User talk:Moondyne/Archive 1

Greetings
Welcome Ian,

You have done a good job so far in Wikipedia (WP). I can see that you're a serious Wikipedian interested in improving our project. If you stay for a while, you'll discovered that collectively, we're a cooperative and friendly community. We are all here to learn, and hopefully can give something back. If you have questions or doubts of any sort, do not hesitate to post them on the Village Pump, somebody will respond ASAP. Other helpful pages include:
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Redirects
Hi Ian, Nice to meet you. I noticed that you've been creating some links that should be redirects. Please, rather than fill an article with See: YaddaYadda, type #REDIRECT: YaddaYadda. Then the user will go directly to the second page. thanks! Kingturtle 05:48, 17 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Mars
Please disambiguate "Mars" on your user page to Mars (planet). Thanks. RedWolf 23:15, Feb 28, 2004 (UTC)

Welcome
G'day Ian, and good to have you on board.

Do you have permission to use the material from the Celebrate W.A. site in the James Stirling (Australian governor) article? If so we should say. If not, I fear there may be a copyright violation problem here. Andrewa 11:37, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)


 * Andrew, point taken. I've rewritten it as a stub. Ianbrown 12:08, 18 Jul 2004 (UTC)

On a related topic, you may also be the one to help me with the Governors of Western Australia article. A recent edit removed the word Crown from the heading Governors of Western Australia as a self-governing Crown Colony. I'm curious as to why it was there in the first place. Is this edit correct? What was the status of WA from 1890? Andrewa 11:48, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)


 * I have no idea - way beyond my knowledge base :) Ianbrown 12:08, 18 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Shane Gould
Hey Ian, there's a question at Talk:Shane Gould which you probably know the answer to. Moriori 03:10, Aug 14, 2004 (UTC)

Image:Triumph.stag.jpg
Thanks for uploading Image:Triumph.stag.jpg. I notice it currently doesn't have an image copyright tag. Could you add one to let us know its copyright status? (You can use if you release it under the GFDL, or  if you claim fair use, etc.) If you don't know what any of this means, just let me know where you got the images and I'll tag them for you. Thanks so much,   – Quadell (talk) (help)   21:25, Nov 15, 2004 (UTC)


 * New image uploaded (taken by me)Ianbrown 14:27, 21 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Article Licensing
Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 2000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:
 * Multi-Licensing FAQ - Lots of questions answered
 * Multi-Licensing Guide
 * Free the Rambot Articles Project

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the " " template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:


 * Option 1
 * I agree to multi-license all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:

OR
 * Option 2
 * I agree to multi-license all my contributions to any U.S. state, county, or city article as described below:

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace " " with "  ". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- Ram-Man (comment| talk)

WikiProject Cricket
Hi Ian

I see your a fellow cricket fan, and also your project to write articles on all the Aussie captains (at least it's easier for you than my long-term idea of articles on all the English captains - we seem to get through them quicker than you).

I thought I'd invite you along to WikiProject Cricket, a forum for cricket-loving Wikipedians, and also a good place to advertise what cricket articles you are working on.

Hope to see you over there,

Kind regards

jguk 19:15, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Cricket
It'd be great if you could help bring the other two articles, Test matches in the 19th century (1884 to 1889) and Test matches in the 19th century (1890 to 1900) to featured status, like Test matches in the 19th century (to 1883) is. I've gotten a bit side-tracked onto Brian Close, but would like to work these articles, and Sydney Riot of 1879 to featured status.

You might be interested in the succession boxes that we have on the English and Bangladeshi cricket captains. They would be a good addition to the Aussie captains too. An example is on Len Hutton. I may add some myself. All the best, jguk 20:39, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * I hope you don't mind, but I suggested a fact from your new Tied Test article to the team at Did You Know. Have a look at what I wrote. Thanks. Harro5 03:18, July 24, 2005 (UTC)

australian cricket captains
are you sure you have your captains correct?

shane warne, ian heally and adam gilchrist have only ever been vice-captain and in that position may have been acting captain. Xtra 14:29, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)

John Forrest
I noticed you just added John Forrest to Category:History of Western Australia. Are you aware that the article is already in the category via Category:Members of the Western Australian Legislative Assembly, Category:Members of the Western Australian Legislative Council and Category:Premiers of Western Australia, which are all subcategories of Category:History of Western Australia?

