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Good work
I appreciate your work providing reference. When you can contribute why to edit while logged out.--Vin09 (talk) 12:49, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
 * See wiki pages are not reference, instead they can be wiki linked. I've added a ref.--Vin09 (talk) 13:22, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

Thank you! for your support and admiration/recognition of my work. I am still a toddler in context of using Wiki. I am open willing to any discussion :)  Nelli is an authentic  Telugu word, it is source for names of the towns NELLIMARLA(VZM DIST), NELLORE(P.S.NELLORE DIST). NELLORE town of Latifolia has so much glory to itself that it had several OVERLAID names from Sanskrit Dhanyapuri PADDY TOWN- transliterated from it's Tamil meaning of NELLORE, and VikramaSimhapuri associated with the Pallava Ruler who ruled from the town of Latifolia plant. It's a pity that the simple transliteration of NELLORE Article has not been done since ages here in Wiki. Wonder Andhra(/Telengana)  is(are) doing for Telugu??:{.
 * http://www.nelloreonline.in/city-guide/history-of-nellore is not a reliable source. Provide newspaper articles, books or journals as reference.--Vin09 (talk) 15:11, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

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Indic scipts
No need to mention the other names in indic scripts, can write in english. Can also read Template:Infobox_settlement.--Vin09 (talk) 05:40, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks once again Kindly checkout the same Kurnool[Kandanavolu] again, use of attribute using Template:Infobox_settlement. Thanks in advance--Mondivadu (talk) 18:50, 22 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Please see that even if it is Sanskrit info, they are referenced. As per WP:RS, should not remove referenced content. Referring to Guntur page. Also, please provide references for whatever you write except blogs, social sites and promotional websites. You can provide government sources or books or newspapers as reference. As of now I've added back and taged citation needed template. If you need more info can reply.--Vin09 (talk) 05:43, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

Mondivadu (talk) 15:34, 25 November 2015 (UTC) 1)I add text in Telugu language wherever required, please do not delete it, as in case of Guntur గుంట + ఊరు, it becomes self explanatory to the native readers. In Kannada too it gives the same meaning Gunte + Ooru I can site articles where Indic scripts are used for disambiguation. When written in only English some times it does not convey meaning correctly ....more to talk...do you..have...time?..........
 * See this is English wikipedia, readers read articles worldwide, so no indic scripts. If you are good on Telugu you can try te.wikipedia, a Telugu wikipedia for the language. Still dictionary is not a reliable source, I'll try to find ref and add them. I hope you get it. Definitely I'll help you. Why don't you try in creating new articles than only editing scripts.--Vin09 (talk) 16:24, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

Mondivadu (talk) 16:51, 25 November 2015 (UTC) FOR YOUR KIND INFORMATION TYPING IN TELUGU, CURRENTLY VERY VERY FEW PEOPLE DO! i am one of them - YOU NEED NOT COMMENT ON IT

FOR A NEW ARTICLE, I'M AFRAID I HAVE TO PUT MUCH MORE TIME,BUT I CAN'T

AFTER SPENDING SO MUCH TIME TO IMPROVE ARTICLES, ALL THAT I GET IS REJECTION, THIS IS NOT FOR WHICH I HAVE SPENDING TIME KINDLY READ THE INITIAL TEXT AT THE REFERENCED WEBSITE WHEN WAS GUNTUR REFERENCED HISTORICALLY AS GARTHAPURI?????, IT IS ONLY FABULOUS RE-CHRISTIFICATION USING INDIAN FOLKLORE, THE SITE ITSELF ADMITS THAT!! COULD YOU PROVE BY ANY MEANS THAT GUNTUR, DID NOT HAVE IT'S AUTHENTIC NAME IN HISTORY??

