User talk:Moneytrees/Archive 29

Help on a new template
Hi @Moneytrees, I'm writing to you as you are the creator of Template:Uw-unattribcc, the warning template for Creative Commons licensed text. I've seen that we don't have a warning template for Open Government licensed text and decided to create one (Template:Uw-unattribogl). Since I used your template as a base, I'd like to ask you to take a look at it if you think it looks alright. Thanks Nobody  ( talk ) 07:18, 6 August 2023 (UTC)


 * @1AmNobody24 Thanks a ton for doing that, although I was recently thinking to myself if the "unattributed license copy" warning was redundant to the "public domain copy" warning, and if the two could be merged. So personally, I think that the open government license stuff could maybe be merged to the unattribcc template? I'm thinking that in part of wanting to make the copyright patrol area more accessible to outsiders. Moneytrees🏝️(Talk) 23:17, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
 * @Moneytrees I get what you mean. The wording for CC, OGL and PD can be added using a template parameter. But I'm not sure if that would work with Twinkle and RedWarn and what the name of the template would be. Thoughts? Nobody  ( talk ) 07:25, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
 * @1AmNobody24 I'm not sure if that's even needed per se, I was thinking of just changing the wording on Uw-unattribcc to something like "a source under a license compatible with Wikipedia", as both templates just link to WP:COMPLIC, which gives the same instructions regardless. Moneytrees🏝️(Talk) 04:14, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
 * @Moneytrees That's could work too. I'm thinking there could be a standard text, something like the one you propose, that could be changed to a specific license type using a parameter.
 * Example:  for the standard text,   for Creative Commons,
 * for Open Government Licence. Nobody  ( talk ) 05:38, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
 * @1AmNobody24 I think that would be a good idea and I would approve of making it a thing, with the default being "source under a compatible license". Getting the unatribbcc stuff into Twinkle was a bit of a process, see User_talk:Amorymeltzer/Archive_24. It got added in an update not too long after. Currently Amory is on a break though. Moneytrees🏝️(Talk) 21:58, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
 * @Moneytrees I have an idea of how to make it work with Twinkle and RedWarn, but I am not sure if it's possible. My idea is that using Uw-unattrib implements the standard text, using Uw-unattribcc implements, using Uw-unattribogl implements   and using Uw-unattribpd implements  .  Nobody  ( talk ) 05:30, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
 * @1AmNobody24 Couldn't that be implemented with the previously described parameter, rather than creating separate pages? Or maybe I'm misunderstanding parameters. Moneytrees🏝️(Talk) 00:19, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
 * @Moneytrees If using the template by hand, the parameter should work, but with tools like Twinkle and RedWarn, you can't add optional parameters (I think). But I'm not sure where one would ask for help/assistance in creating some test templates. WP:VPT? Nobody  ( talk ) 05:14, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
 * @1AmNobody24 I'm not really sure where that go either, I'd guess VPT or the associated Twinkle/Redwarn talk pages. Moneytrees🏝️(Talk) 22:06, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing my goofs at that RfA3 page!
Thanks for this. I probably should have double checked to make sure there weren't any more errors when I realized that this was in the table, but I didn't, and you beat me to it :) casualdejekyll  15:02, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

Re: Wikipedia and copyright
Thanks for your message. I have already replied it in my talk page. --Wengier (talk) 20:47, 21 August 2023 (UTC)


 * (responded there now) Moneytrees🏝️(Talk) 02:24, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

Requesting to be unblocked

 * This request was made by an IP. It would be a lot better if it was significantly shorter- but I don't see a block of any kind on this account- which block is being appealled? 331dot (talk) 08:42, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
 * @331dot presumably Contribs/CanadianHistorian –  I s o chrone (T) 10:14, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

ANI notice
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Another Wiki User. Thank you. Aasim - Herrscher of Wikis ❄️ 18:52, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

September flowers
The flowers seem to weep in memory. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:51, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

I wonder - having seen the images of him - if the talk header on Richard's talk could be replaced by something more personal, perhaps with an image. - I met that thing (talk header) as designed for contentious pages where people had to be told to assume good faith. A simple image, link to an obit, and link to the archives might work better. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:59, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

