User talk:Moni3/Archive 3

Patience and Sarah
Hi, I thought I'd alert you to the fact that the image for one of your articles is erroneous. I'm not that proficient in Wikifiddling with images — I don't know whether you want to just revert the revert (that ain't my war to be starting), or retrieve it somehow, or re-upload — I just thought I'd inform you of it anyway. Yohan euan o4 (talk) 11:15, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Sorry...
...to bother you, but I need your help with an image. Again. :-P You see, I've began translating the Vin Packer article, and it'd be great if that image was available at Commons. *Hint hint* Maybe I could persuade you with my special brew of eggnog? ;-) Raystorm   (¿Sí?)  15:43, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, I did *something*. There's a tag on the WP photo that says it's available now in Commons, but when I click on the link it says it doesn't exist. So...doyyy. I don't know what happened, or what to do...--Moni3 (talk) 15:58, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I am told that odds are you haven't moved it to Commons yet. You did it wonderfully last time, remember? *Persuasive mode ON* XD Please try again? That move tool hates me, it's never worked for me, not even once. Snif... Raystorm   (¿Sí?)  18:34, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
 * LIES!!! Or maybe just me not knowing what the hell I'm doing. Though, look 2 posts down and see someone trying to figure it out... I sent it. --Moni3 (talk) 19:18, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I got some more input at Commons. :-P However, no matter how many times I read it over, I can't figure out what Tony Willis is trying to say... I think he is speaking wikiEnglish, but... XD He sorta lost me when he started mentioning technical stuff. Oh brother, will we ever get to see this image at Commons? :-P Raystorm   (¿Sí?)  18:27, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I've now uploaded the image to Commons. /Lokal_Profil 19:13, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Jodi Foster
I'll follow the Wiki Biography rules. Also, I see you're not a clown lover; my phobia is vantriliquist puppets. I'll never have one in my room, while I'm sleeping. GoodDay (talk) 18:49, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, I have quite some discomfort with ventriloquist puppets and dolls. Though, as inanimate objects, they do no offend as much as someone who chooses to dress up and resemble death, then mug comically to children. What an obscene concept are clowns, indeed. *shiver* --Moni3 (talk) 19:16, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Image:Marijane Meaker in 2007.jpg
Hi. Could you please forward the permission e-mail to permissions@wikimedia.org. Thanks. /Lokal_Profil 19:06, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I forwarded the email where I got a ticket number for the permissions. Please let me know if there is anything more you require. --Moni3 (talk) 19:14, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
 * If you could add the permission # to the above image that would be good. =) /Lokal_Profil 01:56, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I think I did it correctly, but I'm not sure. Clearly my experience in this is limited. I placed it under the GNU license. --Moni3 (talk) 13:51, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Everything looks fine now. Thanks =) /Lokal_Profil 17:21, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
Hey Moni, no matter what opinion you ultimately form, I appreciate that you asked for more info about asexuality rather than just dismissing the issue out of hand. Thanks for that! :) Aleta (talk) 20:02, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
 * No problem at all. I do tend to ask an annoying amount of questions if I don't quite get something and it's not spoon fed to me. I also appreciate that you're trying to improve the project as well. So rock on! --Moni3 (talk) 20:09, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Have a cuppa!
Ha! No problem at all! Thanks for all the translations. Is there more booze than egg in my nog? It will truly be a merry Christmas if so... I should reciprocate with a bowl of Christmas grits or something... --Moni3 (talk) 13:36, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the grits! And hey, you did all the tough work, I had the (relatively) easy part! It is my 6th FA there, but hey, who's counting? ;-D Thanks again mate! Raystorm   (¿Sí?)  18:27, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, well it's like exchange rate. Like $1,000 Canadian dollars equals .35 American cents and stuff...Or something. --Moni3 (talk) 18:33, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Evil XD Raystorm   (¿Sí?)  19:44, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

A hopefully polite discussion about your revision
Hello, I would just like to clarify your revision to my edit to To Kill a Mockingbird.