PLEASE READ The original Sanskrit name (ancient Vedic culture/tradition) for Guntur was Garthapuri. The "Agasthyeswara Sivalayam" in the old city of Guntur is an ancient temple for Siva. It is said that Agastya built the temple in the last Treta-Yuga around the Swayambhu Linga and hence the name. The 'Nagas' were said to have ruled the region. The place of Sitanagaram and the Guthikonda Caves can be traced (through Vedic Puranas) back to the last Treta-Yuga and Dwapara-Yuga (Traditional Time scale: 1.7 to 0.5 million years ago, Ref). However these are not scientifically verifiable facts like most of the vedic folklores.

THE SITE ITSELF AGAIN MISLEADS SAYING THE  I CAN IN NO WAY ASK THE CONTENT WRITER TO CHECK HIS TEXT. DOES IT MEAN THAT ALL THE TOWNS IN ANDHRA HAD ONLY SANSKRIT NAMES FOR RIVERS, TOWNS ETC?? AND TELUGU WAS NOWHERE??? THEN WHAT ARE THE CURRENT NAMES WITH WHICH WE ARE ACQUAINTED WITH ARE THESE  -  ???. DOES ANYONE BELIEVE THE  WAS IN VOGUE SINCE 'Traditional Time scale: 1.7 to 0.5 million years ago,' FOR THE PLACE NAME OF GUNTUR ACCORDING TO VEDIC SOURCES '(IN SANSKRIT OF COURSE)'- WELL RIDICULOUS, I DONT BELIEVE THIS DATA - ' WHAT A RESEARCH!!'

DOES A SENTENCE "" DENY ONES RIGHT TO VERIFY THE AUTHENTICITY OF THAT NAME???if this is the case all text in context of India cannot be verified or challenged

THIS SENTENCE  However these are not scientifically verifiable facts like most of the vedic folklores. IN PARA IN THE SITE INDICATES THAT THE FICTICIOUS UNRELIABLE CONTENT HAS BEEN INCLUDED IN THE SITE, THE SITE ITSELF CANNOT CLAIM THE USAGE OF THE WORD GARTHAPURI ANYWHERE IN INDIAN HISTORY, BUT EXCEPT FOR WORKS OF MYTHOLOGY, AND FICTION. HOW CAN WIKI READERS BE PROVIDED WITH SUCH INFO. ON THE OTHER HAND THE NAME OF THE PLACE IN VOGUE IS GUNTUR APPEARS BE IN VOGUE FROM ATLEAST 1147 A.D AS INFERED in two inscriptions dated '1147 A.D' and '1158 A.D', HOWEVER A VARIANT OF THE WORD GUNTUR APPEARS ABOUT A CENTURY EARLIER, IN Idern  plates of Ammaraja I '(922-929 CE)', the Vengi Eastern Chalukyan King. HOWEVER WITH REFERENCE TO WORD GARTHAPURI 'DO I BELIEVE' THAT THE PLACE WAS REFERRED AS GARTHAPURI IN SANSKRIT SINCE last Treta-Yuga ('Traditional Time scale: 1.7 to 0.5 million years ago') AS MENTIONED IN THE INSCRIPTION ON A TEMPLE BUILT BY AGASTYA??? IS THAT POSSIBLE? WHEN WAS THAT TEMPLE CONSTRUCTED?? WHAT IS THE HISTORICAL DATE OF SAGE AGASTYA??, WOW HOW LOGICAL - it's A HOAX, ALL THAT I BELIEVE, ALL BELIEVE!

