User talk:Moneytrees/Archive 7

RFA
Thank you for your patience while the bureaucrats discussed your recent RFA. I am pleased to announce that it has been closed with a consensus to promote. There are a few things we had to say regarding your promotion, so please read through the 'chat and let us know if you have any questions or concerns. Congrats! Primefac (talk) 23:49, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Cool, glad it worked out for the best in the end! El_C 23:55, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Congratulations. Hopefully the crat chat being so long wasn't too agonising :). Happy mopping (and editing), Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 00:02, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Oh damn! Thank you! Money emoji💵Talk💸Help out at CCI! 00:06, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Ahh! All these new buttons are weird.... Money emoji💵Talk💸Help out at CCI! 00:09, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Congratulations! Here's a page of exercises – you can experiment with the new buttons: Administrators' guide. It took me a while but I found a T-shirt in your size .— Diannaa (talk) 00:23, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Gog the Mild (talk) 00:24, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Oh my god, a Travis Scott reference! Apoorv Chauhan (talk) 00:53, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
 * , Oh my, oh my.... It looks like I'll be up for a long time, long time..... Money emoji💵Talk💸Help out at CCI! 00:55, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Oh my, oh my what a wonderful time! Apoorv Chauhan (talk) 01:07, 23 February 2020 (UTC)


 * You've been cool and collected throughout this ordeal – and it has been an ordeal – and I'm as confident as ever that my vote, and the community's decision, were correct. Have fun, don't get burned out, and feel free to ping me if you ever botch anything and need a helping hand. –  Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 00:55, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Congrats! And congrats again for surviving the CRATCHAT! Try not to accidentally press the 900 extra buttons - before I became I had no sympathy for admins who'd undone actions because they'd accidentally triggered something, ttil I realised how easy it might be! Nosebagbear (talk) 01:18, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
 * , Thanks, you don't say..... I thought it would be less convoluted! Money emoji💵Talk💸Help out at CCI! 01:21, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Old saying... hope for the best, expect the worst, plan for both. I hope your tenure as an admin will be rewarding and helpful!  PI Ellsworth   ed.  put'r there 01:33, 23 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Hey, congrats! I'm so glad you passed! You'll do fantastic, great to have another admin at CCI. (Although that is an area I myself don't frequent often.) Congratulations! Puddleglum  2.0  01:29, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Congratulations! If you ever have any questions about the tools etc, please don't hesitate to reach out. I would recommend looking through some admins' commons.js files for useful scripts as well. Mine is a great start :P Mark-blocked script and user highlight (for that see my css) are two of my favourites these days. -- The SandDoctor Talk 02:32, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
 * My most heartfelt congratulations! I was at the wedding of a good friend of mine today, and during a break between dances, I took a second to check on the status of your 'crat chat... I admire how you kept your cool during what must have been an incredibly stressful RfA. I wish you good luck with your wiki-career as an admin! Best, L293D (☎ • ✎) 03:09, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Congrats on your successful RfA, Money! Hopefully it’ll come in handy with your work at CCI! I still can't believe how many on-wiki friends from when I first started are admins now.  OhKayeSierra (talk) 03:53, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Congratulations! The copyright problems are waiting in eager anticipation - I just deleted the 14 year old copyvios you reported at Copyright problems/2020 February 15 but found two more... MER-C 10:48, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Congrats, it did take a while. Hope the CCI would immensely benefit with your admin bits. cheers. -- ⋙–D Big X ray ᗙ  11:03, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Congratulations for adminship !!  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 12:11, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Congrats. That was the squeakiest of the squeakers. - MrX 🖋 16:00, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Congrats! – Wikipedia has absolutely deserved your admin bit ;-) Good luck! Best, Tymon. r  Do you have any questions?  16:38, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Congratulations on your adminship, from one admin candidate who squeaked by RfA to another :) GorillaWarfare (talk) 21:13, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Hey, I was bringing you an admin t-shirt but see you already have one! Congratulations, Money! I know the anxiousness of being subject to a crat chat and knew you'd pass an RfA this time or next. You had a lot of support. Please read over the pages of the admin manual (Administrators' guide) and do not hesitate to ask questions from any of the veteran admins, particularly in the areas they focus on. Good luck! Liz Read! Talk! 00:02, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Congratulations! Well deserved.  --rogerd (talk) 00:25, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
 * - Meal do naidheachd! (sounds like a curse, but it's actually Scots Gaelic for "Congratulations!")  - Mark D Worthen PsyD   (talk)   (I'm a man—traditional male pronouns are fine.)  21:19, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

