User talk:Moondyne/Archive 18

Ponting
mmm... may miss the boxing day Test :(  Aaroncrick  ( talk )  Review me! 00:18, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Haven't dropped into the WACA by any chance? WA v SA later this month will be good with Gayle playing.  Aaroncrick  ( talk )  Review me! 00:21, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I went on Thursday for the 1st two sessions but missed most of Gayle's slogathon due to another commitment. I did see lots of Aussie runs scored though and the argy-bargy between Benn and Haddin. I'd left just before Gayle's hit onto the roof of the Lillee-Marsh stand.   I went again yesterday afternoon for the Tea session which was very slow.  Am planning to see Gayle's T20 match for WA.  Ponting certainly wasn't 100% yesterday.  Its a pity Aussie wasn't playing for a win.   –Moondyne 05:27, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Can't see Ponting playing on Boxing Day. Oh well, just replace him with George Bailey - another Launie boy. No Tas Twenty20 matches at the paddock here :( Only a list A match earlier in the season.  Aaroncrick  ( talk )  Review me! 05:34, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

screenwest
Firstly, thanks for tagging it up for improvement as part of a wikiproject- hopefully that gets some more editors working on it. and thanks for the link, ive bookmarked it.

in terms of importance - yes, it is very subjective.

Screenwest is the main source of film + television funding in western australia- i personally would rate that as more important than say an individual premier or a landmark (depends what landmark i suppose. def more important than say the belltower). Note that i only took it up to middle importance for australia, and high for wa. Ill ignore the australia wide context for now, but no way its the lowest possible category of importance for WA. you are correct that the screenwest article doesn't currently show notability as well as it could- i created the page like 2 days ago + i tagged it as a stub, i'll get around to working on it when i can (the west australian screen awards and film and television institute articles also need work + i've got a job application to do that im currently trying to avoid) --Brunk500 (talk) 13:20, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Just a follow up on that- i checked out the list of high importance wa articles as you suggested, and screenwest i think easily slots in there- in fact its of much higher importance than say the cygnet cinema. --Brunk500 (talk) 13:29, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

like you can see, i've only bumped up the importance one step from low to mid for WA, and haven touched importance to australia, as a compromise given oour difference of opinion. given that one of the premiers in the high category was only in the job for 3 months i think its a fair call :) --Brunk500 (talk) 14:11, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

not sure theres any conflict of interest issue.. i dont work for screenwest nor have i received funding from them. theres a subjectivity issue sure but its not the same thing. --Brunk500 (talk) 15:05, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

re: screenwest only existing for 10 years- before that it was called the West Australian Film Corporation- which i've now noted on the article. like i said, work in progress. I didnt take much offence at the COI thing, i think words over the net tend to come across as more pissy than intended --Brunk500 (talk) 15:43, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

nice addition of funding values etc to the screenwest page. --Brunk500 (talk) 09:40, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

doh
Thanks for that - knew that but forgot it :( SatuSuro 08:38, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Paddy O'Brien
Ta, sure needs doing, but initiated by someone less connected than yours truly. Cheers Bjenks (talk) 14:44, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Oh dear I cannot believe that any good would come from one of my talk archives... tut tut, oh dear... as for the blustering bombastics of the old boys - at least they had colourful characters compared to the dull grey appartchicks of today (this is all after I have gone into the bowels of my talk archive to see why it was being referred to :) SatuSuro 10:17, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Happy New Year sir
For you a bright sparking new little noisy child of sorts http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earthquakes_in_Western_Australia may its nappies be not too human :) SatuSuro 07:21, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

A$
Thanks for the advice, I guess I've been a bit careless there. The fact that Australia uses the same symbole then the US for our Dollar is a bit of a pain, especially when dealing with subjects that connect to both countries, like Australian mines owned by US companies! Hard to figure out at times which Dollar they are talking about and painful to have to disambiguate it in an article! Anyway, I will try to improve and be more careful! Calistemon (talk) 10:23, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I've gone through and fixed most of my mistakes, I do the rest bit by bit. If you got time, could you have a quick look at another Western Australian DYK nomination of mine, for Golden Grove Mine? It would, as always, be much appreciated. Its a somewhat interessting and political one:
 * that the sale of the Golden Grove Mine and other assets, worth US$1.354 billion, from OZ Minerals to China Minmetals was only approved by the Australian Government after the Prominent Hill Mine was excluded from the deal?

Thanks, Calistemon (talk) 06:19, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