KINDLY REFER Human evolution - WE READ IN WIKI THAT AROUND TIMELINE OF '0.40 MILLION - 0.25 MILLION' YEARS AGO THE HOMOSAPIENS EMERGED. WHAT A RIDICULOUS DATA THAT IS TO BE BELIEVED OF THAT SAGE AGASTYA, AND AGASTYA CONSTRUCTED THIS VERY TEMPLE OVER HERE IN GUNTUR SORRY 'GARTHAPURI' 'Traditional Time scale: 1.7 to 0.5 million years ago' ACCORDING TO VEDICC/SANSKRIT TEXTS. PLEASE COME TO SENSES NOW!! I DOUBT THEN WHETHER HE WAS A???? 1) Homo erectus (1.8 Ma), 2) Homo antecessor (1.2 Ma ), 3) Homo heidelbergensis (600 ka) 4) Omo1 and Omo   (200 ka) 5) Homo sapiens   (160 ka) CAN'T GUESS FROM (1) TO (5) WHO HAD NAME AGASTYA WHO BUILT THE TEMPLE AT A PLACE 'GUNTUR', SORRY 'GARTHAPURI'   ACCORDING TO VEDIC SOURCES/SANSKRIT, WRITTEN ON THE WALL, SOMEWHERE DURING 'Traditional Time scale: 1.7 to 0.5 million years ago', AND FINALLY ' However these are not scientifically verifiable facts like most of the vedic folklores.'

THIS IS ENOUGH THEN---I WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE WIKI-- IN ARTICLE OF VIZIANAGARAM THE HISTORY IS MOSTLY INACURATE - is is biased towards ODISHA only, their kings only, IN SRIKAKULAM THERE WAS VERY LITTLE HISTORY, - everything is biased towards ODISHA only, they can change our history but nobody tries to put THE TRUTH

BENGALI POPULATION DO NOT DWELL IN VZM, BUT IT WAS LISTED IN SPOKEN LANGUAGES OF VIZIANAGARAM

I AM TRYING TO BRINGOUT INCLUDE EASTERN CHALUKYAS OF VENGI,KAKATIYAS, VIJAYANAGARA HAMPI, GOLKONDA ETC besides Gajapati's of Odisha If you don't recognize my effort I BID GOODBYE!! I DONT'T WANT TO BE AT WAR WITH YOU

Mondivadu (talk) 06:08, 26 November 2015 (UTC) Gunta గుంట in Telugu can be pronounced accurately by Telugu People, ta as in tall and I have given Nighantuvu(as Dictionary is called in Telugu) link; another way to pronounce the same word Gunta గుంత when read by a Telugu reader is Guntha as in Guntakal గుంతకల్లు, this is the current state .This Indic text is the need, Hope you understand, I am not ignorant as you surmise, I can point out other pages where Indic scripts are used in such contexts if you need so please stop advising, I have already got your advise two times for now, with respect, no offence. It is pronounced differently in Spanish word for example 'pregunta' ప్రెగుంత - (Telugu transliteration for Spanish word), 'ta' as in Spanish junta English (culture neutral) readers are aware that the word junta is a Spanish word, and they can pronounce accordingly. But English readers worldwide cannot expect how to pronounce a Telugu word. So your point of dictionary to be an unreliable source does not hold water.

No, please don't take my wording wrong, I fully support your efforts. Why I was referring te.wikipedia is just to remind that there also you can improve about telugu (don't take negatively). Feel free to express your views. If you wants to add, not a problem. I won't oppose. Thanks for replying for my posts.--Vin09 (talk) 07:00, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

Mondivadu (talk) 07:21, 26 November 2015 (UTC)THANK YOU FOR GETTING MY POINT, AND I TOO FEEL HAPPY TO WRITE TELUGU ARTICLES NOW ON, CHEERS! 'నేను తప్పకుండ తెనుఁగున కూర్పుని కూర్చెద, కూర్పు కావించెదను.' మీ మేలుని మఱువను, (I WILL WRITE IN ATCHCHA TENUNGU, MY INSPIRATION IS 'GIDUGU RAMAMYRTHY PANTHULU - Gidugu Pidugu, పాతపట్నం, శ్రీకాకుళం dist',, WHO FOUGHT FOR RESURRECTION FROM SANSKRITIC TEXTS, AND ADVOCATED COLLOQUIAL TELUGU FOR WRITING INSTEAD OF DUMB SANSKRITIC COMPOSITIONS CONTAINING SPATTER OF TELUGU, I want TELUGU to be carried forward, I don't want to Sanskritize MY IDENTITY, ''TELUGU VARDHILLUMU') ఇట్లు, Mondivadu (talk) 07:21, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

Mondivadu (talk) 12:56, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

Archive
I've placed an archive code which archieves the discussions, so that your talk page is not too long. You can refer in the archive pages for older discussions.--Vin09 (talk) 13:34, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

Indic scripts (contd)
Check the following links, where you find INDIC Scripts in other languages. Hope you can understand the purpose behind my edit, the purpose of including Telugu Script.