Congrats indeed! ♦ Dr. Blofeld  20:15, 25 February 2020 (UTC)

Theophostic counseling
I'm sorry, I missed adding the copvio/bottom template to Theophostic counseling. I hardly ever find/report copyvio, and didn't realise anything was wrong until just now when I was trying to figure out why the rest of the article wasn't visible. It's only the 'Principles' section that's a copyright problem. I hope this doesn't make more work for you. BlackcurrantTea (talk) 15:53, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
 * , Oh it's fine, CP has archaic rules and strange templates. I've (or you've, really) solved the issue; I should have removed the CP notice, since you had already removed the copyvio when you placed the notice and I revdel'd the history. Money emoji💵Talk💸Help out at CCI! 16:09, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks, that's a relief. I know that there's no shortage of copyright investigations & cleanup, and I'd hate to add to that unnecessarily. Cheers, BlackcurrantTea (talk) 16:23, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

Liang Yi Museum
Thanks for your previous action at Liang Yi Museum, addressing a copyvio issue that I had reported. Users likely linked to the museum are engaged in an edit war, removing all tags and insisting to post copyrighted + promotional material. Assistance on the matter would be appreciated. Thanks! Underwaterbuffalo (talk) 11:00, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
 * , no problem. I should have watchlisted the page so I could have intervened in that ip nonsense, sorry. I’ll try and tackle it when earwig decides to work; it’s having problems right now. Money emoji💵Talk💸Help out at CCI! 11:21, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

Naval Striking and Support Forces NATO
I wrote using a personal copy of the official command history from when I was there for the period up to the end of the Cold War. I wrote summaries of information from other wiki pages and multiple NATO, USN, and news sources. Can you tell me where the copyright issue is, please?Hhfjbaker (talk) 17:48, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
 * , The copyright issue was from http://sfn.nato.int/about/history.aspx, the edit was marked as a violation and appeared at copypatrol (https://tools.wmflabs.org/copypatrol/en/?id=55833407). Clicking on the ithenticate report will show some close phrasing, some of which I think is acceptable, some is a bit too much. Money emoji💵Talk💸Help out at CCI! 19:26, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
 * It can be tricky sometimes. You might find WP:Close paraphrasing helpful, as well as the guidelines linked at the top of it. BlackcurrantTea (talk) 19:43, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

Okay, thanks! Is copypatrol available to everyone? Hhfjbaker (talk) 20:22, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Yep. As long as you have an account: https://tools.wmflabs.org/copypatrol/en Money emoji💵Talk💸Help out at CCI! 21:03, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

Thank you to you both! Happy camper here. Hhfjbaker (talk) 21:29, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

They say you haven't truly lived
...until you find a way to block yourself from part of wikipedia! Nosebagbear (talk) 10:12, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I clicked on the block button like "Oh what does this do?" I thought I could unblock myself, but I guess not. Money emoji💵Talk💸Help out at CCI! 11:23, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I was wondering the other day whether I could block myself, and this was easier than reading through documentation pages. Thanks for taking one for the team! — Wug·a·po·des​ 20:52, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

Tee
As you have already been active on this article... please see Special:Contributions/Ggg5078 – the same copyrighted info is being persistently re-added to the article. A couple of revisions need to be hidden and further action maybe required to prevent continued disruption. Thanks. wjemather please leave a message... 10:21, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
 * , Blocked and rev's deleted. I'm not sure why he was so adamant about adding the same copyvio over and over again.... Money emoji💵Talk💸Help out at CCI! 11:38, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
 * The corresponding user page User:Ggg5078 consists of an unattributed quotation from https://www.golfdigest.com/story/puttout-putting-trainer-is-simple-approach-to-making-the-putts-that-are-supposed-to-be-simple, just so you know. Not sure what to do with it, though. (G11? G12? MfD? Edit to attribute the source? It's not so long that it would be a problem if it were an attributed quotation in the context of an article, I suppose, not that the tone is suitable.) —&#123;&#123;u&#124;Goldenshimmer&#125;&#125; (they/them)｜Talk｜Contributions 23:04, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
 * , I have deleted said userpage under G12. Its not attributed, has no claim of fair use, and is a direct copy and paste of a paragraph. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 23:48, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