File:Harry Boyle.jpg
Hello, Moondyne. I stumbled across File:Harry Boyle.jpg and noticed it has no source information. It is tagged as being in the public domain with a tag that claims the photographer died over 100 years ago, but there is no way to verify this claim. Do you have any more information about this photo? —Bkell (talk) 15:54, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I have no idea :-(. However, I've found a clearer copy of the same image in 200 Season's of Australian Cricket (p. 66), so will scan and upload that as a new version, with citation, sometime in the next few days.  Cheers.  –Moondyne 14:32, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
 * New img uploaded to Commons as COMMONS:File:Harry Boyle.png and this one tagged for speedy deletion. All sorted.  –Moondyne 04:16, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks! —Bkell (talk) 13:01, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Twenty20
Have you gone to any matches thus far, or are you going tomorrow?  Aaroncrick  ( talk )   11:26, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Saw the Tas V NSW FR cup match here in Launceston, then went to the Twenty20 match in Perth - WA V SA.  Aaroncrick  ( talk )   07:56, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Good source of photos, if you are close to the city, and times are convenient  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket )  08:24, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Should have I suppose :) Some nice weather, but man, Bunker Bay had that many flies I vowed never to go back. They eased up on Wednesday/Thursday last week. Perth's a good city however.  Aaroncrick  ( talk )   08:25, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * (Just noticed message on Satu's tp) Haha, nice beach at Bunker Bay, I must say. Were the flies still as bad? They supposedly peak at Christmas and decrease from then on - and those head-nets look ridiculous! - better than eating flies, though! The Swan is a lot bigger than I thought; and Kings Park is massive, except I went to the Botanical Gardens on a real hot day! (I'm Tasmanian remember)  Aaroncrick  ( talk )   10:33, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * There used to be a t -sirt with logo WA State of excitement and on the reverse a billion flies cannot be wrong SatuSuro 12:09, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Intruded
(apologies for messing it) On the sub page from december - dont forget the derivative award and etc SatuSuro 13:36, 12 January 2010 (UTC) As for Harris - he did have the ADB article - are you unconvinced the info in the adb entry is worth an article, or being the in the 100? SatuSuro 13:42, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
 * re Longford - thanks I didn't know about that award and had sort of forgotten about the article also. Another broken new year's resolution: must finish things ...   re Harris - lets not go there!.  Cheers –Moondyne 14:11, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I could take you out to a very long lunch - and explain some of the not very well organised places that I have ventured since the last one - getting to know the burns clinic at RPH is one :( - I should have tried for a dyk with the earthquakes list etc etc as well SatuSuro 14:23, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Shit, I hope you're OK. –Moondyne 14:25, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Fine - Yeah the whole thing is very educational as to the thing of being a volunteer fire fighter - its horrible to look at should be ok in a few weeks and - well I was very lucky - gory details at lunch some time :) - my user page tries to make fun of it - hose/chopper/graveyard :) - as for BB I think it is marginal in notability - what do you think? I have some piccies somewhere too from 22 years ago :) SatuSuro 14:30, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
 * All places are notable, and that one moreso than many, I reckon. I'll put something together.  –Moondyne 14:38, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually the recently fallen rs of the gc fame tried to mine the place for coal :) viz Western Australia. Environmental Protection Authority. EPA report and recommendations on applications by Griffin Coal Mining Co. for two prospecting licences at Bunker Bay, W.A. also others at http://henrietta.slwa.wa.gov.au/search~S2?/XBunker+Bay&searchscope=2&SORT=D/XBunker+Bay&searchscope=2&SORT=D&SUBKEY=Bunker%20Bay/1%2C14%2C14%2CB/frameset&FF=XBunker+Bay&searchscope=2&SORT=D&4%2C4%2C - interestting the place must be bit like peppie grove $$ can work wonders - let me know your subpage or ill watch - i think i might have a few offline sources for it as well - SatuSuro 14:43, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
 * 1st question: Is it a locality, or a land form, or both? –Moondyne 15:04, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry geosciences is very slow to load or one of my kids is playing a heavy game:( SatuSuro 15:10, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I dont trust it - geosciences says BAY -33º 32' 35 S [Decimal Degrees -33.54306º] 115º 2' 28 E [Decimal Degree 115.0411º] WA100004932 SatuSuro 15:12, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I suspect that it is Dunsborough west -sort of - when I went there 26/27 years ago it was like a collection of summer houses on a quiet private beach - by 22 there were enough $1m houses to make it feel like dawesville cut area - havent been recently :) SatuSuro 15:16, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

Unreferenced BLPs
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Patrick McGorry
Think you should know someone is already making 'unconstructive' edits to you new article --220.101.28.25 (talk) 10:31, 25 January 2010 (UTC)


 * and it wasnt me! Earlypsychosis (talk) 06:43, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
 * If you say so! ;) –Moondyne 07:37, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Jean-Paul Turcaud
Remember our little discussion about him, the man that discovered the Telfer Mine? I'm trying to take the story to the main page now. It makes interessting reading. Calistemon (talk) 12:46, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm digging through the ABC article now to pick out the raisins, quite a bit of information there. Calistemon (talk) 13:15, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Youngest
Nice job! I think it is much more readable than the plain-text version I made. What are you not so sure about? Below are a couple thoughts I might suggest (but I'm not sure they'd work out until I tried)  Put everything into the table, including the title and references, so that it is totally self-contained. I picture it included at the very bottom, just above the categories. (For example check the entry for M. Ward at the bottom of the page) Maybe nested tables? I would make the initial sort order by date of journey. That also gives a nice progression from solo to solo-nonstop. Put departure and return dates in the same column, two lines in each cell (lost ability to sort?). 

I might have time to try a bit of this later. (SEC (talk) 13:30, 27 January 2010 (UTC))

I didn't get much time today, and what I tried didn't turn out well. Maybe I can try more later, but I'll recommend that you replace the current template:Youngest circumnavigator with what you have done and we can refine it from there. As is, your work will be a great improvement. (SEC (talk) 23:06, 27 January 2010 (UTC))

I just noticed others have made a number of modifications to it already; you might want to check those changes against your copy. All the more reason to deploy your version, too. (SEC (talk) 23:11, 27 January 2010 (UTC))

I corrected one date, otherwise it looks great. Nice job! As to your original concern of it not being official, my opinion is that doesn't change the fact that it is real. These may not be recognized by any official organization, but they are still sailing records. These are real journeys by real people that are newsworthy and noteworthy and thus valid Wikipedia entries. And I'd say let's move any more discussion to Template talk:Youngest circumnavigator, agreed? (SEC (talk) 03:25, 28 January 2010 (UTC))
 * Roger that!. –Moondyne 04:00, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

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Pop down to the WACA nets?
Unfortunately, SACA's contractors wouldn't let me within 40 metres this year, so no photos of Pak. Pretty ridiculous, given that they don't bother checking for weapons or any of that thing, and the guards are unarmed. And in any case, teh guard was pretty portly and even a guy who runs 100m in 15s like me could dodge them. I did get Voges before the security guy ordered me back  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket )  00:58, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
 * They dont expect launceston based camerapersons to be on the search for a good wiki commons piccie - thats all SatuSuro 01:00, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Don't know of any primates here in Launnie. — Aaroncrick   ( talk )   02:39, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Adelaide, I believe ;) –Moondyne 01:47, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
 * No chance of anything today I'm afraid and am planning for a late arrival (~4pm) tomorrow, so not sure what I could get then. I might wander down to the nets on Saturday to see what's happening.  –Moondyne 01:47, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
 * You should email the WACA folks as well to make sure, although even if the team doesn't come sometimes the odd individual player comes by himself  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket )  02:09, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

They wouldn't let me anywhere near the WI men either, but as women's cricketers aren't given any protection, I made hay! Hence the signature calling for the photo poll  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars photo poll )  06:25, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I went down to have a look on the Saturday but the nets were deserted. I went to the Sunday match which included the pitch invader fiasco which from my recollection was in the same spot where Alderman tackled the drunken Pom in 82.  Anyway, no pics from me.  Will check out your poll - I hadn't realised Perry was so young...  –Moondyne 07:24, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