Okay if you think he should be in the category directly too. I just wanted to make sure you were aware. Hesperian 02:02, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Cricket wikireader
As you are a member of WikiProject Cricket, I thought you might be interested in this. I have made a proposal to create a WikiReader for cricket. Perhaps you could comment at User:Smoddy/WikiReader Cricket on my suggested content. Cheers, Smoddy (Rabbit and pork) 16:23, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

Ashes image
Do you still have a vector image of the Ashes obituary? If you do, it would be preferable that you save the image as a png-8 type file. Not only does it compress better, the text is a lot clearer as compared to the .jpeg format. Another thing, since you do upload GFDL licenced files, would you consider uploading images in the future to wikimedia ? That way, all language wikis can link to the file instead of only the English wikipedia. Regards, = Nichalp  ( Talk )= 17:53, May 31, 2005 (UTC)


 * I'll explain all file types in detail, as the format conversion isn't the right way to go.

I've categorised your image on commons, and if you want me to delete the two images here on en:, please let me know. For now, the image is fine and I don't think a replacement is absolutely necessary. Regards, = Nichalp  ( Talk )= 07:54, Jun 2, 2005 (UTC)
 * 1) .gif should be used solely for animations. (there are licensing issues with this format which makes is non-free). So avoid this unless it is an animation.
 * 2) .jpg should be used for photographs only. This compresses well if there are many colours in an image. Should not be used for diagrams, line art and other non-photographic content.
 * 3) .png is the best filetype for line art, text and non-photographic and non-animation content. Use this for maps, text etc. It compresses better than the .gif for artwork, though .jpg is better than .png for photos. The .png format is of two subtypes:
 * 4) png-8 of whose palatte consists of 256 colours &
 * 5) png-24, with a much higher colour resolution
 * 6) * Depending on how much colour your picture has, you can select either the 8 or 24. However, the 24 has a larger file size so use it sparingly; ie only if the 8 gives a poor quality.
 * A drawback of the .jpeg format is that if you open the file and save after that, it gets compressed once again. So opening and saving it repeateadly will lead to the image degrading in quality.
 * Another point, the original raster/vector image should be saved into the desired file format. Converting from one format to another is practically useless, as it has already been compressed and will be unnecessarily compressed further.
 * If you would like a program to upload files to the commons then here's a free program to do so. Please do categorise the image else they would remain orphans and hard to locate.
 * Also, there is no need to upload to both, the [en:] wikipedia and . The commons, as its name suggests, is the central depositary of images and your pic will also appear in [en:].

categorisation
Categories are done in the same way as we have here:. If the category does not exist, the link will appear in red, click the link and add some text. = Nichalp ( Talk )= 08:58, Jun 2, 2005 (UTC)

Invicibles
Ian,

The Invincibles start with the line - "It is noteable as it was the first Test playing team to pay an entire tour without losing a match and for the English team, captained by Norman Yardley, it was the first time they had endured a series without a win"

Didn't get what you meant by the second half of the line. England had gone through a home series without winning atleast once before - they lost 0-3 to Warwick Armstrong's Aussies in 1921. Tintin 08:00, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

>> I recall now that the source was talking about all first class matches in a tour - not necessarily tests only

Okay. I am still confused because isn't it the same thing then to say that Aus did not lose a single tour match, and that it was the first time that England hosted a team without winning any fc match ? Anyway, I think you are the better judge. PS : I just took a wikiholic test and scored only 85 :( Tintin 09:02, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Looks fine. Thanks Tintin 09:46, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

You may find some useful pics for the Invincibles here. The copyright looks as if it is alright to use the photos. Tintin 16:58, 24 July 2005 (UTC)

Featured article candidates/Sydney Riot of 1879
Ian

I don't know whether you've spotted it, but I nominated Sydney Riot of 1879 a week ago on WP:FAC to try to get it recognised as a featured article. I know it's a page you've made some significant contributions to, and am wondering whether you'd be willing to support. The vote is on a knife-edge at the moment, with the one sticking point being whether the letters should stay or go. Personally, I like them there and think they are important to the story. You comments would be welcome. Kind regards, jguk 15:09, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

The Ashes
Ian

Thanks for your support and help with the Sydney Riot page. Personally I'd list the Ashes on FAC now - but Nichalp has already listed it on Peer Review. Out of def erence to him, I don't intend to nominate it just yet - but will do towards the end of the month. Ideally it'd get on the front page on 21 July - I'd like to leave enough time for it to have two stints on FAC, if necessary, before then.

