User talk:Moneytrees/Archive 13

RevDel
Could you pin this? Don't know why the other one got arch. Best, Signed, The4lines &#124;&#124;&#124;&#124; (You Asked?) (What I have Done.) 17:02, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Since pin message didn't work last time, you might try Do not archive until, and leave a note for Lowercase sigmabot III 's operator,, letting them know. BlackcurrantTea (talk) 19:37, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Could you take a look at this? Draft:John Petrie (drag racer) Best, Signed, The4lines &#124;&#124;&#124;&#124; (You Asked?) (What I have Done.) 03:37, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
 * These Ru Paul–related articles are always trouble. EEng 04:31, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
 * What do you think? User:The4lines/Presumptive removals don't mind me if I used your words about the Hathorn one. Feel free to change it to User:Moneytrees if want or think so. Best, Signed, The4lines &#124;&#124;&#124;&#124; (You Asked?) (What I have Done.) 23:42, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
 * No it's fine, what I wrote their about presumptive removals needed a home. Moneytrees🌴Talk🌲Help out at CCI! 00:46, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Can you Rd-1 this Hessam Abrishami There is so many Rd-1 requests right now I wish I could help, but I can't :p. Thanks, Signed, The4lines &#124;&#124;&#124;&#124; (You Asked?) (What I have Done.) 22:18, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Are quotes allowed like here Chicago Blackhawks (Check in the hsitory.) Imagine if there were a CopyVio removal school... Best, Signed, The4lines &#124;&#124;&#124;&#124; (You Asked?) (What I have Done.) 02:34, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
 * A copypatrol school isn't a bad idea, given that there have been more eyes on the area recently.... maybe when there's a few more editors in the area, though, since there's still only a small group of people in the copyright area compared to npp. Me, you,, , , , , , , , , , , , and are the main editors of the area; it's a fair amount but the 15 of us are a bit dwarfed by the 100 or so NPP people. As for the edit, it wasn't the best executed quote with a small amount of prose outside of the actual quote; I added some parentheses to make it more obvious. I think we should try and make copyright less restrictive, since it can cause so many headaches, but that's just my opinion; feel free to come up with your own. Moneytrees🌴Talk🌲Help out at CCI!  03:01, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I would agree with you as it would save me a lot of head smashes. (And it my opinion Infomation should be free, but that is just me) As for the School, I feel with the number of editors in Copyvio removal a mentorship program would be good for right now. (Like Offical mentorship, not like me and you that I just ask questions, and it is not offical "Mentorship") When we gain more hands, we could open a school of copyparol. Best, Signed, The4lines &#124;&#124;&#124;&#124; (You Asked?) (What I have Done.) 03:41, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

Bahrain National Space Science Agency
Dear Moneytrees. I have created a draft for Bahrain National space agency, I have copied content from nssa.gov.bh and have added references for all the content. Why has it been removed? Many thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ralamad (talk • contribs)
 * You are allowed to cite sources, but copying from a non-public domain source, as the Bahrain National Space Agency's website is bu saying "All rights reserved" you are breaking the copyright violations guidelines on Wikipedia (read WP:COPVIO) as you are not allowed to copy directly from a source as it breaks copyright regulations. — Yours,  Berrely  • Talk∕Contribs 07:01, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

A Barnstar for you!

 * Thanks man, you keep up the good work too. Moneytrees🌴Talk🌲Help out at CCI! 01:19, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Dholera Airport total edit reversal.
Recently You undid me edit on Dholera Airport page. IF you look yourself, the edit was proper with refrences. At least you should Put This on my talk page rather than permanently reversing the edits. How am I supposed to edit the article all over again. If there is phrasing issue, let me correct it. But I can't access my old edit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rajeevsingh007 (talk • contribs) 18:24, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , it wasn't the sources that were the problem, but because you made a copyvio from, as Moneytrees said in their edit summary. Copyrighted content is not allowed on Wikipedia, please read WP:COPYVIO. — Yours,  Berrely  • Talk∕Contribs 19:39, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , I can email you the text of the edit minus the copyright part (Which can be seen here by clicking on "iThentiacte report"). Moneytrees🌴Talk🌲Help out at CCI! 16:59, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Fadda Dickson
The copyvio on Draft:Fadda Dickson was mostly resolved by the time I handled your G12 nom. The score had been whittled down to 10ish percent in a piecemeal manner. I felt it was best served by removing the G12 and, since it lacked a clear divide between copyvio and clear copies, revdeleting the entire history. Please let me know if there's any of that you have a problem with. Cabayi (talk) 09:30, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , That's fine, I wouldn't've done differently. Moneytrees🌴Talk🌲Help out at CCI! 17:06, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