Admin Advice
It may seem that I am looking to "high" right now, but what is your advice if I want to become an admin one day? -- Thegooduser  Life Begins With a Smile :)  🍁 00:12, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
 * , I'll gladly email you some advice. Money emoji💵Talk💸Help out at CCI! 00:27, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Ok -- Thegooduser  Life Begins With a Smile :)  🍁 00:28, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the email, I will check it later on as I cannot access it right now -- Thegooduser  Life Begins With a Smile :)  🍁 01:25, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
 * , Yeah, it's pretty long, feel free to set time aside for it. Money emoji💵Talk💸Help out at CCI! 01:25, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

MassMessage sender
Saw you're a mass message sender; as an admin, you should already be able to send mass messages without the extra user group. If you cannot, please let me know and I'll file a bug report. Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 06:46, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
 * , Yeah, I gave it to myself because I didn't realize I could, no bugs here 😅 Money emoji💵Talk💸Help out at CCI! 15:40, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

Hi Money, I am writing with reference to Draft:National Inter-University Consortium for Telecommunications.

I am the author of that text; it is true that I translated it from Italian, but I am the author of that text as well and of course it says very similar things.

I am also the original author of the description itself, being the current director of that organization, which includes about 1300 Italian professor, more than 100 own employees, it has a recognized international activity and an intense research record and I think it deserves to be on Wikipedia like other (smaller) institutions.

Please let me know how can I address your specific comments re copyright

Thank you for your attention

82.59.70.138 (talk) 13:55, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

Drink Without Waste
Hi,

Thank you for your copyright infringement concerns regarding the "Drink Without Waste" Wikipedia page. I had not yet gotten around to quoting the sources (from the Drink Without Waste Wikipedia page). Would it be possible to reactivate the content that was deleted so that I can add the footnotes/references now, instead of having to start from scratch and re-uploading the content?

Thank you in advance for your help.

Best regards, DWW20 — Preceding unsigned comment added by DWW20 (talk • contribs) 09:18, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
 * spamu hard blocked. Username seems to be the acronym of the promotional copyvio page they created for the company Drink Without Waste plus the year of account creation (i.e. 2020 so 20). Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 13:52, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

Tee
Hi. Please see this edit:. Seems obvious block avoidance to reinstate the same copyrighted material. Thanks. <sub style="color:#0D5218;">wjemather <sup style="color:#520D0D;">please leave a message... 12:09, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
 * , Blocked. Not sure why this guy is so bent on inserting the same violations over and over. Money emoji💵Talk💸Help out at CCI! 15:56, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

Nice name!
Like the new name :) CaptainEek  Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 03:36, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
 * , Yes, I like it too; now I get to put this little palm tree 🌴 everywhere. The name is a reference to the Kendrick Lamar song of the same name. I was considering User:NeverCatchMe, also a reference to the fantastic Kendrick Lamar/Flying Lotus song (which has one of the best bass solos ever!) and the Travis Scott song, but it was too off brand; I was afraid people wouldn't recognize me and would instead think I was some returning troll. Moneytrees🌴Talk🌲Help out at CCI! 03:57, 26 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Well, this is a surprise! Hello, Moneytrees! Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 04:04, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
 * ♫That's just how I feel — yeah, yeah.♫ El_C 04:13, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Nice name. I like that it's close to the original, so it's easy to recognize you; IIRC you had hinted at a username change in your RfA. <b style="color:#060">L293D</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b> • <b style="color:#000">✎</b>) 01:18, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I actually cited this exact username in an answer. I meant to do it before the RFA but it required an usurpation, so I decided to do it afterwards. Moneytrees🌴Talk🌲Help out at CCI! 02:32, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

Barclays
Hi Thanks for the note about copyright infringement. Just to clarify, did I take too much content from the two newspapers? Would it be better if I used a shorter summary? Or is there something else I haven't understood? Employee surveillance seems a current issue, Amazon being the most noteworthy user, so I felt the Barclays activity was worth adding. With thanks for your advice. Sadgrove (talk) 16:45, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
 * , The information itself and the edit summary were fine, the copyright problem related to how much text was taken from the guardian article; see the copypatrol report and click on the iThenticate report to see the problem. Moneytrees🌴Talk🌲Help out at CCI! 16:54, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