On whether the trophy section should be re-ordered, I'm not sure. Please be bold and edit the page as you see fit - if it works, it'll stay like that, if not, it'll soon get reverted. Kind regards, jguk 20:41, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Land grants in the Swan River Colony
I'd appreciate it if you'd cast a critical eye over Land grants in the Swan River Colony. It's not my best work I'm sorry to say. I'm unhappy with the title, the section headings, my failure to acknowledge the previous owners of the land.... But I had to hatch it now or never.

Hesperian 11:22, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * Thanks Ian. I agree that it is an interesting subject and should be more widely linked.  I am satisfied with the article's completeness, but I still think it lacks polish.  Perhaps linking it more prominently will cause it to be edited to a higher standard.  I'll try to link it into History of Western Australia.
 * I don't know if I can do anything about Bussell family though; I think it is destined to be "a bit lost" until I get around to writing John Bussell, Arthur Bussell, Grace Bussell, John Molloy, Warrior...
 * There most definitely should be an article on Mitchell's group settlements. But my to-do list is already indulgently long, so I won't be taking the subject on in the near future.

Hesperian 23:08, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Featured list candidates/Australian national cricket captains
Ian

I wonder whether you've seen that I nominated Australian national cricket captains for featured list status. I know you have put in a substantial amount of work on this article (and on the individual captain's pages as well). Indeed, were it not for your edits I'd have tarted up the English cricket captains to nominate that first:) If you'd like to vote on it, see Featured list candidates/Australian national cricket captains. Kind regards, jguk 13:24, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

prisons etc
Hello Ian. I've never been 100% comfortable with categorising penal colonies with prisons. Whilst they both serve somewhat the same purpose, I agree the two aren't directly related. Both deserve mention in a definite list of detention centres, but for very different reasons and during very different times. Do you have any suggestions on how to the two can be related in a better way? I'm open to change. -- Longhair | Talk 22:38, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Ian Brown
You know this person: User:Ian Brown? =Nichalp  «Talk»=  July 7, 2005 18:37 (UTC)

RE: Message on catagories in page preview
Thanks for that Ian. I don't think I'd ever have found them if you haven't pointed them out. Raven4x4x 03:04, July 19, 2005 (UTC)

Tied Test
Ian, do you plan to expand tied test further - into a match report sort of thing ? Tintin 14:06, 24 July 2005 (UTC)

Thanks. I would like to expand it, but not in the very near future. Too much pending stuff already. Tintin 14:16, 24 July 2005 (UTC)

Category:Sportspeople of Western Australia
I always put articles in their most specific category, and I only put them also into more general categories if there is a compelling reason to do so. e.g. I put Walter Lindrum in both Category:Sportspeople of Western Australia and Category:Australian sportspeople because of his national significance. In the case of WA cricketers, my personal preference is to put cricketers into Category:Western Australia cricketers, and to leave them out of the Sportpeople of WA unless they were/are known as sportspeople other than cricketers e.g. There is a sportsperson named Michael Clark in the Western Warriors squad who was previously a Freo Docker.

I am aware that some people think articles on really famous people should be made easy to find by including them in more general categories, and I see you have followed that philosophy by putting Dennis Lillee and a few other big names into Category:Sportspeople of Western Australia. It's not the way I'd do it, but I certainly don't object. Hesperian 04:13, 26 July 2005 (UTC)


 * I saw your discussion at User_talk:Sam_Vimes regarding categorisation of articles. Sam and jguk have obviously taken the opposite approach to me.  I had a look around for any policy or guidelines on the subject, and I found this on Categorization: "An article should not be in both a category and its subcategory, for example Microsoft Office is in Category:Microsoft software, so should not also be in Category:Software." This is only a guideline, generally accepted by consensus to apply in many cases, but it is enough to convince me to keep doing as I'm doing.  Hesperian 23:52, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