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 * All I did was create a redirect . I also have nothing to do with this.  –Moondyne 01:33, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

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Your scrutiny
Please sir http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:GreatBoulderPerserveranceSat.jpg - cheers SatuSuro 12:41, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Looks fine. Scanner not working?  –Moondyne 13:29, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Nope while i was away the wife cleaned up my office cannot find the expensive epson scanner special cables :) - so the damned holding the camera in the hand and parallax issues :( SatuSuro 13:49, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I'll pick up the assessment while I am still keen on it - hope we see someone spruice the WA portal up sometime too - SatuSuro 14:07, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

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Welcome back
We missed you  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  02:46, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
 * And I missed you. I haven't been far. –Moondyne 03:36, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Well I haven't done much either, a lot of photo cropping of the NSW/SA men after I finished with the women  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  04:03, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

I should nag you for the photopoll! last call! Saw that you just created Nederpelt. Pity he hasn't made a splasha at senior level  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  03:34, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Ned. was in the back of my mind for ages. I think his horse has bolted.  –Moondyne 03:38, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Judging by last week, we'll be lucky to beat GBR at the Comm Games in any swim relays, unless they run away with Delhi belly :(  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  04:06, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

At last
I think that must be a year or more http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SatuSuro I got around to an imitatory cleanup - it feels much better now :) SatuSuro 02:05, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Ugly Men's Association

 * Kewl!! –Moondyne 07:07, 1 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Yeah Charities based in Australia seems a possible cat - but it smacks of recentism - there seems nothing about historic charities in oz - maybe we need a cat? SatuSuro 07:22, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

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Email and Yagan
Replied. Also are you going to renovate Yagan anytime because it will be FARed sooner or later..  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  01:16, 7 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Hello. I found Fforde, Green and Hasluck and managed to account for almost all of it except maybe 5% and you could just chop some of it if it isn't important. The old 2005/06 are coming to the front of the queue and Canberra has fallen in the pit with Australia and History of the ACT. Hopefully the remainder of Yagan can be dealt with easily; I've been trying to renovate the old FAs with varying success. Best regards  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  07:30, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Ta
WA project lists - I had started removing 1 year or more absence from the oz list and the wa list - but realise the departed need a list of their own :| - ta for the help SatuSuro 13:35, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
 * no wurries. Cheers. –Moondyne 13:39, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I hadn't realised some had been delisted. I might add them back into the 2nd list.  –Moondyne 13:41, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
 * At the national list those who hadnt edited for over 18 months or more I trashed em (I mean some had edited a few times in 2006, or 2007 and never seen again) - will need to revisit my editing and reinstate at some point - the dreaded second list - bet it is longer than the first now :) SatuSuro 13:52, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Jessica Watson
Hi Moondyne: someone removed the section on Circumnavigation scrutiny that you added to the Jessica Watson article. While disturbing information, it certainly does belong in the article. (SEC (talk) 20:50, 3 May 2010 (UTC))
 * Thanks. It seems you've reinstated it now.  Cheers.  –Moondyne 00:26, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

I don't understand. You asked for a rewrite and compromise. I did just that yet you simply delete in entirety.

I note that others also think the longer article should stay. Yet I reworded, shortened, and removed some comments. I am happy to remove praise comment as well, though I thought it was ok. Is that what you want?

Please act in good faith —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cowabunga438 (talk • contribs) 05:27, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

You also have breached the edit rule and a warning has been placed.

If you read the talk page you will see that there is some consensus for the longer article AND I have made the compromise you requested. However you seem to ignore both of these. --Cowabunga438 (talk) 05:44, 12 May 2010 (UTC)


 * At the time of my revert, there had been no compromise. –Moondyne 06:22, 12 May 2010 (UTC)


 * That is incorrect. All the compromises I made happened before your warning.  See the history section.  I made 6 large compromises - the final edit which was very similar to what is there now.  There was large consensus from knowledgeable sailors. I suspect you didn't even read the edits I made.  I took out large sections you disagreed with and asked you specifically if you wanted more taken out.  Yet you warn me for edit warring and get a mate to bar.  I plainly made major compromises, you simply reverted.


 * I am now out of here. Shall not participate again when people abuse power like this.  Thoroughly disillusioned.  At least I know from reading various articles here that you wouldn't know a well crafted and eloquent piece if it fell out of the sky landed on your face and wiggled.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cowabunga438 (talk • contribs) 07:24, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Moondyne, I really respect your efforts to keep this article balanced. First for fighting to include the criticism, and then fighting to keep it from being excessive. Thanks. (SEC (talk) 04:28, 14 May 2010 (UTC))
 * Thanks. –Moondyne 06:57, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Youngest circumnavigator
Please see the Youngest circumnavigator template. I suggested that "Since neither WSSRC nor Guinness is awarding records anymore, perhaps remove all mention of records and just let the numbers convey the story?" I'd appreciate your opinion on this. (SEC (talk) 12:25, 19 May 2010 (UTC))

Brooksy
Hi Moondyne. Since you have edited a few swimmers before, including this, and probably are well acquainted with this fellow,  Featured article candidates/Neil Brooks/archive1  YellowMonkey   ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  01:12, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank, I'll have a read. Through mutual friends, met him several times in 1980s and can confirm the reputation as fairly accurate. Lived life (at least then) hard and fast.  –Moondyne 05:25, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, interesting. Not sure if you know about Peter Evans (swimmer) of Scotch College either then. Same period and put him up as well Featured article candidates/Neil Brooks/archive1  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  02:22, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
 * No to Evans, but it sounds like they were mates. Nice work again YM.  I had a little publication called W.A. Hall of Champions inductee booklet from the WAIS which ahd a page or so bio of Brooksey, but I've mislaid the damned thing.  Still looking.  –Moondyne 06:43, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, I wonder if it is more detailed the little bit on the WAHOC website?  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  08:18, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

removing cited content
I disagree. I think you could have added "at least," rather than rm sourced and verifiable content which is helpful to readers. All the best, Gwen Gale (talk) 14:40, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Edit summaries make it difficult to properly explain the gist. I think that such info is tabloid in style and inappropriate for an encylopaedia.  Its an angle which reads like padding in a journo's piece and I fail to see how it would be helpful to readers.  –Moondyne 14:47, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
 * The Australian search plane pilot told her mother the boat (probably) rolled. AS told the searchers she had righted the boat. The mast snapped. She could easily have lost both her food and her heat. Hence my thinking that it's helpful to readers, to bring up the cited presence of both food and heat. Gwen Gale (talk) 14:51, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Meh. put it back if you like.  –Moondyne 14:54, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