SPANISH (I) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinata https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venezuela  JAPANESE (I) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kobe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamakura_period  1.MALAYALAM https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thiruvananthapuram  2.URDU https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Quli_Qutb_Shah https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dakhini https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sultan_Muhammad_Qutb_Shah  3.KANNADA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koppal_district  4.ODIA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hathigumpha_inscription https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Udayagiri_and_Khandagiri_Caves <BR> 5.BENGALI<BR> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kolkata <BR> 6.TAMIL<BR> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pattukkottai https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nellore_district <BR>

KINDLY CHECKOUT OTHER LINKS BY YOURSELF. I HAVE INCLUDED IN THE SAME SPIRIT

--Mondivadu (talk) 12:56, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

For poems, you can write, not a problem. Also, about your addition in paras also its not a problem. But strictly in lead (1st para) we should not add per WikiProject_India. Please read WikiProject_India. I've removed in Pattukkottai, Koppal_district pages as per wiki policies. Reminding you I'm not against your edits as they are not in lead section. For clear talking I've remove duplicate section content from this section, as it was already in the above section, so that we can answer easily. Thanks.--Vin09 (talk) 13:07, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

Mondivadu (talk) 13:22, 26 November 2015 (UTC) Etymology section is not a lead section as per your reference

Indic scripts in lead article AS PER WIKI WikiProject_India The following articles 'Indic scripts' appear in 'lead section' of articles and MUST be purged TOO<BR> ODIA<BR> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hathigumpha_inscription<BR> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Udayagiri_and_Khandagiri_Caves<BR> <BR> URDU<BR> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Quli_Qutb_Shah<BR> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dakhini<BR> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sultan_Muhammad_Qutb_Shah 'Indic scripts'' in 'Etymology'<BR> BENGALI <BR> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kolkata<BR>

✅.--Vin09 (talk) 13:29, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

SEEN IT DONE.--Mondivadu (talk) 13:38, 26 November 2015 (UTC)


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Please do not write summaries of this kind. Like a person who does not belong to Komati (Telugu)community. Everybody in wiki works globally and caste, religion things should not be directed at a particular editor.--Vin09 (talk) 13:50, 7 December 2015 (UTC) There are other communities (caste) that refer themselves to be (Trading class) calling themselves Arya Vaishyas, mistakenly they try to include us Komaties into their fold, when we refer ourselves to be Arya Vysyas elsewhre instead of Komaties, it is creating unnecessary confusion. They mistakenly look us to be migrants who have long settled in Telugu lands, and thus expect to speak their language, we do not. I(or somebody else) must explicitly clarify them ( Agarawals, trading classes in Gujaratis, in Marathis, and others who are mistaken quite often reading Etymology in Wiki)that we are not themselves and we belong exclusively to Telugu lands. , but we are different trading class from them in every respects, and that we are Dravidan. In such contexts for unambiguity 'a person who does not belong to Komati (Telugu)community' is the proper expression. . I (or someone else) in such a context, must clarify that I/we are Komatis(Trading class), the article here referring to us is not allowing to include the point with 'a neutral point of view' neutral point of view. I try to clearly speak that 'Komati' was recorded even during the days of Chinese Buddhist Pilgrim Yuan Chwang, and the Chinese Buddhist Pilgrim Yuan Chwang also had stated clearly that<BR> A) 'Komati's were trading class of Vengi society; <BR> B) The Komatis(Vaisyas) as a trading class, were a flourishing community .Their organisation into a powerful guild(Nakaram) which had BR> C) it's headquarters in Penugonda(WestGodavari) and branches in seventeen other centres had it's beginnings in this period. page D) He also mentions for clarification that Jainism and Buddhism religions too were influenced by the caste system('Komati' being one of the divison) prevelant in Vengi.