 * In literature, a theme is a broad idea in a story, or a message or lesson conveyed by a work. This message is usually about life, society or human nature. Themes are the fundamental and often universal ideas explored in a literary work. Themes are usually implied rather than explicitly stated.

Please explain how "tragedy", or any other one word... word, for that matter, can possibly fit this description. Wizard of Yendor (talk) 22:45, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
 * The writer in question, RA Dave, wrote an essay about how every character in the book somehow faces or will face defeat. Not that two lovers, as in Romeo and Juliet, will never be together and must die, but every single character. I understand that tragedy is a genre of drama, and a tone, but the writer's point in his essay, entitled "Harper Lee's Tragic Vision" is that everyone must face their own personal defeat. It is RA Dave, the author of the essay that defines the theme as tragedy, not me. I would have left it at your edit to "tone" over theme if it was not connected to a source. Does that answer your question? (I'm all about polite, btw - clearly I would be working on the wrong book if not.) --Moni3 (talk) 23:00, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
 * The first time I read it, it made no sense at all... so I resisted an impulse to recklessly challenge you on that. After reading your reply through five times, I am forced to conclude that it does indeed make sense. Thanks for the clarification, though I still strongly disagree with how "tragedy" is a theme :) Wizard of Yendor (talk) 23:22, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Counties versus counties
County is capitalized when it is the name of one county. Broward County, Miami-Dade County, Alachua County, but when they are strung together, it is not capitalized, e.g. Broward, Miami-Dade and Alachua counties. The same rule covers things such as streets, e.g., First Street, Second Street, etc., when combined become First and Second streets. Former English teacher clariosophic (talk) 03:52, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm a former writing and social studies teacher (yay!). Can you convince me by showing me the rule so I will shut up? Is there a grammar website? MLA? Something like that? (Thx for your vote for reassessing Douglas' importance, btw.) --Moni3 (talk) 03:57, 20 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Reference: Goldstein, Norm, editor, Associated Press Stylebook and Briefing on Media Law, Cambridge, Massachusetts: Perseus Press (2000) p. 61, states: County Capitalize when an integral part of a proper name: Dade County, Nassau County, Suffolk County ... Lowercase plural combinations: Westchester and Rockland counties. clariosophic (talk) 04:13, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
 * An online reference: http://home.comcast.net/~garbl/stylemanual/c.htm Lowercase common noun elements of names in all plural uses: etc. clariosophic (talk) 04:33, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Hmph. I like my rules better...Sour grapes and all... Thanks for indulging me. --Moni3 (talk) 04:38, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
 * No problem. We all make mistakes. No one knows everything. Just remember the goal is a better article. Keep up the good work! clariosophic (talk) 04:44, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Marjory Stoneman Douglas
Moni3 - I see you have done a massive amount of work on this article in the last few days. In general I think it is well written and indicates you have done a lot of research on her life. There is one point that I feel is controversial - the reference to her sexual activity. I would like to see this omitted. I think it is unnecessary and inappropriate. GroveGuy (talk) 19:31, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I saw that. Why do you want it omitted? There are quite a few details about her life that aren't necessarily positive things - she made up some of her stories, she had nervous breakdowns, she drank, and she rarely visited the Everglades she spent so much of her time and energy defending, so why this detail? I think it makes her all the more interesting. She wrote about the fact that the last time she had sex was 1915, and she told reporters, so the statement is verifiable and it's in the "personal life" section, and it's clearly a fact about her personal life. That makes it difficult to deem it inappropriate and unnecessary. The woman held no punches and didn't apparently give a crap what she told people - I can only hope to be this outspoken at her age - or honestly, get to her age. --Moni3 (talk) 19:49, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