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Welcome back!
Welcome back to the Cabal admin corps. :) A lot's changed since last January, but not that much, so I'm sure you'll get back into it quickly enough. Let me know if I can be of assistance. Best, HJ Mitchell  &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   15:51, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Hats off  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  00:37, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Cripes I thought you were elsewhere... and you got the tools again - I cannot keep up with you! Cheers SatuSuro 08:58, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Leaving Monday. –Moondyne 10:18, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

In London, back on the weekend. –Moondyne 08:57, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Keeping up with other sandgropers
Is there anything i should do aside from maintaining my WM:AU membership? Warmest Regards, :)—thecurran Speak your mind my past 17:45, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Apologies if I missed something but I have no idea what you're asking me. Also, I'm no longer a WM:AU member.  –Moondyne 08:56, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I think I see what you're asking. WT:WA is what you need.  –Moondyne 09:12, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Lady Elizabeth work
Hello- I saw that you deleted the flags I had installed for the Lady Elizabeth (1879) article. Although I am new at this and respect your changes, I was wondering if their is a rule stating "excess use of flags" and if not, why are the changes made. You changes to my article do not upset me in anyway but this is a learning process for me and would like a little more input on your changes if you would please. Thank you. Lukeduk1980 (talk) 06:42, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
 * WP:MOSFLAG. I have no problem with a flag showing the ensign but fail to see the importance of Port(s) of registry such that they have flags also. AFAIK the ship never sailed under the Norwegian or Isle of Man flags, so why give it such prominence? "Icons should not be added only because they look good, because aesthetics are in the eye of the beholder: one reader's harmless decoration may be another reader's distraction. Icons may be purely decorative in the technical sense that they convey no additional useful information and nothing happens when you click on them; but purely decorative icons should still have a useful purpose in providing navigational or layout cues outside of article prose. Avoid adding icons that provide neither additional useful information relevant to the article subject nor navigational or layout cues that aid the reader. Icons should serve an encyclopaedic purpose other than decoration."  Clicking on some random ship articles shows widespread use of flagicons in port of registry, so I'm probably fighting a losing battle.  Do as you wish, I'm not that bothered about it.  –Moondyne 02:29, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Undelete request
G'day Joe, not sure if I'm the only one using it, but I regularly use(d) the WikiProject Cricket/Articles list with the "related changes" tool to see what's being edited - saves having a huge watchlist. So could you please undelete it - I'll even manually update it (AWB) every now and then. I also use the AFL list, so please don't delete it either! Cheers, The-Pope (talk) 14:20, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅. Watchlistbot which updated that page has been inactive for yonks so I assumed hardly anyone was would be using it.  Page view stats seemed to mostly confirm that.  But updating with AWB is a good idea.  –Moondyne 00:42, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the VFL protection
Sometimes I think the people who spend their time at AIV or RPP have seen so much vandalism that they build up a tolerance much higher than the average editor who's sick of hitting rollback 2 or 3 times on the same article even over a few days. Cheers, The-Pope (talk) 14:27, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Wow
Thanks for that! Amazing the time it takes SatuSuro 10:43, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
 * It'd been broken since May and no-ones noticed - that shouldn't happen any more. I was worried someone would nom it for deletion. ;) –Moondyne 12:54, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
 * hahah the Indonesian one which has been untouched for yonks went through the proposed deletion process - the nominator was most offended that the proposal was considered clearly out of order - sigh SatuSuro 12:59, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Redirect page
Hi there. The editors who created the Codewit articles obviously also created this redirect. The title of the redirect page is found in one of the created articles, in the "Career and Activism" section, in the 2nd paragraph. Since the redirect leads to the article which is now up on Afd, is it required to additionally tag the redirect page for deletion as well ? Amsaim (talk) 23:42, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Nah, I wouldn't worry. Either myself or the closing admin can deal with it when the discussions close.  Thanks for your work. –Moondyne 00:22, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Maps
I don't see any issue with it when compared to the other maps...? Timeshift (talk) 02:35, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Care to take a screenshot and upload it to imageshack? Timeshift (talk) 02:54, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
 * and . Using FF on 1440x900 screen. I see similar badness with IE on same computer. –Moondyne 03:03, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah yes, I see the issue now when I view the 2010 maps page. I'm not sure what's happened. In the meantime, i've reverted the image. It's better to have the same quality rather than a party name correction... hopefully Adam can help. Timeshift (talk) 03:42, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
 * That's fine. –Moondyne 03:53, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Fixed. I'd saved it with transparency which I'd thought I'd unticked. Fool.  –Moondyne 04:11, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

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Hope you agree
It is in effect becoming a region in itself - so added the regions of wa cat tag - cheers SatuSuro
 * Cool. –Moondyne 03:01, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

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hmmm
The yachting/sailing issue is in one sense explained at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Yachting and in one sense the whole wiki cat structure for the two terms is an unholy mess as explained at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_talk:Yachting- but hey I have no problem with you reverting that - it seems that some heavy re-arranging might be due some time later .... SatuSuro 15:04, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
 * LofYCinWA shouldn't be in the parent, IMHO. –Moondyne 15:07, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Ahah the old parent child overcat issue i fear to unravel in one mighty octopus/squid like part of Indonesian regency lists - yuk - I understand SatuSuro 15:09, 21 September 2010 (UTC)


 * parmelia - now that is a neat trick - must remember the parameters - i can think of a number of arts that need something like that - cheers !!  SatuSuro 15:17, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Only works with Mozilla though. "-webkit-column-count:" will make it also work with Chrome.  AFAIK IE ignores it.  –Moondyne 15:24, 21 September 2010 (UTC)


 * So would it be worth trying in the inordinately long list of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Australian_Broadcasting_Corporation_programs ?? in your opinion - is it worth the effort? SatuSuro 08:30, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

