User talk:Monster Riot Maker

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Welcome to Wikipedia. We welcome and appreciate your contributions, including your edits to Hotel California, but we cannot accept original research. Original research also encompasses combining published sources in a way to imply something that none of them explicitly say. Please be prepared to cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. We rely on third-party published sources to back up the content here, not personal anecdotes. Cheers. Doc  talk  05:25, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

Good evening Doc 9871 I understand what you replied with concerning the information i inserted pertaining to Hotel California. As an eyewitness to comparison with the Album Cover and Camarillo state Mental health being one, and the same, and the rest, it is to bad you cant take me at my word that place was not accessible by the public for a very long time actually not until they closed it down n then renovated it out as a school later on. I will provide digital images of both from reliable sources to prove that they are one n the same place. As for the real reasons why it closed i sure did not make anything up, i was there so apparently first i need to prove that i was there when i say i was by supplying some digital images of documentation or pics from the CCC base when it was located within the complex. Now proving why it shut down will be a bit more difficult, there is already a cover up in place, i revealed the reasons why that cover up is in place. I was among a group of eyewitnesses who signed statements regarding what was seen, where, when, and who the perpetrators were. I also agreed to testify in the Supreme Court should investigative proceedings take place. I was later notified by word of mouth from my superiors on base that the Hospital would be settling its case out of court, and no testimony would be required from myself or my crew mates. Getting my hands on any form of these documents or finding away to get them from the internet somehow could prove to be very difficult if not impossible. There has to be a way for the truths that i shared to be made public. When the courts themselves willingly back up a payed for lie how does one combat that except to speak out about the truth n hope someone believes you. Now the only anecdote i feel i may have added was the reference at the end where i made the comment about a tortured patient may have very well written a letter to one among the band thus producing the lyrics. Obviously there is no way to prove that unless the surviving members of the band were to actually come clean on the subject themselves. So that aside the statement from the staff that i provided about what went on there long before i got there n who did it was very real. The few who talked about it are probably all dead now, they were ancient then. I am going to go forward with trying to give you the evidence you require on this issue, i hope you did not completely erase my typed out editing work on this topic. It would be greatly appreciated if you could paste that back to my talk page so i can use it as a building block for what i am about to do. Sincerely Monster Riot Maker: you can call me RobMonster Riot Maker (talk) 06:50, 21 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Rob, I could paste it back on your talk page for you to work on; but there's really no chance of it staying in the article even if you worked on it for a month. Unpublished eyewitness observations from random editors are not allowed here. We don't include things like, "On January 6 of 1993 i was stationed at the California Conservation Corps base located in the very center of the Camarillo State Mental Hospitals gated complex. January 16 1993, 9:00 pm I stood approximately twenty feet away from the Bell Tower, and building." Things must be verified with reliable sources. And this also seems like an issue related to WP:FRINGE. I've been an eyewitness to lots of things, but I can't just edit any article to report my observations. Especially in the first person, as you did. It's not encyclopedic. I am simply the first editor to see and correct you on this issue. Doc   talk  07:11, 21 September 2013 (UTC)