User talk:MoomMoom

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Speedy deletion nomination of Suzie Dickinson
A tag has been placed on Suzie Dickinson requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for biographies. You may also wish to consider using a Wizard to help you create articles - see the Article Wizard.

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 * Hi MoomMoom -- a more fundamental problem is that the text of this article was just copied-and-pasted from the artist's MySpace page here. If you want to write about this person, please do it in your own words. Also, to avoid problems like the one above, make sure to include citations to articles in newspaper, magazine, or third-party websites that show readers that the artist is noteworthy. Cheers --Rlandmann (talk) 08:39, 11 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Hi MoomMoom -- once again, you have copied-and-pasted the bulk of the article straight from the artist's Myspace page. To contribute an article here, you must do it in your own words. Unfortunately, if you continue to violate copyrights, you might be blocked from editing here. --Rlandmann (talk) 09:02, 11 March 2010 (UTC)


 * If you need any help understanding what's required, please leave a message here or on my talk page --Rlandmann (talk) 09:03, 11 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Sorry MoomMoom -- final warning -- please do not copy-and-paste material from other websites into Wikipedia. We cannot use this material. If you need help, please ask. --Rlandmann (talk) 09:06, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

(Moved from Talk:Suzie Dickinson -- please don't leave messages on actual pages -- that's what these talk pages are for)

I am Suzie Dickinson. I wrote my Bio on MY Myspace page. I am setting up my Wiki page. I am not copying anyone's writing. It is all my words.


 * Hi -- then we have a different problem, since you normally should not be writing about yourself here -- Wikipedia has a strict Conflict of Interest policy. Furthermore, we have no way of knowing whether you really are Suzie Dickinson or not, and we have to protect Suzie Dickinson's copyrights. If you are indeed Suzie Dickinson, you will need to release the material on your website under a Creative Commons (or compatible) license, or into the public domain before Wikipedia can republish it. I can help you with this, if that's what you want to do. Cheers --Rlandmann (talk) 09:18, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

(moved from Suzie Dickinson): If you read the article you will see I am a singer/songwriter. I am real and not insignificant. I have just released an album and am trying to set up my page. WHY do you keep deleting it. Are you actually reading it first?


 * Yes, I am reading it, which is how I know it's been copied from a Myspace page... --Rlandmann (talk) 09:19, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

I'm more than happy to help you create a page within Wikipedia's requirements -- we were all new here once! :) --Rlandmann (talk) 09:23, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

I have everything I want all ready to go for the site. But it is everything I wrote last time. How do I put this information up and keep it there?


 * While I personally have no doubt that you are who you say you are, Wikipedia needs better proof than that so show that you are in fact the copyright owner. If you really have to use the same text as on your MySpace page, then please include a note on the Myspace page indicating that either the whole page (or just that section) is published under a Creative Commons license. You can find instructions at the Creative Commons website here. Note that you will need to answer "Yes" to "Allow commercial uses of your work?" and to "Allow modifications of your work?". Note that this means that anyone in the world will be able to reuse and alter your text for any purpose they like, including commercial purposes.
 * That's step one -- seriously, it might be easier to re-write the text... but if you prefer this particular wording, please release the copyrights from it. --Rlandmann (talk) 09:33, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Ok I have logged in to my myspace and added the copyright logo to the bottom of the bio. So now can I set up the Wiki page using the same Bio?


 * Awesome -- many thanks. Please go right ahead and re-add the content. However please note that even so, the article probably won't survive long unless you can provide some citations to newspapers, magazines, or third-party websites that demonstrate that you're notable enough to figure in an encyclopedia :) Once again, I can help you with that if you like --Rlandmann (talk) 09:55, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Because there's a potential conflict of interest here, you should also leave a message on the article's talk page to say up front that you're the person described in the article and that you're writing about yourself. --Rlandmann (talk) 09:56, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Looking again at your MySpace page, the reviews on 3CR, Beat and Nu Country TV will certainly establish notability -- as will details of your awards, if we can cite them properly. Unfortunately, this will be a bit tedious, like writing a bibliography for an essay. I hope you can bear with me :) --Rlandmann (talk) 10:01, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Also, if you'd like to upload a picture, you can do so at Wikipedia's sister site, the Wikimedia Commons here. Again, for copyright reasons we can normally only accept photos that you took yourself; but since that's harder in this case, maybe there's a photo that you commissioned (and therefore own the copyrights to)? --Rlandmann (talk) 10:05, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Ok yes how do I put these references from magazines in?

Yes I have photos I have permission to use, as I paid for them for promo work. I was wondering how to upload them. I will go where you said thanks.


 * Like I said, it's unfortunately a bit like a school essay ;) In the edit view of the page, it might look something like this:

Beat Magazine described Dickinson's performance as "great, catchy songs that lingered long after the performance had ended"&lt;ref&gt;Details of article here&lt;/ref&gt;


 * The Details of the article would include normal bibliographic details -- author, title of article, title of magazine, date of magazine, page number. Don't worry too much about formatting yet -- we can polish that later.


 * Then, at the end of the page, include the code:


 * The more third-party references you can find, the better. --Rlandmann (talk) 10:26, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks heaps for your help. I put the quotes in. I don't know if that's right, but it's done for now. I will add more later, look for references etc. Thanks! : )


 * No problem -- two last things -- the declaration of a conflict of interest should go on the talk page, not the article itself -- you can see a good model here. Secondly, since you didn't take your publicity shot yourself, you should also send an email to the Wikimedia Foundation explaining that you did indeed pay for the photo and own it -- a sample is here.
 * I'm sorry for all the hoops -- as an artist, I hope you realise that we do what we do to protect the copyrights of everyone involved. I'll also keep an eye on things if you don't get to take care of the above two items today --Rlandmann (talk) 10:35, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

I have done the license for the photo permitting use of it. I can't seem to find the address of the Wikimedia Foundation anywhere. Do you know this?


 * Sure -- just send an email to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org -- tell them the name of the file ("Suzie_dickinson.jpg") and explain that you commissioned the photo, own the copyright, and are happy to release it into the public domain. --Rlandmann (talk) 12:10, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Wow...if that's you that edited all the info (referencing) on the page thank you so much. I could have never done that! I will send the email tomorrow. Thanks again for all your help, much appreciated!! : )


 * Glad to help. However, note that the referencing is still weak (I just used what I could immediately grab on the net) and people could still challenge the validity of the article on those grounds, There's no immediate danger, though. Take a look at the discussion on the article's talk page to see some of the issues. I'm sure you have a folder or scrapbook of press cuttings somewhere -- that's the stuff the article really needs. Maybe one quiet evening when you've got time... :) Cheers --Rlandmann (talk) 20:16, 11 March 2010 (UTC)