kindly read this here from this book 'History of the Andhras upto 1565 A.D' in this page. I try to include this extract to clear misconception regarding word 'Komati' in the article and user Sitush undoes my inclusion of this extract above every time, and Joshua Jonathan seconds actions of Sitush. They are collectively sidelining the earliest historical recording of the word from a reliable source and they are doing and are adamant to their opinions trying to enforce their conclusions excessive weight in article in question.

Sitush also questions the reliability of my source?

What needs to be done? worried for the article above, need some time for correcting article I am(and everybody of my Komati Caste are) are concerned about article over here.Vin09 (talk) 11:14, 8 December 2015 (UTC)


 * So, if you have some references then discuss in the article talk page with user. You should not revert edits unless there is some consensus.--Vin09 (talk) 11:14, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
 * User:Kautilya3 in the {talkpage:Arya_Vaishya#Komati} asked user:Joshua Jonathan the following, that what exactly I meant
 * It seems that "Arya Vaishya" is a self-labelling used by certain Komati communities, probably during the British Raj times.[1] If so, I don't think we need this page at all. Just a short mention in the Komati page should be enough.
 * then, asked my opinion on the matter as follows
 * @Mondivadu: should we move it back to the original title "Komati (caste)" and delete the page Komati caste?


 * I say that too
 * does this mean that a consensus has been reached, do I restore changes done earlier, is it correct now, do I revert changes done by User:Sitush

Sanctions alert
I am not interested in any of your sanctions from you, I am a genuine contributor and have no intention to convince administrator(s). I am not interested henceforth. You/somebody being an administrator must see that my Komati caste article is properly reflecting the truth. This is a Dravidan Telugu Caste. With partisan contributors I dont like to be here anymore. Bye!Mondivadu (talk) 23:48, 11 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Dear Mondivadu, You seem to be editing the Arya Vysya article in a great hurry, but you have not collected any reliable sources. All your new content is full or WP:OR and it will get reverted sooner or later. You are simply wasting your time by doing these edits. I suggest that you collect authentic sources, and rewrite the content based on them. In the first place you cannot call Komati a "tribe" without a reliable source saying so. I have suggested "Komati caste" as the new page name, but your new page name is quite ill-formed. Please do pay attention to these warnings. The sanctions alert above tells you that will face sanctions if you ignore them. - Kautilya3 (talk) 23:52, 11 December 2015 (UTC)


 * You have also been editing Komati caste in a similarly inappropriate manner. Do you understand WP:V and, in particular, the stuff at WP:OR? Much more of this and you will probably find yourself banned from the topic or even blocked from editing the English-language Wikipedia entirely. - Sitush (talk) 12:48, 12 December 2015 (UTC)


 * This link below is a reliable source that highlights(exposes) the truth

Kindly find (medical) Ethnicity and (spoken) Language family of Komatis over here in this link below   entry # 47 Komati It is true that Komatis are Australoid and speak Dravidan language Telugu they are not Aryans (Caucasoid) nor speak Indo-Aryan languages. Please do not go by mythologies, or religious texts[like Vasavi Puranam], since the folklore are mostly invented


