabane Cecilia Rangwanasha, you introduced a few problems:

Please think twice before making any further edits. Deb (talk) 07:42, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
 * 1) You introduced promotional language, such as the word "prestigious", which should hardly ever be used on Wikipedia.
 * 2) You created statements about two awards, which I have had to remove because they were unreferenced.
 * 3) You introduced some poor English and bad punctuation, which I have corrected.


 * Hi Deb. Thank you.
 * You might want to assist with some of my articles!? Like Makosi Consulting, Darren Issacs and others like you did with this one.
 * Thanks MollelwaFahaSaBasotho (talk) 07:45, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
 * The only reason that Masabane Cecilia Rangwanasha caught my eye was that it was nominated for speedy deletion and I knew there were already articles in other languages. But you need to stop placing articles in mainspace without getting them reviewed first, and you also need to ensure that you don't submit them for review until they can meet the criteria for inclusion. Deb (talk) 08:08, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi Deb.
 * "You knew the article exited" in other languages, but only worked on it after your saw my mistakes and poor English introduce.
 * What the Wikipedia community there for?To correct one another, to fix each others mistake and do forth. What you did is not unique at all, we have fixed many errors and mistakes in the past.
 * What do you mean by thinking twice??? Are you implying that I stop editing because of simple mistakes, or bad English or grammar??? Or you just want to discourage me altogether editing?
 * Lastly, you published the very same article through the mainspace, but I know you will tell me how experience and a good Wikipedian you are. Thank you MollelwaFahaSaBasotho (talk) 05:36, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

Archiving
Do you want me to set up talk page archiving on your talk page? If you do not know what that means, have a look at my talk page. It has the advantage of clearing old topics, but leaves their content accessible in archives if you need to refer to them in the future. Given that people are explaining how to do things, etc. that might be useful. -- Toddy1 (talk) 08:13, 23 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi Toddy1.
 * Maybe that could help MollelwaFahaSaBasotho (talk) 05:36, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

Lindsay Moshesh - van der Byl moved to draftspace
Thanks for your contributions to Lindsay Moshesh - van der Byl. Unfortunately, it is not ready for publishing because it needs more sources to establish notability and '''very clearly not ready for mainspace. No evidence of notability'''. Your article is now a draft where you can improve it undisturbed for a while.

Please see more information at Help:Unreviewed new page. When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page.  Velella  Velella Talk 22:20, 22 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Did you intend to draftify this a second time over this user's objection (contrary to WP:DRAFTOBJECT)? SilverLocust 💬 11:09, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
 * No. Had I realised that it had been previously drafted I would have taken it straight to AfD. I was trying to be helpful to what seemed like a newish user.  Velella  Velella Talk 09:25, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

Your draft article, User:MollelwaFahaSaBasotho/sandbox


Hello, MollelwaFahaSaBasotho. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "sandbox".

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 22:16, 16 September 2023 (UTC)

Bare URLs
Please could you use Template:Citation to cover bare URLs in the article on Makosi Consulting. -- Toddy1 (talk) 08:15, 19 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Hi Toddy1, thanks for the heads up, will do. MollelwaFahaSaBasotho (talk) 08:20, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

Nomination of Tshegofatso Seoka for deletion
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Paid editing
Hello MollelwaFahaSaBasotho. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

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Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are  required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:MollelwaFahaSaBasotho. The template Paid can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form:. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. Theroadislong (talk) 08:38, 19 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Hi..
 * So the problem is no longer the article not being notable but being a paid one?
 * How bias and confused are your Wikipedia policies, especially when it suits you.
 * You are very biased. This company has won awards in the US and keeps making waves.
 * Maybe you the fact that its an african company doing so well in New York doesn't sit with you well?? MollelwaFahaSaBasotho (talk) 02:26, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I am not paid,thank you MollelwaFahaSaBasotho (talk) 02:47, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

January 2024
Please do not attack other editors, as you did at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tshegofatso Seoka. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. Theroadislong (talk) 08:45, 20 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Apologies, no attack was made on anyone. You are failing to answer basic questions about notability. My response to you was that two of my articles are very notable, especially to South Africas. Makosi Consulting is making waves in New York, do you know what that means to South Africans?? As Tshegofatso Seoka, you reckon having being counted amongst 200 Top Young People in South Africa by Africa best read news publication, Mail and Guardian, as not being notable??
 * Lastly, I have pointed that there are far worse articles that are nonsense in the space that has stood a test of time. Who will write our stories, as Africans, of we don't wrote our own stories which we take pride in?? Most of articles on Africa or people are badly written by Europeans amd are very biased. Maybe you should dedicate your time and focus in rectifying them and assisting in getting the two in question up.I have absolutely no doubt that Makosi Consulting will come up in the future, you cannot deny what the company is doing. Thank you MollelwaFahaSaBasotho (talk) 20:17, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:Philippi Village
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 * Thanks, article updated. MollelwaFahaSaBasotho (talk) 20:23, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:Lindsay Moshesh - van der Byl
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Philippi Village moved to draftspace
Thanks for your contributions to Philippi Village. Unfortunately, I do not think it is ready for publishing at this time because it needs more sources to establish notability, you may have a possible Conflict of Interest and It is an unnecessary fork of Philippi. I have converted your article to a draft which you can improve, undisturbed for a while.

Please see more information at Help:Unreviewed new page. When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page OR move the page back.  Velella  Velella Talk 09:30, 31 January 2024 (UTC)


 * It may be worth noting that providing references that claim to show that the CEO is notable does not demonstrate in any way that the article subject is notable. If you believe that the CEO is notable then it may be worth trying to create a Draft article about the CEO instead.  Velella  Velella Talk 19:12, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Lindsay Moshesh - van der Byl


Hello, MollelwaFahaSaBasotho. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Lindsay Moshesh - van der Byl".

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 22:33, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:Darren Isaacs
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 * Hi. Thank you. I will work on the article MollelwaFahaSaBasotho (talk) 07:23, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Ennock Mlangeni moved to draftspace
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 * Hi. This is funny, one said this article lacks notability.. Jikijiji it's sounds like an advertisement!??
 * There's a long way to go indeed for Africans and thier content MollelwaFahaSaBasotho (talk) 04:18, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

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