Child marriage articles at a CCI
Hello. I was looking through the child marriage articles that were already checked at Contributor_copyright_investigations/BrugesFR. To my surprise, some still had infringing copyvio text. The worst one was Child marriage in Mali that I requested a RD1 for, (it was from an archived copy of the Girls not bride website that predated the Wikipedia article). I also stumbled across copyvios by another user at Child marriage in Nigeria that was there since the article creation. So, I think the child marriage articles in the CCI should be rechecked just in case. I've done Mali, Togo, Mauritania and working on Nigeria. I haven't looked through the ones that have no check or X next to them. Let me know what you think. Thanks! --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 23:50, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , That's weird, I should have noticed that. My guess is that Internet Archive may have been down that day? I've rev'd it and the other, and will check the other articles. That CCI is pretty deceptive; some listings are easy, others are a real pain. Moneytrees🌴Talk🌲Help out at CCI! 01:22, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * No worries! Weird things happen lol! Thanks for looking into it :) --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 01:27, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

Second opinion
Hi Moneytrees, I've got another copyvio question. Take a look at Complex of Sultan Bayezid II Health Museum. Earwig is telling me that it's an exact match for content here and here. I was going to G12 it, but it's written by a fairly well-established account, and one whose talkpage isn't plastered with COPYVIO warnings, so I wondered if it might be a case of these pages copying our content. Internet Archive doesn't have anything on either of those sites - is there another way to check? Girth Summit  (blether) 11:24, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , Thanks for coming to me; those were copied from us. Our article is an attributed copy of Complex of Sultan Bayezid II (see the page history); as for the sites, the first site lists facebook as it's source, and the facebook page lists us as their source. The second site seems like one of the many cheap travel mirror sites; when it comes to global destinations, several sites copy us with no attribution. Moneytrees🌴Talk🌲Help out at CCI! 14:27, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , hey - you're good at this! Thanks :)  Girth Summit  (blether)  14:29, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

SashiRolls close redux
I wanted to compliment you on the close to the SashiRolls ban review at AN. It was going to be a mess and your close I think handled it the best it could be done. It's a thankless task, but I wanted to let you know it's appreciated (regardless of how you saw it, just glad you explained it as you did.) RickinBaltimore (talk) 16:30, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

Second opinion 2
Hey there. Was attempting to clean up some of the old copyright problems and came across Copyright problems/2020 January 18, where I can't tell if there's a copyvio or if it's a backwards copy. Normally gossip sites just pull information so I was ready to tag it as a backwards copy until I saw the writer. Given that it's part of Contributor copyright investigations/Dr. Blofeld 16, I'm wonder if it should be stubbified (as the copypaste was very blatant) or if it was in fact a backwards pull and can be tagged as such. Thoughts? (p.s. also saw your note on Copyright problems/2020 June 16, and I actually uncovered that edit from a follow-up check on Contributor copyright investigations/20101122, so yeah, definitely should be indeffed if there's another copyvio). Wizardman 21:26, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , I'm pretty confident that's a violation; it looks similar to other blatant pastes I saw in that investigation, and sentences like "Reece recently reunited with Nike as a spokeswoman, and she is a new expert and writer for Yahoo-Health" are pretty suspicous Moneytrees🌴Talk🌲Help out at CCI! 00:41, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

July 2020
Thank you for your contributions. It seems that you have inserted Creative Commons licensed text into Wikipedia, as you did at W. You are welcome to import appropriate Creative Commons licensed content to articles, but in order to meet the Wikipedia guideline on plagiarism, such content must be fully attributed. This requires not only acknowledging the source, but acknowledging that the source is copied. There are several methods to do this described at Plagiarism, including the usage of an attribution template. Please make sure that any Creative Commons content you have already imported is fully attributed. Thank you. Moneytrees🌴Talk🌲Help out at CCI! 14:50, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

Constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, but a recent edit that you made to User talk:Moneytrees has been reverted or removed because it was a misuse of a warning or blocking template. Please use the user warnings sandbox for any tests you may want to do, or take a look at our introduction page to learn more about contributing to the encyclopedia. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you may leave a message on my talk page.   ——  Serial  14:59, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , Hello, I'm . [[File:Shade.png]]. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions to Information icon Constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, but a recent edit that you made to User talk:Moneytrees has been reverted or removed because it was a misuse of a warning or blocking template. Please use the ——Serial 14:59, have been undone because they did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use . If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Teahouse.Please make sure that any Creative Commons content you have already imported is fully attributed. Thank you. Moneytrees🌴Talk🌲Help out at CCI! 14:50, 19 July 2020 (UTC)Moneytrees🌴Talk🌲Help out at CCI!  15:17, 19 July 2020 (UTC) [[File:Shade.png]] Moneytrees🌴Talk🌲Help out at CCI!  15:17, 19 July 2020 (UTC) Moneytrees🌴Talk🌲Help out at CCI!  15:17, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

Getting Warnings about Constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated but a recent edit that you made to User talk:Moneytrees has been reverted or removed because it was a misuse of a warning or blocking template. Please use the user warnings sandbox for any tests you may want to do, or take a look at our introduction page to learn more about contributing to the encyclopedia. If you think I made a mistake which I did not, or if you want more warnings, you may leave a message on my talk page. Signed, The4lines &#124;&#124;&#124;&#124; (You Asked?) (What I have Done.) 15:09, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

A goat for a goat!
thanks for the helpful edits to my drafts - nice to see that kind of support for a rookie editor like me ;)

Wellohorldhelloworld (talk) 02:35, 20 July 2020 (UTC) 

Smokey Joe is attempting to re-litigate the SashiRoills case
here. As the closer of one of the many community discussion on this issue, I'm letting you know. Beyond My Ken (talk) 02:29, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

Contributor copyright investigations/20100114
LOL, I almost reverted you based on habit from an LTA but congrats! HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 03:00, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , 😅 Sorry, I really abused that ! To express my excitement! Moneytrees🌴Talk🌲Help out at CCI! 03:15, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

Zvezda (ISS module)
Fair enough if you dislike the direct copying of material from the Spaceref site.

But I fail to see the need for totally erasing my article update without warning, which means (as opposed to a mere "revert" which would have given me the chance to correct) I cannot rewrite / reformulate the information that I added! Now I have to waste another hour trying to remember from scratch the important missing details regarding life support, propulsion, ECLSS for that space station module.

What exactly is your point?

Mlindroo (talk) 15:04, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , Under our revision deletion policy, revisions containing copyrighted text need to be hidden from public view. I could email you the text, although I ask that you please not re-insert it. Moneytrees🌴Talk🌲Help out at CCI! 16:44, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

Copyright problems
Any chance you can take a look at Wikipedia talk:Copyright problems/Clerks? Its been open since last July. Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 21:20, 28 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Question: if the violations are removed, do you remove the copyvio tag before or after admin revdel? DannyS712 (talk) 21:37, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , I would say before. Doesn't really matter, as long as it's removed Moneytrees🏝️Talk🌴Help out at CCI! 21:46, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

Hendra Rahardja
Hi Moneytrees, hope you've recovered from the baptism of fire that was your RfA .... anyway, can you quickly take a look at this newly created article. It looks like a copyvio, but earwig gives a very low score of 1% on it. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  18:57, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , Hey Ritchie, nice to see you. Honestly, things have been pretty laid back since the rfa, the copyright area is pretty uncontroversial since we're all on good terms with each other. The initial article was mostly copied from the source, before it was reworded and cleaned in these two edits. The copypatrol report is just the source compared to the infringing edit, not the current article, which is why earwig said there was nothing. Moneytrees🏝️Talk🌴Help out at CCI! 19:40, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

Copyright and the Fair Use doctrine
I am aware of copyright laws. To remind you of the Fair Use Doctrine, here is what Wikipedia says about it.

"Fair use is a doctrine in the law of the United States that permits limited use of copyrighted material without having to first acquire permission from the copyright holder. Fair use is one of the limitations to copyright intended to balance the interests of copyright holders with the public interest in the wider distribution and use of creative works by allowing as a defense to copyright infringement claims certain limited uses that might otherwise be considered infringement.[1] Like "fair dealing" rights that exist in most countries with a British legal history, the fair use right is a general exception that applies to all different kinds of uses with all types of works and turns on a flexible proportionality test that examines the purpose of the use, the amount used, and the impact on the market of the original work. The innovation of the fair use right in US law is that it applies to a list of purposes that is preceded by the opening clause "such as." This has allowed courts to apply it to technologies never envisioned in the original statute including Internet search, the VCR, and the reverse engineering of software."