WOW - brilliantissimo - if it was kosher to give you a barnstart for formatting previously daggish looking dumb lists - hey you got it! thanks for that SatuSuro 12:32, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

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reflist update
I love you! Thanks so much for updating that; I stared at the two-columned listing at GSPN for several seconds before realizing it was suddenly working! (I use Google Chrome for Mac) Thanks again! —  pd_THOR  undefined | 04:44, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Ta. I switched to Chrome (from FF) last week and like it a lot, especially the bigger screen area.  It does some good things with tabs which are hard to explain.  I also like the home page (most visited) thingo.  Cheers.  –Moondyne 07:04, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

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DYK nomination of Codiponte
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DYK for Codiponte
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Your opinion
I am about to in the next week create an stub about short wave radio here in WA - and had inserted http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_radio_station_callsigns_in_Western_Australia&action=historysubmit&diff=389772671&oldid=389387513 - your opinion - a reasonable revert? or not? SatuSuro 05:58, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually - thinking about finding the very hard to find overview of SW in OZ as an ABC outlet 40's to 80's - maybe its another stub sometime - sorry to have bothered SatuSuro 06:26, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Looks good. –Moondyne 11:04, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

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Rottnest Island
Hi Moondyne, by removing a refimprove tag with the comment "unhelpful tagspam" I'm left unsure if you're suggesting all tags are spam and none of them are helpful, or if I was attempting to spam (?) the article and trying to be unhelpful in this particular instance. Could you help me out?Alistair Stevenson (talk) 23:52, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I fail to see how it improves the article. And don't tell me it alerts users that more references are needed-they already know that.  That tag on a relatively stable, non-controversial, low traffic article, without indication of what statements are causing concern, is unhelpful.   I cannot see how you could be unsure about me thinking "all tags are spam and none of them are helpful".  –Moondyne 03:52, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

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V impressed by the bushfire re-fit - looks good SatuSuro 13:24, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes indeed, and thanks for sorting out the article titling conundrum. 21:35, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I'll second that. Easy way to win a merge proposal: Just do it and show everybody how much better it is. Top work.--Yeti Hunter (talk) 10:14, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

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I've been writing articles on Australia's lighthouses, done NSW and NT, was planning to move to QLD when I had the time. I'd be happy to help with any lighthouse articles. Muhandes (talk) 09:30, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Pipe trick
You were right, I didn't know about that one! Thanks, Calistemon (talk) 12:28, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Alan Bond
Hi - can you explain, either here or (preferably) at the article talk page, the logic behind removing the template? Thanks, hamiltonstone (talk) 08:41, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Here is fine, and thanks for asking and opening the discussion. I think a template titled "Australian criminals" is fine as an indexing aid for categories and major topical articles etc, but to plonk it on an article about a living person (per WP:BLP) is a bit unfair, especially when the person has paid his dues and for all appearances has moved on.  Ask yourself how you'd feel finding such a banner on a biographical article about yourself.  Bond was plenty notable long before issues of criminality arose and the majority of the article correctly reflects that. Refer WP:DONOHARM and perhaps explain to me how the template improves the article.  (I'm sounding like I'm a fan or defending him which I'm not, for the record) –Moondyne 13:08, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I agree that edits should not tar people as criminals for life - which is why I did this at Rodney Adler. But at some point, if one is going to have a template (such as "Australian criminals"), one should probably put it on all the pages to which its content is linked. Otherwise, one ends up with an arbitrary or contentious decision to be made about who should get it and who doesn't. Bond's criminal conviction probably rates as the most high-profile Australian white collar crime conviction of an individual in at least my lifetime, (though I recognise there area a few other contenders!) I understand the issues you raise, but i also don't see harm in the template that would not already caused by documenting the conviction in the text itself (which is the case) - and no-one would suggest that WP:BLP should preclude that. To the extent that the template helps readers to place Bond in a broader context of Australian crime, it does no harm, it benefits the encyclopedia. Would I like it if it were on my page? No, but I'm still inclined to think it is the better policy. Either that or dismantle the template altogether from all pages... hamiltonstone (talk) 22:26, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks
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Brilliant
Your usual high quality! well done SatuSuro 14:40, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

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Brilliant work. Well done. Jack | talk page 15:03, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
 * User:MoondyneAWB is helping, as is your good-self. Thanks likewise.  We only have 56 here and 3800 here, to do.  –Moondyne 15:20, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
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DYK for Wadjemup Lighthouse
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List of ODI Cricket Series against Sri Lanka
Hello, I am the creator of List of ODI Cricket Series against Sri Lanka and saw that you deleted it, why? I got no notice of it and am not sure why you did it.--Blackknight12 (talk) 07:19, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
 * As per the deletion log: "‎A3: Article that has no meaningful, substantive content". I restored it to your user space at User:Blackknight12/List of ODI Cricket Series against Sri Lanka to allow you to work on it.  Please don't move it into the main article space until there's more content.  –Moondyne 07:32, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Moondyne AWB edits assessing importance
Hi Moondyne. I see your AWB account has done a ton of work assessing importance of articles. How did you do this quite so quickly? I don't mean technically, I mean in terms of weighing up the relative merits of how important each article is? --Dweller (talk) 15:40, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
 * The editing was the easy bit. The preceeding 2 weeks was spent prepping several offline lists as well as doing some low-hanging fruit with AWB and manually.  I crossrefed with other article categories such as Cat:Test cricketers etc. and used WikiDatabaseScanner to check article sizes and keywords.  And I visually scanned hundreds of articles also.  I intend to rescan the full set against categories sometime in the next few days.  –Moondyne 00:37, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah, that makes sense. Thanks. I find the importance designation really hard work! Cheers for your efforts/explanation. --Dweller (talk) 09:06, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Geraldton
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 * WTF is this place coming to? Hesperian 00:02, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Dumbot. I didn't even open that OpenArtists URL till just now, and the closest phrase I can see is "The botanical, zoological and geological collections he presented to the institute were the foundations of the West Australian Museum." vs my "...an extensive library as well as natural history collections including botanical, zoological and mineral specimens." The irony is that I read and cited Uren/ADB and the OpenArtists article does have some close paraphrasing from there. Mine does not. –Moondyne 00:07, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
 * bots aside - http://henrietta.liswa.wa.gov.au/search/?searchtype=X&SORT=D&searcharg=Perth+Literary+Institute&searchscope=2&submit.x=38&submit.y=17&submit=Submit has some interesting bits too SatuSuro 00:28, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Could you please check http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Swan_River_Mechanics_Institute_Library_Paste_down.jpg to make sure I got the licensing and permissions right in the end? I dont do it often enough ...SatuSuro
 * T'is good. –Moondyne 00:53, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Am hoping the scans/shots of PLInstitute are well out of the pre 50's as well for PD - will try in the next day or so SatuSuro 00:56, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