One reason why that is only a guideline rather than a rule is that whilst it may be appropriate in most cases, it is not necessarily best to enforce that in all cases. Drew himself gives what he considers suitable counter-examples. With the Australian cricketers category, we effectively have a full index - the other categories are browsing categories. The same happens later down the line - and let's take New Zealand as an example here. Everyone in Category:New Zealand Test captains is also within Category:New Zealand test cricketers and Category:New Zealand cricketers. However, each is useful in its own right. For example, suppose you were searching for Bevan Congdon. In Category:New Zealand cricketers, you could find him straight away. Alternatively, you may be interested in browsing New Zealand test cricketers, and happen upon him. Or, you may be interested in their captains, and happen upon him there, jguk 06:34, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

Australian cricketers
I've replied on Sam's talk page, jguk 06:51, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

Mumbai image
Hi, 2005 Mumbai floods is now in the main page news section. If you can license the Image:Mumbai.gif with GFDL or PD, it can be featured on the main page. Thanks. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 06:19, July 28, 2005 (UTC)

List of Australian Test cricketers
Hey there, great work with that list! However, there's one problem with it. The over measure has been so inconsistently used throughout time that it's not very useful (someone bowling 677 overs in the 20s bowled more than someone bowling 730 in the 90s, for example), so do you have any reasonably easily accessible source on the number of balls bowled? Also, see the comment on Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Cricket, so we can hack out some kind of common standard. Thanks! Sam Vimes 20:39, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for starting to tidy up the names. However, wouldn't it be better to link to their full names, and distinguish them by occupation from anyone else with an identical name, eg, [ [Thomas Garrett (cricketer)|Tom Garrett] ]? What do you think? MulgaBill 08:01, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Yes, you're probably right - I'll fit in with your system. MulgaBill 01:50, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

User:Ngb/List of cricket commentators
Not at all! I was relying on people filling in details of the people I didn't know about, and adding any other commentators I'd never heard of or forgotten. The column titling is better in your version. --Ngb 08:27, 5 August 2005 (UTC)

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Ian

Now I've gotten the gloating over, can I ask whether you're going to submit List of Test cricket records as a featured list candidate? It looks to me that it's ready, jguk 13:53, 7 August 2005 (UTC)


 * Four-one, even though that will mean I watch a game in a dead rubber. Mind you, it'll still be great to see Michael Vaughan lift up that trophy in front of a full capacity crowd at the Oval before we wish the Aussies a fond farewell. Just wondering if you guys will have time enough to regroup before taking on the World, jguk 14:11, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

Regrettably I think all the pictures may have to go. There should be some somewhere that can be put on to ease its passage through WP:FLC though, jguk 15:18, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

WP:FLC
Hi there -

I saw you struggling with the format on WP:FLC - I hope you didn't mind me butting in. HTH. -- ALoan (Talk) 14:06, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Create a redlink to the new sub-page by adding FLC to the top of the candidate article's talk page (or by adding to WP:FLC)
 * The header "=== List of Test cricket records ===" goes at the top of the nomination subpage, above the blurb for the nomination.
 * The sub-page is transcluded into Featured list candidates by adding.


 * I have modified the above. Seriously, if the explanation on WP:FLC is not good enough for you to work out what needs to be done, please would you think about amending it (assuming that you can follow the explanation above - if not, let me know!) -- ALoan (Talk) 14:36, 9 August 2005 (UTC)


 * Ok - sense of humour failure :( But you did have problems, which indicates to me that the instructions could have been clearer. I'd be grateful if you would think about what if anything could be done to make the explanation easier to follow.  Thanks. -- ALoan (Talk) 14:44, 9 August 2005 (UTC)


 * Thanks for that feedback. I have tweaked the instructions.  Is that better? It really is easier the second (third, etc) time you do it.  The same procedure is used on WP:FAC, WP:FARC, etc. -- ALoan (Talk) 15:48, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

List of cricket records
No probs. When we add so much data, it is inevitable that we all make errors. Tintin 15:22, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

Who reprimanded Peate?
I see you've reverted the article back to refer to "the captain WG Grace". Note my comment on the Ashes discussion page: 'In the report of the original "Ashes" match it is stated: "When Peate returned to the Pavilion he was reprimanded by the captain WG Grace for not allowing his partner at the wicket Charles Studd to get the runs." But Hornby, not Grace, was captain. So, who reprimanded Peate?' It was either the captain, Hornby, or it was Grace, but not "the captain WG Grace". MulgaBill 21:13, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

DYK
Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk 00:30, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