You like humor jokes directed at you?
So April 1st. Last year, there was a serious RfA. Now, what if there was a joke RfDA directed towards you? Would you be okay if someone did this to you? How open are you to this type of joke? PLEASE copy and paste the code to reply (Talk) 22:22, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * , I thank you for the offer, and I don't mind jokes directed at myself (Or humor in general), but I feel as though might be seen as disruptive. It sounds funny and would probably be funny a few years from now, but one of the main concerns in my rfa was maturity, so I'll politely decline for now. Moneytrees🌴Talk🌲Help out at CCI! 23:52, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Okay. Well, I have the copypaste ready to go if you change your mind. For now, please participate in THE FIRST EVER REQUEST FOR DE-ADMINSHIP! PLEASE copy and paste the code to reply (Talk) 00:15, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

April fool's day crisis
Can you please look at this page protection request and make a decision whether to protect the page or not? This is a bit urgent, since dozens of editors, including me, are tired of reverting all the vandalism and edit warring that is happening on this page. Thanks. Aasim 03:08, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
 * now, thanks Aasim 03:09, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Can you re-install my Sandbox so I can move all the work off line and continue to work there until its ready for publishing?
To know what its about, here is part of a discussion from the Teahouse today:

I have been saving material for days in my Sandbox, so that I eventually could write an article! And now all is gone!! It seems like someone called Creffett have deleted it! When I tried to contest the nomination for speedy deletion by visiting the page suggested, I just end up at my empty sandbox. As far as I understand you are able to write and experiment how much you want in your own sandbox, so I don't understand why anyone would go there and delete it?!? Specially without any prior discussion! If I had published the article, it would be another thing but it was far from ready for publication. I'm new here and I feel trample on and unwelcome at Wikipedia by this incident. How can I get the information back? Zzophia (talk) 11:12, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Zzophia, as the material was copyright infringing, we can't host it in any way, as we would be violating copyright law by doing so. Although users have a fair amount of freedom to do what they want in sandboxes, copyright law overrides this. An admin may be willing to email you the contents of the sandbox - you could ask the deleting admin, or ask at wp:refund. Alex Noble/1-2/TRB 11:18, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

How to possibly avoid this problem

Zzophia, I feel your pain. Wikipedia reviewers and the likes tend to lean towards the negative before they give you a chance. I am guessing it is a power trip of some sort, even if unintentional. As to your issue, another person I know who has created several articles in Wikipedia told me they draft their articles in Notepad++, then when it is ready they toss it into their sandbox. If you did something similar, you may be able to avoid any copyright issues, which should increase your chances of actually helping this beast called wikipedia. RobertJTurner (talk) 11:46, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Alex Noble, :RobertJTurner, thanks to both of you. I had copied sources, made them into block quotes and made a correct source description of each one, to remember where the original information was from so not to get confused I would write the article. It was a work in progress and of course I was not going to publish it that way, that's why it was still unpublished in my Sandbox. If someone had talked to me about it prior to deleting, I could easily have made changes accordingly to what's acceptable for Wikipedia and moved the unacceptable parts somewhere outside WP. Deleting someone's Sandbox without a discussion and a chance to make amendments seems destructive instead of helpful and inclusive. I don't understand how to contact :Creffett so Ill try to see if wp:refund can help me get the Sandbox back.Zzophia (talk) 12:23, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

RobertJTurner: " I am guessing it is a power trip of some sort" ouch, that was uncalled for. Zzophia: I saw your message on my talk page but I will reply here. First, I am not the deleting administrator, I only nominated it for deletion (I am not an admin, so I can neither delete pages nor retrieve deleted pages) - the actual deleting administrator was Moneytrees. Second, while your sandbox is indeed "your space," it is still subject to some of Wikipedia's bigger policies, and one of those is the copyright policy. As far as I could tell, the entire sandbox was copied from a variety of other websites. That's copyright violation, and is not allowed anywhere on Wikipedia - not only is it against Wikipedia policy, but it actually can expose Wikipedia to legal action. That is why there is a speedy deletion criterion for unambiguous copyright violation: it is very bad and we want it gone as soon as possible. You can contact Moneytrees to request a copy of the deleted article, but I can't guarantee that they will give it to you. creffett (talk) 12:52, 1 April 2020 (UTC) Zzophia (talk) 21:04, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
 * , I've emailed you a copy of your sandbox. Moneytrees🌴Talk🌲Help out at CCI! 22:22, 1 April 2020 (UTC)