By the way I've written in John Septimus Roe that "Both the Western Australian Museum and the State Library of Western Australia emerged from the Institute, Roe's large scientific collection forming the basis for the museum's collection. Jackson (1982) has argued that Roe can be regarded as the founder of both institutions." I can provide the relevant pages of Jackson if you want to add something on this. Hesperian 01:04, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Its a good point and worth adding. Feel free to expand it yourself or send me something. Forrest praised him also –Moondyne 01:13, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

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Do you think my putting Franklin dam and Lake pedder in that cat was accurate - your opinion is always appreciated whichever way SatuSuro 12:16, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/12/08/3087695.htm?section=justin - SatuSuro 00:21, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Crazy. –Moondyne 14:17, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Updated Blank for Australian Schools

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Attempt
thanks for helping me out with edits on the CHSHS page

cheers

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You're missing the point
I went for that edit because it is the most neutral text. I mentioned also that I had gone for a 3rd opinion on the issue and requested protection.

Meanwhile, you've essentially locked in something that is wholly inconsistent with every other school page on the site. Why? Why do we allow an interpretation for Newcastle HS' motto where no other school has anything even remotely similar? I've discussed this at []. -Danjel (talk) 15:48, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Firstly, read The Wrong Version. Secondly, reverting and then going to 3O was just wrong.  –Moondyne 15:57, 15 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Heh. I'm not saying that you're wrong. I'm saying that I went for the most neutral text.


 * I was going on advice given in my unblock messages where it was suggested that the better way to have gone about the situation was to go to 3O and to ask for protection. The text that AussieLegend advocates is controversial in the dispute, therefore I removed it. That makes it more neutral. How does this detract from Wikipedia in the short term while the dispute is resolved (not that it will ever be resolved anyway)?


 * I assume that you agree with AussieLegend, and hence my question. Why are we allowing an inconsistency? -Danjel (talk) 16:02, 15 December 2010 (UTC)


 * I explained myself in detail here []., but apparently what I've said is so uncontroversial that noone is willing to comment, but what I've done about what I said is, apparently. WTF? -Danjel (talk) 16:16, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I read that. Yes it is uncontroversial and this is really WP:LAME. For your own sake I strongly suggest you un-watchlist the article.   –Moondyne 23:51, 15 December 2010 (UTC)


 * I see this as rewarding overly territorial overly antagonistic BS. He gets his preferred text (against any attempts to compromise), validation of his ownership of the article and an injunction against interference from someone willing to call him on it. But I see your point that this is a whirlpool, so fine. I'm out. -Danjel (talk) 03:54, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Mac Robertson GHS
That's not their logo, so I undid your change at []. The logo that that edit was relying on belongs to Melbourne High School. Mac Robertson GHS uses two, one is Athena's (?) bust, and the other is a stylised M surrounding GHS. Take a look at their website [].

I tried looking earlier for a clean version of their logo and couldn't find one. I have some documents from the school, so I might try to pull a fair use logo from one or another of them. -Danjel (talk) 15:21, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks, my bad. I assumed good faith without checking.  –Moondyne 15:37, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

Finally...
Was it your quick trip to the WACA on Friday the reason the Aussies fortunes turned around?  Aaroncrick  TALK 07:19, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Who have you been talking to? I did go all Friday.  Hard to believe this was the same team at Bris and Adelaide when they never looked like taking 20 wickets.  –Moondyne 14:46, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Where is YM? –Moondyne 15:19, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah, good to hear. And I have no idea where the monkey is - just disappeared :(  Aaroncrick   TALK 23:03, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

St John's Regional College
Hello, this is in reference tothis edit, Just inquiring, but would it be possible to include this information in a different wording rather than deleting it?--ForgottenHistory (talk) 02:47, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Certainly. Perhaps read this essay first and just use your own words.  Sing out if you need any help.  –Moondyne 03:02, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

Tumut and Parkes High Schools Other schools short on Notability &amp; Content
G'day Moondyne. If you find any more schools in your travels that need content and information added for notability reasons like Tumut High School and Parkes High School, could you please let me know? I'll try to get them up to scratch during the school holidays. I should be able to get this done for, at least, NSW and Vic schools because I'm familiar with most of them. I'm building a to-do list for this reason (and for other school related issues) here: User:Danjel/ToDoList Cheers. -Danjel (talk) 14:48, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks, will do. I posted a note at WP:AWNB which is self-explanatory.  –Moondyne 15:04, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

I'm going to have a crack at those schools you've just given me. Killara PS was fairly easy because I know that that was one of the schools involved in the league tables hooplah. The others are going to be a bit more difficult, particularly the ones outside NSW and Vic. You're from WA... Know anyone in Geraldton who can help with Strathalbyn_Christian_College? :) -Danjel (talk) 16:12, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
 * No I don't unfortunately. Some of these might have to go.  –Moondyne 23:19, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

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Corpus Christi Catholic High School, Woolongong: 22 December 2010
Errr, you do realise that Wollongong is spelt incorrectly ? Cheers, Grogan deYobbo (talk) 06:38, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Far out, that was a shocker. –Moondyne 08:35, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Please
could you check the entry at http://ten.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page - i can see the improvement at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Perth/6#Attendees thanks for that fix - but somehow maybe the fmt in the http://ten.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Main_Page&action=edit went wrong? - cheers SatuSuro 13:50, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
 * . It just needed the page to be created. –Moondyne 14:05, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
 * typical me - complain first and not even follow the instructions - thanks SatuSuro 14:06, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Any ideas on how to get the attention of a good faith editting IP?
See: [] Same person coming back from an IP range.