I just looked at User talk:Kbthompson, for example. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:46, 2 September 2023 (UTC)


 * @Gerda Arendt, thank you for the flowers. I feel like the question of a photo choice might be better for someone who met Nbb in person, but looking over recent deceased editor's talk pages it seems the template/archive notice mostly stays the same. In some cases like User talk:SlimVirgin I think the image goes with a memorial well and is a good encapsulation. Moneytrees🏝️(Talk) 14:32, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I think I wasn't clear. No question that there should be a link to the archives, especially as even the last version was archived. (When I die, please leave my talk as it is.) In the example you see how it could be done. The talkheader template serves no purpose: people come mourning and distressed, and don't need to be told that they should assume good faith. You have it yourself, and will have a reason, but I was told (by Iridescent) that it was designed for talk pages with a load of disagreement. I prefer the design for User talk:Dreadstar. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:43, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
 * @Gerda Arendt Ah I see what you are saying. Maybe an "Talk Archive of Deceased editor" option could be added; ideally it'd be more brief and look like the more minimal section here. I'm not too spry on template work though so I'm not sure if/when I'd get to it. Moneytrees🏝️(Talk) 03:15, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Today's story is about a great pianist with an unusual career, taking off when he was 50. It's the wedding anniversary of Clara and Robert Schumann, but I was too late with our gift. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:07, 12 September 2023 (UTC)

Friendly? Reminder
Hello, may I remind you of WP:SORRY? In the The ANI of me created partly because of Awesome Aasim's opinions, I apologized. Then you proceeded to respond with more than "you closed your own ANI". Thanks, Another Wiki User the 2nd (talk, contribs) (talk) 19:21, 12 September 2023 (UTC)

Page Move Issue
Hi, I am not sure if this is the correct place to ask for help but if it is, I accidentally moved the wrong page can you please revert this. History6042 (talk) 20:39, 24 September 2023 (UTC)


 * @History6042 I've done that now. Moneytrees🏝️(Talk) 20:43, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you. History6042 (talk) 20:44, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

Procedural question on what to do when finding copyvios
Hi. I'm never sure what the appropriate course of action is for copyvios and since I come across them a fair bit, I thought I should ask you. This one is the most recent. Is this the sort of thing that requires revdeleting? Incidentally, I'm often surprised that people can be closely discussing copyvio text without pulling it, as here. -- SashiRolls 🌿 ·     🍥 06:56, 25 September 2023 (UTC)


 * @SashiRolls Yeah that's a copyright violation for sure (the 2017 ip edit that added it is an obvious paste) and it should be removed, but since it's on the smaller side and there's a lot of intervening edits, I don't think it needs to be revision deleted. If it was larger, like a few paragraphs, then I think revdel would be warrented. Thank you, Moneytrees🏝️(Talk) 20:23, 25 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the feedback. That's usually roughly the size of things I find (not all that often, really, but often enough), so I'm glad to know that just reverting them is sufficient. --  SashiRolls 🌿 ·     🍥 20:28, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
 * @SashiRolls no problem, and if you want meatier things there's always Contributor copyright investigations/Sayerslle... Moneytrees🏝️(Talk) 20:34, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

Another Wiki User, talk page access
Are you monitoring 's use of their talk page? They don't seem to understand why their block was instated. They seem to still be treating Wikipedia like a game on their talk page. Awesome Aasim 14:53, 5 October 2023 (UTC)


 * @Awesome Aasim Yeah, but some of their recent posting has been in response to you. I think it's best to just leave their talk page alone and wait until they appeal. If they continue to post silliness, I'll revoke it. Moneytrees🏝️(Talk) 15:01, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

Worried
Thought I'd let slip some arcane knowledge there or something! Girth Summit  (blether) 20:08, 16 October 2023 (UTC)


 * @Girth Summit No, I was just checking my watchlist for a few seconds with live updates on, I went to click something but your edit and the associated rollback prompt appeared as I was clicking it... Moneytrees🏝️(Talk) 20:10, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

why
You removed the following for no attribution:

She was so well known by the 1920s that a Harlem Renaissance poet, Georgia Douglas Johnson, wrote a poem about her. The poem was rather contrary and spoke about her professional difficulties and how they could have resulted from her grim outlook on life; but also suggests that she deserved more praise and attention than she was getting. The poem, "To May Howard Jackson, Sculptor," is as follows, (Kirschke),
 * You saw the vision in the face of clay


 * And fixed it through the magic of a hand


 * Obedient unto the will's command


 * In forms impervious to Time's decay:


 * Historian of bloods that interplay


 * Confusedly within a cryptic land


 * You've Chiseled, and your work of art shall stand


 * To gem the archives of a better day
 * Alone, far from the touch of kindred mind


 * You've mounted with a grim, determined zeal,


 * Despite environment austere, unkind,


 * Or frozen fingers clenched to your appeal


 * You've held the ardor of your first ideal


 * Robed in queenly majesty, resaned

I'm here to ask 'why'CaptJayRuffins (talk) 11:28, 20 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Hello @CaptJayRuffins, at the time I made that edit with a rather idiotic and regrettable edit summary, I was reviewing articles that had been edited by BeeCeePhoto, who had been blocked for copyright/plagiarism issues. Looking back over the edits they had made to May_Howard_Jackson, they didn't have to do with that passage though. While it isn't cited inline, the person who said it is attributed so it's not such a big deal really, with the experience I have now I probably wouldn't have removed it. If you want to re add it with a citation I have no objection. Moneytrees🏝️(Talk) 21:06, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

Question
I'm already past my word count at arb com and cant pose the question there, so I am just going to ask you here. Are there going to be checks done to ensure Lourdes is not operating sleeper accounts? Noah, AATalk 14:24, 2 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Nvm appears answered my question there. Noah, AATalk 15:36, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Yeah @Hurricane Noah, in cases like this you can usually count on someone having run a check. Moneytrees🏝️(Talk) 16:03, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
 * As they say, it's better to be safe than sorry. Noah, AATalk 16:06, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

Question about CCI
Hi, you said in your CCI guide that text can't be imported under cc-by-sa-4.0, but this contrasts information here. I think it has changed due to the recent upgrade of licence. — MATRIX! (a good person!)&#91;citation unneeded&#93; 18:54, 2 November 2023 (UTC)


 * @Matrix Thanks, I thought I had fixed that a few months ago. Moneytrees🏝️(Talk) 22:50, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

I agree with your comment re RfA
Hi MoneyTrees, I didn't want to clutter up the RfA for 0xDeadbeef, but wanted to let you know that I agree with your comment that it's good to see the community backing away from exorbitantly high expectations for admin candidates. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 21:39, 28 October 2023 (UTC)


 * @Mr Serjeant Buzfuz Thank you, I'm not sure if this will stick but one can hope. Moneytrees🏝️(Talk) 20:10, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I agree with the thanks! - Towards the end of the month, I thought of Brian Bouldton, and his ways to compromise, - with musings about peace there, - feel free to join. Hevenu shalom aleichem. Today is Reformation Day, and I believe that reformation is a work in progress. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:27, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
 * And now I see that Moneytrees has been quoted in the Signpost! I share your befuddlement. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 05:32, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
 * (Link to the story) Yes @Mr Serjeant Buzfuz, it's probably the strangest thing to happen during my service on Arbcom. Moneytrees🏝️(Talk) 02:03, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for quoting me on Twitter Annie Moneytrees🏝️(Talk) 20:11, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for quoting me on Twitter Annie Moneytrees🏝️(Talk) 20:11, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Contributor clean-up/Qworty
Hi Moneytrees, I stumbled across the Qworty cleanup project. Since you were the last person to check one of Qworty's edits, just wanted to let you know that I've gone through all of his sock edits and cleaned up the few that were somehow still remaining after 15+ years, meaning one of the 4 pages (albeit the shortest one) is all finished. Sgubaldo (talk) 22:20, 22 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much @Sgubaldo, it's important work. I've meant to get to it, but I've been busy with other stuff- it's one of those things that's become a rainy day activity. Moneytrees🏝️(Talk) 23:04, 23 November 2023 (UTC)