List of Australian Test cricketers
Actually, I just devised a method to do it by spreadsheet after pasting data from cricinfo, so it took about two hours. :) Sam Vimes 06:25, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

Swan Bells
That was a fantastic article you wrote there about the Swan Bells. Well done. You get a cookie. :) - Mark 09:20, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

Thanks!
Hiya. Just wanted to thank you for supporting my recent RfA. Cheers! --Ngb 19:18, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

Oz
Thanks for the fixing of the template, and also thanks for the comments about the list. I understand your objection, and am working to resolve them. I really find it difficult to get good criticism on Peer review, so sometimes a first time through a FAC (or FLC in this case) is the only way to get some good perspective, so I can come back later with a better list. As I said before, I find it hard to find the actual books, so I can read them and write about them, but I am trying to fill them up as stubs based on some online reviews of the books I've found. Again, thanks. &mdash; [[User:JonMoore|&mdash;Jo nMo ore  20:24, 29 May 2006 (UTC)]] 03:54, 18 August 2005 (UTC)


 * Could you please tale another look at The Oz books. I have expanded te list greatly, and although there are alot of red links still, I think the list itself is greatly improved. Let me know what you think. &mdash; [[User:JonMoore|&mdash;Jo nMo ore  20:24, 29 May 2006 (UTC)]] 00:25, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

Ok, done. My brain is officially Munchkin porridge. Thanks for the help, though. LOL. Oppose if you dare ;-) &mdash; [[User:JonMoore|&mdash;Jo nMo ore  20:24, 29 May 2006 (UTC)]] 04:53, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

Re: Stephen Turner
I admit it. It was me. Stephen Turner 12:56, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

Jack Worrall
Yes, I believe they are the same person. He was a very influential person in Australian rules football history, not only was he a star player at the turn of the century but he is also believed to be the first "coach" of a V/AFL side, using the latest training methods of the time. --The Brain of Morbius 11:54, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Further reference checking confirms that Worrall the test cricketer and Worrall the footballer and coach are one and the same.--The Brain of Morbius 23:49, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the image, and for dressing up the AFL stub template with it - I've been looking for a clean sherrin image for some time!--The Brain of Morbius 05:09, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

Voting
Yeah, I've fixed it. =Nichalp  «Talk»=  07:04, August 26, 2005 (UTC)

Trent Bridge
No, I'm watching at home today. I'm a Surrey supporter, so I'll be going to all of the Oval Test, hoping to see Michael Vaughan's team lift the Ashes, jguk 11:56, 27 August 2005 (UTC)


 * Hardly fair on the Kiwis. Your lot could do with a Shane Bond in the side:) jguk 12:17, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

Registering the PD-Australia
You'd need to register the PD-Aus tag here: Image copyright tags, and make an identical tag in (register that too there). =Nichalp  «Talk»=  06:41, August 28, 2005 (UTC)

That PD template...
...great idea! Well done. - Ta bu shi da yu 09:53, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

List of sporting comebacks
Hehe. Sorry. :) --Ngb?!? 08:02, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

FYI
After a recent attack by a troll who used my personal information against me, I have decided to hide my identify behind a more anonymous user name. Snottygobble | Talk 23:58, 1 September 2005 (UTC).
 * I should clarify; if you were watching my recent silly argument with vcxlor at Talk:Swan River Colony, you might suspect that I'm reacting to that. That's not the case. Snottygobble | Talk 00:07, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

The Wizard of Oz Part 2:Oz Harder
Hey, just thought you would like to see my latest crazy scheme: WikiPortal Oz. Cheers! --&mdash; [[User:JonMoore|&mdash;Jo nMo ore  20:24, 29 May 2006 (UTC)]] 00:38, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

Six hungry families
Thanks for the link. There is just about enough information there for a good stub. Throw in some information from John Horgan and you've got a pretty good article. Snottygobble | Talk 08:03, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

Darryl White
Thanks very much for the cupcake!--The Brain of Morbius 11:09, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

Governors

 * Yes, I've come across it. A big effort.  It almost seems a shame that resources like www.rulers.org will gradually be swallowed up or overshadowed by wikipedia.  It's already happened to www.victoriacross.net. Snottygobble | Talk 11:12, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

Donald Bradman
Donald Bradman's is this fortnight's cricket collaboration. Thank you for voting for it. =Nichalp  «Talk»=  14:29, September 4, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks
Hi Ian:

Thanks for support in my recent RFB nomination. I'm now WP's newest bureaucrat. :)

Perth Mint Swindle
Nice work. A trailblazing article - now we need articles on Lewandowski, Hancock, the Mickelbergs and the Perth Mint. User:Hesperian 00:08, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

Roll Back
Hi Ian - thanks for the vote of confidence - I was big, brave and bold and did what you said - no doubt I will get one of our countrymen's backs up over this! I am used to doing roll backs, usually to deal with vandalism on scn.wiki where I am the founder and bureaucrat - but I never knew you could do what you said. All the best and I hope to run into you a bit more (obviously in en.wiki - but please visit us in scn.wiki any time you want - we've just ticked over 2,200 articles and we're probably the only wiki to give front page space to the recent Ashes win by England!). --pippudoz - (waarom? jus'coz!)  04:28, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

Battle of Pinjarra
I've been gathering information on this for quite a while now. I have enough information to write a pretty good article about the event itself, but still need to get a handle on subsequent historiography. e.g. the Windshuttle-Reynolds "massacre or myth" debate. Snottygobble | Talk 03:05, 20 September 2005 (UTC)

Australian cricket
When you are back, please see if Link1 and Link2 would be useful. Tintin 12:22, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

Last over of the Tied Test
The seqeunce was either. 2 1 . W or 2. 1 . W I seem to remember it as the former but not sure Tintin 16:18, 28 September 2005 (UTC)


 * The last over of the first Tied Test (Aus v WI) went 1lb W(Benaud) . 1b 1 2(Grout run out) .(Meckiff run out). This according to Cricket's Strangest Matches by Andrew Ward ISBN 1861052936 published in 2002, if you need a reference.   [[Sam Korn ]] 16:27, 28 September 2005 (UTC)


 * Smoddy, my comment was about the second Tied Test. Btw, I hadn't noticed that you changed your nick :-) Tintin 16:32, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

Do you want to move your new page?
Hey Ian the new page you created User:Ianbrown/List of cricketers' nicknames should really have a proper title, or better still, the info should be moved. Could I suggest you create your list under "See also" at List of cricketers and have your page deleted. Cheers (from a Paddles fan), Moriori 03:34, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Sorry, forgot to mention that while a List of cricketers nicknames might be a good idea it should reside at List of cricketers nicknames. Obviously it doesn't. Cheers Moriori 03:41, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Actually it does - you just forgot the apostrophe. Grutness...  wha?  00:31, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Actually it didn't. Check the time of my post, and the time the article was created. Moriori 03:01, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

Zin Harris
My fault - no idea why I remembered his name as Peter - Zin was Parke Harris. Grutness...  wha?  00:31, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

Chucking
Is it alright to comment on your new page, or should I wait till it makes to the main namespace ? Tintin 13:50, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks very much. It is really good now.

--Dore chakravarty 07:28, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the Tidy!
You deserve a medal for the tidy of the WAGR art. Thanks!!!vcxlor 09:53, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

Account box
Thanks Ian,

I just ripped off your account box format, since mine looked disgusting.

Talk 03:10, 4 October 2005 (UTC)


 * What fine collaboration! Snottygobble | Talk 03:24, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Native Species
Running out of time, probably cause you headaches next time around - will try to add Fauna for the cuddly marsupials and so on - anyway good onya for adjusting the pics, glad its you not me!!User:SatuSuro 07:13, 5 October 2005 (UTC)08:23, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Bridges, Swan River
At what point is it worth making a sep art? I am thinking about the numerous(?) Freo and E Perth bridges and their history, not that I will put it all up tommorrow - but there's some good stuff and I'm wondering whether it deserves a separate art or not. Also, there is heaps of stuff on the ferries/ships of the swan somewhere... User:SatuSuro 07:13, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

Like our mate Snotty/Drew I was trying to rip off your nice format at top when you sent your reply. I can't make it work! oh well. I understand your not wanting to split the art until it's v big. I am supriseed we havent put that book the FACP put out last year or the year before about wandering round the river by brimingham - do you know it?User:SatuSuro 07:38, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

Barnstar
I hereby award you the Tireless Contributor barnstar. I cannot believe that you still haven't got one. Tintin 03:02, 14 October 2005 (UTC)



list of lists of mathematical topics

 * It's nothing more than a navigational tool for use inside Wikipedia. It's not information that could be of any use to anyone outside this system and therefore hardly worthy of being called Wikipedia's very best work, or representing something that is unique on the Internet.