<blockquote style="background-color: #CCCCCC; color: #000000;">erm this is directed at danjel... my source is bettereducation.com except idk how to put source up so sorry... Just leave it there i swear its true

I imagine that the IP has a genuine citation to add, but I can't find it from what he's said. Any ideas on how to get his/her/its attention so that we can get the URL?

I'm still iffy about ranking generally... But... *shrug* I'm open to changing my mind if the source is good. - danjel  (talk to me) 05:33, 26 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Just to be sure.. I had missed the above message the first time I went into the file. I only saw it last night. - danjel  (talk to me) 05:52, 26 December 2010 (UTC)


 * IP is now at talk page. –Moondyne 12:31, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

Xavier
Howdy! I'm no longer into edit-warring, but I can see a potential one brewing at Xavier College, particularly with "danjel", with whom I have no experience, but I see that you have. Any advice and suggestions would be appreciated. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 13:20, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Xavier College - Key People
I strongly doubt the notability of the two people in the key_people section on Xavier College. See my reply here: Talk:Xavier_College. I think it should stay commented out until some significance is demonstrated.

Pdfpdf seems to put them below the head of the Junior School as well, which means that they're not notable against the standard we have adopted with other schools (that named executive are included). - danjel  (talk to me) 08:53, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I see your comments there. As a sign of good faith, please don't revert myself or Pdf until we reach a consensus on this.  –Moondyne 09:01, 28 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Sure, but I have a problem with *adding* information before consensus, as you know. - danjel  (talk to me) 09:04, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
 * They've been in the infobox for months, at least. –Moondyne 09:06, 28 December 2010 (UTC)


 * You and I both know of examples where vandalism has stuck around for ages before being found and edited out. The same is even more true of uncited or erroneous material.


 * There's no information, anywhere, on any of these individuals. At the very least they're not citable. If the Xavier website doesn't even mention them, then they're not significant, and not notable.


 * At best we're tolerating something that is inconsistent, unverifiable and unnecessary. At worst we're tolerating something that is plain unverifiably wrong. - danjel  (talk to me) 10:49, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Vandalism is a different matter. Lets AGF for the moment and perhaps Pdf will enlighten us. Another day or 2 won't hurt.  –Moondyne 12:32, 28 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Not saying it's vandalism. I'm saying it's likely to be erroneous. Errors that seem legit stick around here a very long time, and it's not a good reason to believe in them.
 * OK on AGF. The way discussion is going over there I seriously doubt anything enlightening will present itself. - danjel  (talk to me) 12:35, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

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Didn't see your post at Xavier until now
I had been trying bloody hard in the face of, again, someone who WP:OWNed the article, to it's detriment, to be civil and to move forward in the face of policy. I was and am unequivocably in the right this time, and I've even, just now, come up with a compromise with a more reasonable editor on the other side that seems acceptable. Perhaps you were trying to be a peacemaker or some such bs by acknowledging both sides, but your post is condescending and insulting and I expect to be treated better. Don't bother replying. I'm out. - danjel  (talk to me) 12:17, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

PS: Seriously, "insult[ing]"? Did you see me insult him once? Pfft.
 * Protest noted. –Moondyne 13:43, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Interview request
"WikiProject Report" would like to focus on WikiProject Cricket for an article for The Signpost. This is an excellent opportunity to draw attention to your efforts and attract new members to the project. Would you be willing to participate in an interview? If so, here are the questions for the interview. Just add your response below each question and feel free to skip any questions that you don't feel comfortable answering. Thanks and I take this opportunity to wish you a very Happy New Year! – SMasters (talk) 07:13, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
 * No thanks. –Moondyne 07:42, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Changed my mind. –Moondyne 03:35, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
 * good one mate SatuSuro 03:41, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

WikiProject Education in Australia/Guideline
Hi Moondyne. Australian school articles are some of the most difficult to keep track of. At WP:WPSCH the replacement for AlertBot is now up and running with the school project as one of the prototypes. Over the past eeks the WP:WPSCH pages have been re formatted and tidied up, especially some aspects being split off into sub pages because the main page was getting too long. Do please take a moment to check it out, and you may find that you can avoid some unnecessary duplication. I also think it would be a very good idea to place plenty of links to WP:WPSCH especialy, WP:WPSCH/AG which we've smartened up and made more readable. Do check out also the use of school infoboxes which has been standardised for quite a long time to make it easier for page creators and the regulars at the school project. Also, you might wish to consider placing the generic Australia project template on the talk pages of Australian schools. My speciality is not Oz schools per se, but don't hesitate to contact me if you feel the available fields on the two Australian boxes do not address today's needs - these are fixes that can easily be made. There is going to be a major campaign to clean up school articles during 2011, if you are not already a member of the Schools project, do consider joining and seeing where you can help. More news later! Kind regards, and all the best for 2011. --Kudpung (talk) 06:19, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. User:Danjel and myself have started a cleanup on the Australian school articles which included moving any that weren't there already to infobox school.  That had been proposed numerous times in the past but it seems that no-one had gotten around to doing it.  That's now complete and the 2 now-unused AU infoboxes are currently at TfD.  We also removed some superfluous infobox data  and so most of the 1100 odd articles have had at least a light going over.  In the course of doing that I haven't seen any additional fields needed, but think that an effort could be made to identify little used fields or fields of dubious encyclopaedic value, and perhaps look to removing these - WP:DISINFOBOX comes to mind.   I'd be very cautious about adding any new fields! The major problem I see is that with the infobox covering so many issues and so easy to use its nearly a disincentive for an editor to add prose.  I regret I must decline your offer to join as I'm spreading myself a bit thinly now and am unlikely to maintain more than a passing interest.  Good luck! –Moondyne 06:52, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

W McEwan
Hi Moondyne,

Let me take you back 2 years, and test your memory. I've just added a proper infobox to W McEwan (for which you did a lot of clean-up/referencing in December 2008! There is some discrepancy between what is there, and what is referenced (to CA). The original article had a full date-of-death, (and place of death as Nice, and I think you added the reference to CA (which confirms the year, but has the location as Victoria). The old "infobox" decided that his first name was William. Have you any sources you looked at, or any ideas of how to tell what information is genuine or what came from an old, non-referenced source? He's one of the one-match-wonders, so hardly the most important, but may as well sort it out while I've noticed! Any ideas? &mdash;User:MDCollins (talk) 21:55, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Alas, no recollection whatsoever. I checked books I might have used and nothing there, so can only assume I made the name William up, or it has since been dropped from CA (which is improbable).  I did however find a contemporary newspaper account of the match which I cited from the article.  I also adjusted his date of death to c.1862.  –Moondyne 03:43, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Cheers&mdash;User:MDCollins (talk) 23:47, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

