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Hi, I'm having a problem with an user that you interacted with shortly ago, the user's name is User:Alon12, he requested page protection for an article (the one we are having problems with ) and you denied it. The biggest problem with that user is that he continues to remove sourced information, he removed citations to a book, claiming that it was about African Americans, despite that it isn't he then removed it saying that it wasn't a genetic study, but a book "therefore irrelevant"(a peer reviewed book for the matter, but he don't cares), seeing this, then I added a citation to a genetic study but he continues removing it ,   saying that is an study about African Americans when the study itself states that: "By comparison, 48 percent who self-reported as Caucasian had more than 95 percent European American ancestry". When I oppened a discussion in his talk page, instead of discussing he kept saying the same stuff again and insisting that the article is about African Americans when only 37% of the participants in the study were and as I wrote above already, the study clearly talks about the findings in the caucasian participants of the study, after I directly let him know this on his talk page, he moved the goalpost and recurred to the burden of proof fallacy, saying that the cited material does not give enough details, when he has presented zero proof to his own claims: he keeps pushing his edits saying that "the current sources don't say it doesn't support my claims, therefore it does and it's up to you to disprove my baseless claims with sources" when in reality, Wikipedia don't admits unsourced assumptions by policy. In the meantime this editor dared me to contact the administrators. I already opened a case in the noticeboard for edit wars, I would be thankful to have your opinion on this. Aergas (talk) 03:40, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

To provide some color, Aergas and I were having a discussion on my talk page. I eviscerated all his arguments, including his alleged comments on the extra-european admixture present in white americans, yet, I revealed to him, that spaniards, let alone diluted new world spaniards, such as latin americans, have excess extra-european ancestry vs. white americans. Furthermore, the original article on 'white mexicans' mentioned those of predominant european descent qualifying for 'white mexican', he added a link on a mestizo article, which does not mention anything about the requirement for white mexicans being full-european, rather it confirms the 1808 census definition in which Mexico was under Spanish colonial rule, and the casta system in which 7/8ths europeans were considered criollos was in effect. He has no basis for claiming 'white mexicans' being of 'full-european' descent, rather, it should be reverted to the original 'predominant' european descent. Aergas appears to have english language comprehension issues Alon12 (talk) 03:56, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Nothing that you have said is backed up by anything that you have linked, you are just assuming that samples taken from Northen and Western Europe are the same than White Americans, this with no real evidence. Aergas (talk) 04:11, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
 * The first thing both of you need to do is stop Edit Warring as your in WP:3rr territory. Second, I don't know enough about the underlying content issue to have an informed opinion, and I unfortunately don't have time to get fully involved in trying to resolve your dispute with each other right now. (Even if I did have time, at best I could try to mediate it, as admins don't decide content disputes, all we can do is enforce the conduct policy side of things) What I would suggest is following the Dispute Resolution process to get some neutral third parties to weigh in. At this point, you may want to try The Dispute Resolution Noticeboard. Monty  845  04:26, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
 * But there is a case opened in the edit warring noticeboard already, we can't open another. Aergas (talk) 04:41, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

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