To say that it's not unique on the internet is to say that there's something else like it somewhere on the internet. As a mathematician who has frequently looked for things on mathematics via the internet for years, I have not found that. Could you please tell me the URL?

(I do think this list is an example of Wikipedia's very best work, and that it's pretty obvious how it could be of use for purposes other than navigating within Wikipedia; I'm surprised that anyone would question the latter.) Michael Hardy 17:55, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

You wrote:


 * To expand: It's a list of lists inside Wikipedia. I feel it doesn't meet the spirit of the criteria in that it's not information as such, it's just an index.  If each list item was expanded with a short description, I'd view differently. Sorry. -- Ian &equiv; talk 01:15, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

That's absurd. It is NOT primarily a list of things INSIDE Wikipedia. If it were, it would bore me to death! How can you think such a thing? I think you haven't looked at the list and thought about what it says! See my response to Dmharvey in the comments section at the bottom of the voting page. It's obviously about things existing outside Wikipedia, and if you think otherwise you're not paying any attention. Michael Hardy 01:25, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

Have responded at Featured list candidates/List of lists of mathematical topics. Michael please keep the discussion there -- Ian &equiv; talk 02:17, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

My RfA
Hi Ian! Just wanted to thank you for supporting my RfA. I hope I will be able to live up to the confidence placed in me. --Cyberjunkie | Talk 05:26, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

Mankading
Feel free to change it. I didn't know what tag to add and just copied what someone else had done. Tintin 12:13, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

ING Cup
Hi Ian

It's smickel here

The stats included in the table on the ING Cup are from the October 2005 edition of Inside Cricket. What is mean't by the stats is that Justin Langer has scored 2828 runs at 40.40 for Western Australia in the ING cup but it is still true that he has scored 7,023 test runs. (preceding unsigned comment by  09:00, 20 October 2005)

Australian images and the public domain
Hi - because you placed created the Template:PD-Australia, you may be interested in the discussion at WP:AWNB. Regards--User:AYArktos | Talk 19:56, 21 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Is this Bodyline news clipping in the public domain ? Tintin 13:15, 22 October 2005 (UTC)


 * I uploaded it as soon as I saw your first reply :-) I'll wait for your reply and change the status accordingly. Tintin 13:30, 22 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Thanks Tintin 12:31, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

Cricket Quiz
Congratulations Ian, you answered question 4 correctly. Now you can set question five. Raven4x4x 13:01, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

re sheep breeds
It is a good question and I'd love to see the answer in a style guide. I grew up living on a farm which had white suffolk rams and we never capitalised is as a breed name, just calling them the "suffolks", even though Suffolk in the UK was where they presumably originally came from. Having been through that entire list of sheep breeds I think 70-75% of them derive from place names, some more obscure than others, so if we want title case for breeds deriving from place names I guess we can do it for all of them. I notice that some of the articles about breeds which have already been created use title case. What do we do for dogs like German Shepherd? St Bernard? etc -- I guess that is the answer. Donama 22:52, 26 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Okay that's settled then. I've changed them to title case. Donama 02:01, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

Re: Where is wikipedia going?
Me too. I was happy with things when I was personally inspecting every edit to every article in my watchlist, because I assumed that everyone was doing the same. Now my watchlist is so big that I only check suspicious-looking edits, and there have been cases where vandalism of an article dear to me has been overlooked for weeks.

It seems to me beyond question that account-less users do far more damage than good. I whole-heartedly endorse point 1. Points 2 and 3 I'm not so sure about. Talk 03:13, 28 October 2005 (UTC)


 * I think we have all that stuff already enforced indirectly in WP:Cricket. Tintin 12:41, 1 November 2005 (UTC)


 * Yes. It is not just about the trusted editors but stable articles like Cricket are protected against arbitrary edits by newbies unless they have a significant contribution to make. I agree that it should be the same for stable articles across wikipedia. Tintin 13:50, 1 November 2005 (UTC)


 * It's a start:
 * Wales said new software would be deployed from the end of the year that would allow changes to very active pages which might be prone to vandalism to appear on the site with a time delay, so members of the community could review them. link.