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Intriguing
I would say that texas gulf (I have some nagging query in my memory about texas gulf sulfur) must be the only firm that I and my paternal cousin have both worked for/and or lived off the proceeds - yet a query via texasgult shows no art on wp - odd :|  SatuSuro 15:17, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
 * In 1972 Texasgulf had a JV agreement with HPPL and WPPL to establish the Iron Ore (Rhodes Ridge) Agreement with the WA Government. Page 16 of this Powerpoint doc shows a photo of Lang in front of a sign that says "Texasgulf Australia Rhodes Ridges Project". The same document later says "these areas were then confiscated by the West Australian government, and later given to a competing company". Boohoo.  Apart from that I know nothing.  –Moondyne 23:43, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
 * some info at the meetup SatuSuro 00:56, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

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the water under Boans, Perth Rail station etc
I have a copy of ravine and seddon - if you dont have one I can bring it saturday - excellent for the great lakes - cheers SatuSuro 09:41, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
 * You mean A city and its setting? Got access to it. Thanks anyway. –Moondyne 10:29, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

yes - good - excellent - no probs - just intruding :) – SatuSuro 12:36, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
 * matilda looks much better now - thanks for that :) SatuSuro 02:12, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Crawley Bay - Anna or Maria (or both)
Thanks for your amendment to Mark John Currie. I obtained the name Maria Crawley from the University of Western Australia archives here. If Anna is correct, you may wish to alter Matilda Bay as well. Apuldram (talk) 15:28, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Bugger. I saw the UWA page and was hoping you'd be able to supply another source to add some weight to one or the other.  I'm happy to revert back to Maria if you like. Also we need to make a footnote noting the discrepancy.   –Moondyne 15:51, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Sutherland is buried at East Perth and had a daughter Anna Maria.. Obituary.  Nothing that helps of course. –Moondyne 16:07, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks
For fixing the perth things up - will get to the inactive participants list in a day or so - think most are long gone - and then... some stuff on freo arts - unless someone else does it - cheers SatuSuro 04:59, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
 * wasnt sure how far the archive should go - oh well what you did - thats like to the edge so to speak - the page was intriguing reflection of the last 4 years or more... SatuSuro 12:24, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

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Ownership
Thats personal opinion. I'm reporting you! You don't come on my page and have a go at me. When theres a ip adresss swearing at me. You come to me, then like a coward, tell me I'm taking over the page. - GPW

GPW
Hi there, don't know if you saw this, but it's a pretty gross personal attack against you. Anyway, I guess it's your call if you think the block should be extended, just letting you know. Jenks24 (talk) 04:49, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Looks like Hesperian has taken care of it and indef blocked him. Jenks24 (talk) 05:22, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I did see it and wasn't bothered much but thought it best to leave for another to assess and deal with as they saw fit. Thanks for the heads up and thanks to Hesperian.  –Moondyne 05:42, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Photo at Jessica Watson's page
Moondyne, apparently you have poor taste in personal photos. That Ddf photo that someone dug up out of the trash can is not fine. ...but if you insist, I defer to your obviously finer taste. I was actually trying to find a better photo to do justice to this fine young lady, and you seem to think that a mug shot is the best that we can do. Well, I beg to differ, and you should too, if you have any standards at all.

Please see the discussion at Talk:Jessica_Watson. You also seem to think that discussions can be ignored in favour of your own arbitrary reasons for reverting an edit. --Skol fir (talk) 08:47, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
 * It'd be nicer if was was smiling, but she's not. Too bad.  Perhaps that will inspire someone to take a free photo which can then replace the one we have.  In the meantime, my view is the current one helps a reader to see what she looks like which is better than none at all.  The "discussion" showed no indication you'd prefer nothing rather the current.  The only hint we have of your preference is  to which I respectfully disagree.  This is a classic WP:BRD case and hopefully we can find a consensus at the discussion page.  I meant you no bad will from my revert and if you took offence I apologise.  –Moondyne 09:05, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
 * If you read the entire discussion, there was at least one other person (if not two) who had also expressed their opinions. The idea of not having a picture at all was not mine, therefore, I did not offer it in the discussion. See this quote: "I've also been caught by it when trying to convince people to release photos for us, and I have argued at times that I'd rather see no photo than a bad one, but it is something that is basic to how we manage the licenses. - Bilby (talk) 02:10, 26 January 2011 (UTC)" -- Bilby does not equal Skol fir. Obviously, I agreed with his idea and acted on it. My bad! --Skol fir (talk) 02:14, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I did read what he wrote. He said "...and I have argued at times that I'd rather see no photo than a bad one." I didn't and still don't take that to mean he was expressing an opinion about this case specifically.  –Moondyne 02:43, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
 * You are perfectly right. I extrapolated from his "arguing at other times" to this particular case and then assumed that if this article had no picture for months before this one, why not go back to no picture, while we look for something that better reflects Jessica? I think she would agree with not putting a "mug shot" on her page, although I suppose that the subject has no say in her own biography, due to POV conflicts. --Skol fir (talk) 02:53, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
 * If it really bothers you, remove it - I don't care that much. If a consensus appears we can put it back again.  –Moondyne 04:58, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

WA Public Artworks
I don't know what you did with the formattting of the table but all the headingas are blacked out!. 06:18, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Oops!. I'll fix it when yr finished doing yr stuff.  –Moondyne 06:24, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Easy fix, replace "#def" with "#ddeeff". (Firefox/IE compatability issue)  –Moondyne 06:29, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Looking much better - am almost inspired to go out and take some photos if it weren't so damm hot. Then there's cyclones to contend with on the weekend. Stuff it might leave it on my to-do list. Dan arndt (talk) 07:24, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Seen this? http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDW60281.shtml –Moondyne 07:38, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, was going sailing on Saturday and given the cyclone is not due until Sunday morning should be good - plenty of wind. 09:05, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

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