I have been thinking about this situation over the last couple of days. While I still feel it is inappropriate I want to try to have an open mind and I will try to look into your sources. I see you favor Grunwald. I have just bought a copy of The Swamp. While I do not think that much of Klinkenberg I will look at his article too. Meanwhile, I have fixed a couple of errors and put up a much nicer picture of the book. GroveGuy (talk) 09:28, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I appreciate your open mind. It's not so much that I favor Grunwald, but he wrote a pretty good book and it was available at the library. I'm not done researching. This is just how far I am right now. Thanks for the help and for the cleaner photo. --Moni3 (talk) 14:04, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Moni3 - Wow. I am impressed by the amount of work you have put in on this MSD article. I have a couple of things that I think should be added - but maybe you could fit them in better than I could. These are things that I can’t document completely. Want to do more research ? (1) University of Miami. She taught occasional writing courses in the English department. She founded the Friends of the University of Miami Library and was its first President in 1960. In 1960 she was appointed Editor of the University of Miami Press. In 1964 she reached ‘mandatory retirement age’ and was replaced. [Tebeau. University of Miami. Coral Gables: University of Miami, 1976]. (2) Fairchild Tropical Garden. She was one of the founders (? instigators ?). Rich and famous people lent their names and money to this institution. But somebody had to do all the work. Guess who that was. From its founding until at least 1947 she was the Secretary of Fairchild Tropical Garden. Also, beginning in 1945 she started and was the editor of The FTG Bulletin until 1950. [Wait. Fairchild Tropical Garden. New York: Ronald Press, 1948 and Zuckerman. The Dream Lives On. Miami: Fairchild Tropical Garden, 1988.]. (3) In the ‘60’s she ran her own publishing house. It was called Hurricane House. The earliest publication on ABE I can find was SPONGE PIRATES AND OTHER FLORIDA KEY STORIES (1962). The last was PLANTS POISONOUS TO PEOPLE… (1971). I think I remember someone told me she established Hurricane House in order to bring EVERGLADES back into print. GroveGuy (talk) 06:01, 6 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the note. She's fun to read and write about. Of course, I'm not finished with it. I need to find some stuff, particularly some information criticizing her since it is quite full of praise right now. I'm going to find that, hopefully, at the library in books about the Everglades, hoping to get some contentious engineers or sugar farmers on record.
 * I used her autobiography quite a bit. If you have access to references that aren't already cited, go ahead and use them. I'm a big believer in reference diversity. It's going to take me a while to get back to the library since I'm working on a few different articles. I was just going over it once more, trying to see if there was information that needed to be added or cut. Sometimes I get all excited and add too much. Of course, she did live to be 108 years old...
 * There's already mention in the article about her being editor at the UM Press, her involvement with and Fairchild Botanical Garden. I'd find a reference fro the Hurricane House. It's my understanding that River of Grass never went out of print.
 * Another issue I noted is the lead photo has no template and may be deleted. I don't know if photos from the Florida Archives are fair use, or if we have to get permission to use them. It wouldn't be the first time I begged to use a photo, and I would actually like to add a few more I found at the Florida Memory Project. --Moni3 (talk) 06:14, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Birmingham campaign photos
Please see Talk:Birmingham campaign for my responses. Hope that helps! Carcharoth (talk) 12:35, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Happy holidays!
Hey there! Many happy wishes to you as well. I indeed got four original copies of Ann Bannon's books, including The Marriage, which I have never read before because it's not ever been reprinted. (I get to go have her sign them in February! Yay!!) Feliz Navidad! Let me know if you get something really good. :) --Moni3 (talk) 19:54, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