 * Your threats to contributors is resented ( paying for my contributions? no help, but warnings?)
 * Thega in general in Telugu means a caste as well as a tribe. Komatis are refered as (Telugu:కోమటి తెగ) 'Komati thega' means a caste as well as a tribe too. It is with this broader connotation I had renamed/created the article as Komati Caste(Tribe). Without knowing the meaning its a shame that administrators are complaining this to me, read some Telugu text and than reproach me.
 * Instead of annoying me see to youself in a dictionary.
 * [User:Mondivadu|Mondivadu]] (talk) 23:39, 12 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Since I am a genuine contributor and from the same caste itself, and native language being Telugu itself I am clarifying that Komati in an ancient Telugu Dravidan tribe that is primarily involved in trade since ancient times, so generally in Telugu, Komati also meant a merchant . (They got indoctrinated very recently in early part of 20th century as Trading Class-[vysya] in social ladder, but with stiff opposition from Brahmins) Thus they are neither Vysyas from antiqity nor Aryas
 * The most confusion stems from the perception that Telugu is derived from Sanskrit, but originally the two languages belong to different groups one is South Central Dravidan and  other Indo-Aryan. Thus etymology section is irrelevant and views of Historian author  Hanumantha Rao who is not a Linguist is condemnableMondivadu :::(talk) 23:39, 12 December 2015 (UTC), his views do not count

Ethnicity of Kapus
@User: The Blade of the Northern LightsSir I wish to include the ethnicity of Kapus from http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2156/7/28/table/T1''  [#49 Kappu Naidu], and [#50 Kappu Naidu] and the Language Family to affirm that the same. Kapus are Australoid and speak a Dravidan language.[Australoid as given in the site is - superset of Dravidanoid][Telugu language grouping - South Central Dravidan].Consider inclusion of the same to avoid being considered Aryan(Caucasian). Please include these info at appropriate locations if desiredMondivadu (talk) 13:59, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

Komatis Ethnicity(Australoid) and Language Family(Dravidan)
@[User:Vin09] I have reliable source to prove that we Komatis are not Aryans(who are Caucasoid). We Komatis are Australoid in ethnicity, and we speak Telugu a Dravidan Language Please check for yourself at http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2156/7/28/table/T1, entry #47 Komati Kindly checkout ethnicity and language family of this group Therefore it is a point clarify that we are not related to other castes/sub-castes of Northern India who are primarily Caucasoid, and speak Indo-European languages, otherwise it will amount to misleading, cheating others.

Only ethnic Aryans(Caucasian) in Telugu lands are Andhra Brahmins, but they too speak Telugu only Indian government should not entertain such fictitious claims.
 * 1) 49 Kappu Naidu,#50 Kapu Reddy who generally claim to have migrated from north much like Komatis(labelling themselves AryaVysysas) seem to be lie blatantly for some personal selfish gains are all Ausraloid in ethnicity


 * First of all sign your posts when you write. Secondly, there is no need to explain me all these, write them on the article talk page. Only after there is a consensus you should move ahead.--Vin09 (talk) 06:44, 13 December 2015 (UTC)


 * @Vin9 I have posted the same in article talk page Arya_Vaishya, How can I know if a consesus is reached?, how long do I wait?.Do I edit article now, what do you opine (not Komati - still under scrutiny) mentioning ethnicity giving reliable source http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2156/7/28/table/T1,  entry #47 KomatiMondivadu (talk) 08:06, 13 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Why were you in so hurry? The users will decide what should be done.--Vin09 (talk) 08:09, 13 December 2015 (UTC)


 * @Vin9 How can I know if a consesus is reached?, (because I am eager to see the truth)


 * Only if everybody accepts, the article will go ahead.--Vin09 (talk) 08:38, 13 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Mondivadu, since you are displaying a serious case of conflict of interest, pretty much none of your edits to articles will be accepted. Your best bet is to learn to write talk page posts arguing your positions. The posts should be clear, to-the-point, and well-sourced. Please see WP:TPHELP and WP:TALK to find out how to use talk pages properly. Proper indentation, signing posts, writing succinct posts (4-5 lines long), are a must. If you do not write proper talk page posts, you won't be able to persuade anybody about anything. - 14:06, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

Warning
Removing talk page warnings like this won't delete it. It will be stored in history.--Vin09 (talk) 07:37, 15 December 2015 (UTC)