Talk 22:45, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

Pictures
sure thing. last thing we want is lawsuits! thx for the tips :) Leslie 07:56, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for cookie
Thank you for giving me a cookie, it was my first ever Wiki-reward of any sort.  Da Gizza  Chat (c) 05:15, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

Qz
Your turn. Tintin 13:12, 8 November 2005 (UTC)


 * Shane Warne was the correct answer for number 26, so number 27 is yours. Stephen Turner 14:39, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

ACOTF: Rabbit-proof fence
Hi, I noticed that you've listed yourself as a participant at WikiProject Perth. As you may or may not know, the current Australian Collaboration of the Fortnight is rabbit-proof fence. It would be great if we could put a picture of the actual fence up. Just wondering if you are in a position to take such a picture at all?

(Don't feel obliged to reply to this, but if you like you can leave me a note on my Talk page.) cheers -- pfctdayelise 13:47, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

Intercolonial cricket in Australia
Hi Ian,

Nice article.

My article on Robert Bush includes the following: "In April of that year [1893], he played in the first ever inter-colonial cricket match, between Western Australia and Victoria". This is contradicted by Intercolonial cricket in Australia, and so is presumably wrong. Any chance you might have some insight into how to correct it?

Talk 02:26, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

Ianblair23's RfA
G'day Ian, I would like to thank you for supporting me on my RfA. It closed with the final tally of 57/0/0. I can only hope I can live up to the expectations that this wonderful community of ours demands from each of its administrators. If you ever need anything, please just let me know. Cheers! -- Ianblair23 (talk) 02:40, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

Hesperian's RfA
Thanks for the support, Ian. Hey, it looks like we could be in for an exciting Test match for a change! Talk 13:40, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

Quiz
Sorry, have done so now ! Tintin 18:19, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

Re: linking years
No worries, Ian, I know it's pretty much universal! Stephen Turner 20:01, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

Re: List of cricket topics

 * You wrote: Would cricketbot be able to generate a list of cricket related articles which aren't recorded in List of cricket topics? I suppose the hard bit is defining what is a "cricket article".  It would exclude cricket bio's, but (could) include anything else with a category with the word "cricket" in it.  I'm open to other suggestions though. -- Ian 12:24, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your suggestion, Ian. The problem, as you imply, is how to define what is included. Going through the cricket categories might be a good start though. That would be very easy, and I'd be happy to do it, if we have a list of those categories somewhere. But I don't know how to generate the list of categories automatically. Stephen Turner 13:56, 28 November 2005 (UTC)


 * Yes, you're right, I can probably work down from Category:Cricket and catch all the subcategories. I'll need to think about this a bit more though when I'm a bit less busy. Stephen Turner 09:50, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

Pettigrew
It never ceases to amaze me how often apparently unremarkable people are in fact remarkable. I unlinked "T. J. Pettigrew" from Yagan on the assumption that he was just another unremarkable English surgeon. See Thomas Pettigrew to see how wrong I was! Talk 02:11, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

Re: Connell
He served one year of his five year term for the Danny Hobby / Strike Softly affair. By the way, you should be careful how you phrase that issue: Connell was found not guilty of fixing the race, but guilty of obstruction of justice during the investigation. I don't think he went to jail over Rothwells. Talk 04:22, 2 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Thanks for that info. Published now as Laurie Connell. -- Ian &equiv; talk 08:33, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

Re: Adminship
Thanks, you support was appreciated. Feel free to bug me first if you want any articles moved, deleted, etc. Talk 12:03, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

Cnwb's RfA
Ian, Thanks so very much for supporting my Request for Admin. The final result was 38/0/0. I'm looking forward to spending my summer holidays shut away in a darkened room, drinking G&Ts and playing with my new tools ;-) Please accept this Tim Tam as a token of my gratitude. Cnwb 22:36, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

Sir G Boycott
Ian,

It would be incorrect to call it Boycott's team when he was only a player. It is ordinarily used only if he was the captain of the team (or maybe if he did extraordinarily well, but I can't think of a good example for any team being called after a player). For example, when you say 'Mark Taylor's team', you refer to the Australian team between 1993 and 1999, and not anytime between 1989 and 1993. Boycott did lead the English team to NZ later in 1977/78. Tintin 07:10, 6 December 2005 (UTC)