"Fortune befriends the bold"
Thanks so much re: Emily Dickinson! I saw that you had nominated And the Band Played On for GA, which is also a very worthy subject. Best of luck and happy holidays. :) María ( habla con migo ) 23:42, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Birmingham Campaign
Thank you very much! I hope I have done the subject justice. --Moni3 (talk) 14:26, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

deviantART GA
Hey, thanks so much (I'm dan14lev on deviantart btw) - Those are some good points that I will definitely address. I told myself I would fix the before I submitted it, but I forgot. What should I do now, because I'm about to leave my computer and won't have time to fix it. Could I put the nomination on hold myself, or should I remove it? -- Dan Leveille TALK 06:37, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
 * How long are you going out for? I've seen quick fails come back within 10 minutes. You might want to de-nominate it for now (I know that totally sucks...I worked my ass off on To Kill a Mockingbird and had to de-nominate it from a featured article candidate). I would address the four points I brought up, and let me see if I can find some information from news sources. There are three GA articles for websites - two are YouTube and Google. Granted, those sites are just huge, but you can read through them and kind of get a taste of how well documented the information is in these articles. Even small articles can be GAs if they're well-documented.
 * You might also want to add WikiProject:Internet Culture to the talk page. I was surprised that the article isn't under any particular projects. It should be under internet projects and art projects. --Moni3 (talk) 06:43, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Sounds good. I'll remove the nomination and resubmit it later. I'm actually not that familiar with Wikiprojects yet. I'll have to look into them :) Thanks. -- Dan Leveille TALK 06:49, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I tagged the talk page with Internet culture and Visual arts. They're good for referencing other articles that may be similar to the ones you want to work on, so you can see how others have worked on their articles. You might also get some folks in to assist you who may know about the topic, too. If you go to the project talk pages and read through them to see if they're helpful, leave a message and ask for assistance. I'll keep watching the dA article, and I may add stuff to it. --Moni3 (talk) 06:53, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Question - what does LONG mean on the GAN list? I was looking and couldn't find any explanation for it. (BTW, I've cleaned up the dA article and renominated it.) -- Dan Leveille TALK 21:57, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
 * LONG indicates an article that is well over 34 k - sometimes around 45 k. At around 31 k, when you go to edit the article, at the top of the edit page it will say, This page is XXk long (If you go to Birmingham campaign and click on edit, see the top of the page). There is a loose guideline to split an article at 50k, but that depends how much information you have in it. The LONG in a GA candidate lets a potential reviewer know that the article is full of detail and will take some time to read and review. --Moni3 (talk) 22:09, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Ohhhh alright, good to know :) -- Dan Leveille TALK 02:07, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

On hold
And the Band Played On is on hold. Please go to the talkpage, and follow the instructions as required to pass the article. Thanks, and good luck! FamicomJL (talk) 18:55, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
 * It has been passed! Congratulations! FamicomJL (talk) 23:00, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