Since I did not use most or all of the copywritten material and cited it using the APA method of citation, I believe, the information can be added to the profile of Sylvia Allen. I am not claiming to be the author, nor am I seeking to gain financial benefit from the content, therefore I should be able to post it and still be within the Fair Use Doctrine. I will be sure to add quotation marks in the future.

Since I used and cited information that is readily available to the public already, I do not feel your removal of the information is valid. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SterlingSpots (talk • contribs) 03:00, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
 * , Please read our guidelines on the use of non free content; we unfortunately have to be stricter than most when it comes to fair use. Moneytrees🏝️Talk🌴Help out at CCI! 16:52, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

Anamorelin removal is it really a copyvio ?
Hi Moneytrees, you said that you deleted something for a cause of copyvio, but the article in question is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives 4.0 International License (CC BY-NC-ND). Please see https://creativecommons.org/faq/#can-i-include-a-work-licensed-with-cc-by-in-a-wikipedia-article-even-though-they-use-a-cc-by-sa-license ThanksHuhiop (talk) 14:12, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , Wikipedia unfortunately can't use NC/ND licensed content; our license allows commercial use, so we can't use non-commercial stuff. Moneytrees🏝️Talk🌴Help out at CCI! 15:44, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the info I did not know about that, where is it stipulated in wikipedia guidelines, sorry i couldnt find it thanksHuhiop (talk) 19:00, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
 * , WP:COMPLIC Moneytrees🏝️Talk🌴Help out at CCI! 19:16, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

Revert Kerala Police edit
User:Moneytrees Revert Kerala Police, else kerala police take legal action against you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nodesec (talk • contribs)
 * Sock blocked. MER-C 17:40, 2 August 2020 (UTC)

Berrely at CCI
The following three diffs all involved them marking plot summaries as basic prose:


 * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Contributor_copyright_investigations/Dr._Blofeld_20&diff=prev&oldid=970335010
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Contributor_copyright_investigations/Dr._Blofeld_20&diff=970331067&oldid=970077815
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Contributor_copyright_investigations/Koala15&diff=prev&oldid=965690181

I'm afraid they're getting a lot wrong and probably everything has to be redone. Please counsel the editor appropriately - I don't have the time or patience today. MER-C 19:36, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

This Is Me
By the way, can you remove the lyrics from Talk:This Is Me (Demi Lovato song) as well. Thanks. © Tb hotch ™ (en-3). 22:08, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
 * , ✅ Moneytrees🏝️Talk🌴Help out at CCI! 22:10, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Oh no, it was just ' edits. And now that you point it out, 's as well, but those lyrics were removed by Kww immediately after the signing bot. The rest of the edits are OK as far as I know. © Tb hotch ™ (en-3). 22:17, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
 * , oh, I missed kww removing the initial one... fixed. Moneytrees🏝️Talk🌴Help out at CCI! 22:48, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Sorry for being abrasive, but can you block . They were reported like 30 mins ago and continues adding false information to articles. They were alrrady blocked once for that. I just got tired of reverting. Thanks. © Tb hotch ™ (en-3). 23:09, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
 * , abrasive? Nah. Blocked. Moneytrees🏝️Talk🌴Help out at CCI! 23:32, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Again, thanks. © Tb hotch ™ (en-3). 23:34, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

Copyvio you removed
Hi Moneytrees, thanks for cleaning up the copyvio here. Given that the editor who added it has 6000 edits and 14 years tenure, though, I do wonder if the newbie warning you gave them is quite enough. They've been here longer than the two of us combined; they ought to know what they're doing. Vanamonde (Talk) 16:00, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
 * , (sorry for the delay!) The reasoning behind that was that they already received a stronger worded copyright warning, so a kinder more informative notice might do better. But if I see another copyvio from them, they're being indeffed and a CCI will have to be opened. Moneytrees🏝️Talk🌴Help out at CCI! 22:15, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Okay, fair enough. I'll try to keep an eye out. Vanamonde (Talk) 23:20, 13 August 2020 (UTC)