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Re: Potential Project
Thanks so much for your note. As we're still in the infant stages (my students do not even return to school until tomorrow), I'm not sure how much help we could be to you with your author, but I know we could certainly use your help and guidance. At the talk page and history of TKaM, I noticed that you were a driving force in bringing that article to GA status. We could certainly use the input from an experienced and talented editor such as yourself. My students will be working mainly in userspace for a bit, and editing only to revert vandalism and add minor changes in the project space until they get a real feel for what they are doing. We'll workshop their articles in their user space until we feel they're ready for the project, when we'll upload them in their entirety. We'll mainly be working on improving the articles of our favorite booksa and authors if they have one already, or adding articles for those that do not. Does this sound at all interesting to you? If so, we can perhaps work on starting a project along those lines. Regards, Bellwether B  C  22:32, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, working on TKaM is both rewarding and frustrating. But I would be happy to help. I can assist with initial reviews in what the GA review folks might want to see. If you have a few students who don't actually know what to start an article on, perhaps you can suggest M. E. Kerr, who has won multiple awards for her young adult fiction. For some reason I taught 9 years and somehow missed all of her juvenile fiction. Other than that, I'm a huge believer in passion-based exploration. Let me know what I can do to help. --Moni3 (talk) 22:41, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure if we're going to be able to get anything to GA, unless it's an already existing article that we are trying to improve. My students will probably be more about creating high quality start-class/B-class articles, with an eye toward improving them incrementally. As for Kerr, I will certainly point a few of my students toward her. She looks like quite an interesting author! I will certainly be in touch soon, as I'm sure we will need to make use of your expertise and talents. Thanks, Bellwether B  C  23:00, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
 * After now writing 4 GAs, an FA, and two more FAs in the works, I have to say "Pish!" to doubting your students can get it to GA status. Once the hang of it is gotten, it's just a matter of work and attention to detail. However, I'll do what I can to provide guidance. Again, just let me know! --Moni3 (talk) 23:04, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I am probably being too pessimistic. I just finished a cycle of evaluating their writing, though, and it's not great right now, which is one reason I thought of this idea. I would really like to see them improve their writing and reasoning skills through this process. Thanks for the encouragement, and I'm certain we'll be utilizing your help with the finer points of becoming good Wikipedians. Thanks again! Bellwether B  C  23:11, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Peer Reviews
Happy New Year, Moni3! It's been a while since we last contacted each other (at Talk:To Kill a Mockingbird), but I thought I could solicit your assistance. I've submitted two articles for peer review, and thought that you might be of some help in critiquing them: I value your input. Thanks. — Cinemaniac (talk •  contribs) 18:48, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Duck Soup. I've listed this article for peer review because, even though I and other editors have contributed much information and references, I'm certain that there are other aspects of this classic film that have yet to be covered. I'd like to hear feedback from you, so that I can get help in improving this (and other Marx Brothers films) quality.
 * Princess Leia Organa. I've listed this article for peer review because it right now seems oddly cluttered and, despite a lot of references as of now, lacks reliable source citations. Although I've already requested another peer review, as long as it helps the articles get better, I've got the time. Any helpful comments will certainly be appreciated, as this should help me in expanding other Star Wars-centric articles.

re: ED peer review
You know, I considered that; I'm so impatient to get any kind of feedback, but I wasn't sure if I could sign up for multiple peer reviews at once. From your experience (since you've done this more times than I have) do you think it would get more attention there than at the regular PR? If you think it's worth a shot, you have my full permission to put it up. Just send me the link. :) María ( habla con migo ) 15:13, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much for helping out, Moni! I really owe you one.  I'm especially glad that the Biography works for you; I was afraid that it would be thought of as too sympathetic.  I've replied to your comments at the page and made a few changes to the article.  I also added a link to the peer review on the project's banner at ED's talk page, since that was part of the instructions on the mainpage.  Hey, if I ever get around to working on Virginia Woolf, I'll have to enlist the help of the LGBT community myself. :)  María ( habla  con migo ) 19:33, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, yes, there are some folks who would love to work on that with you. Btw, if you are interested, several years ago, I painted this when I first got into art after reading some of Emily's letters to Susan Gilbert. --Moni3 (talk) 19:40, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Wow, what a beautiful homage! The texture on that painting is just wonderful.  After reading the introduction to Open Me Carefully: Emily Dickinson's Intimate Letters to Susan Huntington Dickinson, I felt guilty not having more in the article about their speculated love affair, but it's so difficult to keep neutral about such an uncertain thing.  I thought it best to just leave it alone for now until someone else had a better idea.  It's a lovely (and ultimately sad) thought, however. María ( habla  con migo ) 23:22, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Julie unavailable...
If you get the chance, would you review the Newsletter? Especially since you're mentioned. Thanks!!! -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 15:56, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Changes at TKaM
I agree with all but two of your recent changes. Scout is not quite 6 years old when the story begins (unless I'm remembering it incorrectly), and Atticus and Heck know that Boo stabbed Ewell, but they choose to let the community think that Ewell fell on his knife, to protect Boo from scrutiny. I don't know that "let it be known" is the best wording, but isn't that better than the current alternative? (Thanks for all the work you did getting this to GA, by the way!) -- Bellwether B  C  20:49, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
 * The article is at the league of copy editors right now. I'm hoping someone there will be able to go through it and give it a thorough copy edit. However, one of the issues it had when I started working on the article in earnest was a summary that had too much extraneous detail. I had to hone it down to only the very basic elements of the story, and this was before I added any other information for the rest of the article. So, I'm choosing to keep it slim right now. Some day it may go back up for featured article, but it may have to go through the peer review process over and over and over before that. I'll check the book again, but I had the book on my lap while I edited the majority of the article and I believe Scout is six years old. I'll check it again tonight. --Moni3 (talk) 21:00, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
 * As I said, I may well be mistaken about Scout's age. I'm 50/50 on that one. I'm 100% sure that Atticus and Heck didn't actually believe that Ewell fell on his knife, but chose to put that out as the "official story", you might say. That's the portion that concerned me most about removing the caveat. The caveat may not be worded in the most precise or efficient manner, but I think it needs to be noted in some way that the two men knew that Boo had stabbed Ewell, don't you? Bellwether B  C  21:19, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I clarified it. --Moni3 (talk) 21:38, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Looks fine now. Unfortunately for me, I've lent out my copy of Mockingbird, so I couldn't look up the Scout's age issue. BTW, I've set up several of my young book club members with accounts. I know you had mentioned being interested in getting involved, or helping out, in some way, so I just thought I'd let you know. I've listed the users who are my students, as well as several of the articles we are working on, at my userpage, if you're still interested. Regards, Bellwether B  C  15:48, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Any idea what you might want me to do? --Moni3 (talk) 15:59, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, my friend Risker has been reviewing some of their contribs (there's not that many, yet) and leaving some comments for them at their sandbox workpages. I interact with them in RL, so I don't leave messages at their talkpages or anything (except for the welcome note), so if you wanted to review some of their contribs outside of user workspace (actual contribs to the mainspace), and leave an encouraging comment or two at their talkpage, that might be good. They are definitely still getting their "sea legs" here at WP, and many aren't very proficient writers yet (which I'm trying to improve through this project), so any encouragement or advice from an outside source would be great. Bellwether  B  C  16:18, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Picture
David Leavitt I think. You go to the University of Florida, don't you?Zigzig20s (talk) 15:41, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Work there, not go. My education now consists of reading about stuff and writing about it on Wikipedia. I'll write to him to ask him if he's available this semester. --Moni3 (talk) 15:46, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Archive box
It was not vandalism. There are only a few pages using the  parameter for archives, which I am attempting to remove. I did not see anything that required the box be that width, so I did not see a problem in changing it. Is there a reason it has to be that size? MrKIA11 (talk) 19:44, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Giovanni Villani
Hi Moni, I have addressed your concerns; see the FAC discussion page.-- Pericles of Athens  Talk 02:29, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Userbox for noonoo
See Wikipedia talk:WikiProject LGBT studies ;] ALLSTAR  echo 03:10, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Alice B Toklas Democratic Club and David Leavitt
How are u getting along with the Alice B Toklas Democratic Club? Any response from David Leavitt?Zigzig20s (talk) 22:28, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I emailed Mr. Leavitt last week and he has not yet responded. Just for clarification, I intend to improve Phyllis Lyon and Del Martin, but I have no designs on the Alice B Toklas Democratic Club. I've never stepped foot in San Francisco, so I don't think I'm the one to work on that article. --Moni3 (talk) 18:19, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Your copyedit request
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LGBT WikiProject Newsletter
Delivered sometime in January 2008 (UTC). SatyrBot (talk) 23:45, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

A call to Gayass Wikipedians
I've started a discussion of the recent uproar here. I'm inviting all the other gayasses to join in and see if we can't work toward some unified position to present at the discussion - maybe a move to "Queer" or "LGBT"? Hope you'll look it over. Thanks! --Phyesalis (talk) 16:30, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for taking the time to respond! I've started a poll in the section - was wondering if you'd be interested in a permanent cat? (I'll respond over on my talk in the future.) -Phyesalis (talk) 18:23, 22 January 2008 (UTC)