User talk:Moondyne/Archive 4

Thanks
Thanks for adjusting my userboxes. Regards, iswatch19. iswatch19 talkpage 08:10(pm), 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Australian Olympic medalists in Swimming
Hello Moondyne. Sorry for taking so long. I was out of action from 25/7 to 1/8 due to illness, and since then, seem to have been designated to patrol a lot of Indian religious pages and a few India-Pakistan military things (even more after Anwar being blocked a month for socking Requests for checkuser/Case/Anwar saadat), and amusingly, seem to get even more messages from Indian editors than even Nichalp and Gurubrahma (lol) - so it seems I need to spend a lot of time trawling through about 10 guys' edits for testy dialogue and aggravating retoric on talk pages. So I haven't been to delete or write much, but personally that may seem a good excuse to default to the incumbent version, if for no other reason. Although I guess the Olympics are often associated with medal tallies, so maybe the medal ranking maybe more natural as well as my laziness. Thanks, Blnguyen | rant-line 04:21, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah, these things are unfortunate sometimes. It has basically dissipated now, so I got stuck into an expansion of Ricky Ponting which is explained on its talk page, as well as cleaning up Monty Panesar - he seems to generate a lot of humour. Blnguyen | rant-line 06:38, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I found some.Blnguyen | rant-line 05:30, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

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Performance Poetry
Should be out of where it is as a separate art - no-one deserves that relative space within an art like that, it's as though some little vegemite didnt know how to start a new art :( SatuSuro 03:27, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Maaf maaf saya lupa orang ini orang inggeris, belum mengerti semua kata kata tentang sastra australie tak semua omong omong sastra tinggi daripada orang keras dalam "pub". OK, I am about to cut it out - its disproportionate (waah kalau orang ini mengerti, inshallah) to the rest of the article, and not usually acceptable in most conventional academic circles as a legitimate form of "literature in the first place".salaam! SatuSuro 03:37, 9 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Sekali lagi, maaf maaf pak! Australian Literature (Performance Poetry) SatuSuro 03:46, 9 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Saya Setuju/ yep its a good read /kesalahan besar/ wrong place ! :( SatuSuro 03:49, 9 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Mudah mudahan, hari ini makin diam lebih diam, saya harus tutup / I can tell something's operating strange in one of the goretex's or should that be cortex, I'm out! (for the day) SatuSuro 03:54, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Im sure you really need that sort of stuff when you're doing mind blowing awb work? SatuSuro 08:53, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Brett Lee
Is it true that Lee bowled a 100.3 mph delivery in the 2003 WC ? Tintin (talk) 05:22, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Butting in, I think that is true. I'm sure Akhtar did once against England in the group stage and then Lee also. IIRC, the commentators made jokes about Nick Knight being on the receiving end of both of them. Blnguyen | rant-line 05:25, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I'd not heard it before, but, according to this it seems to be true. -- Moondyne 05:27, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

http://ind.cricinfo.com/db/ARCHIVE/WORLD_CUPS/WC2003/SCORECARDS/FINALS/AUS_SL_WC2003_ODI-SEMI1_18MAR2003_BBB-COMMS.html has it as 160.1 which is slightly under 100 (160.91 = 100 mph) and is slower than Thomson's best. A google for lee&atapattu&100.3 gets no hits. I guess we should change it to 160.1 Tintin (talk) 05:40, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Based on MOS, it probably should read "160.1 kph (99.5 mph)". 160.1 is the source (3.6 Lee to Atapattu, OUT: 160.1kph ball, straight and on the off stump does him in, played in a transfixed mode and ball got through) so it should go first. -- Moondyne 05:58, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Hmm. Not slower than Thomson, I think. Thomson's fastest measured delivery was 99.7 mph (160.1) which I somehow remembered as 160.7. Tintin (talk) 07:07, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
 * In the second para of the Lee article is a referenced statement that his fastest delivery was 160.8 kph (99.91 mph). -- Moondyne 07:37, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Horrie Miller
Do you have any info to start an art, or do i start a stub? Apologies for my effusive indo outburst yesterday btw SatuSuro 10:21, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Also in your great wisdom - do you think I should leave factoid and statoid alone? I feel a saturday night urge to put them both in afd as crap, but would appreicate your cricket (just remember what the late douglas adams did to cricket ...!! ) thoughts on this one! SatuSuro 14:39, 12 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your response. I still think theyre both fraudulent and unnecessary articles - even if the meaning is verifiable :) SatuSuro 04:07, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

DYK
I love a sunburnt country, very patriotic. Thanks for another gem of a DYK. Cheers --Samir  धर्म 23:55, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Amongst many other things
Looking at the Perth wetlands things in Lake Monger - I was thinking that the Swan Coastal Plain art which was I was trying to expand might "borrow" the lakes of Perth material - what do you think? (note I say nothing about cricket, wisdom, indonesian language, or --oids in the body of this message :) ) it would seem a more logical location, perhaps?  SatuSuro 01:18, 14 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your +ve response. I figured the material in Lake Monger that relates to the coastal plain could migrate.  Please keep a check if I seem to remove too much :)  SatuSuro 01:54, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Talk:Swan River Colony
Moondyne, Users Vcxlor and Hesperian are both unhappy about their silly argument remaining indefinitely on Talk:Swan River Colony ;). As an uninvolved party, would you have consider whether it is appropriate to archive the talk page to Talk:Swan River Colony/Archive? Hesperian 06:10, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I have created Talk:Swan River Colony/Archive 1 and move the discussion there as its now 12mths old and the dates could cause confussion to other editors. Gnangarra 06:25, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I think Gnangarra and mine paths may have crossed over and confusion has slipped in. Nveer mind its done.  Send my regards to the those oldtime editors if you ever see them around. -- Moondyne 06:27, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks guys. Hesperian 06:36, 14 August 2006 (UTC) ::Yup, thankyou gentlemen SatuSuro 09:02, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

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Coords
Cripes the example you gave seems to be a metricised coord with no minutes and seconds, I find it a bit challenging seeing that most of the coords I am getting from Higham, DLI Geographic Names cards, and Geosciences database are all the old stuff. Too many 0000'S for my liking :)

Even more disconcerting is the variation of coor stuff that includes labels inside the brackets giving locations spurious descriptions (I'll have to hunt - but I think Derwent Bridge, Tasmania is designated a type- town when its a 7 building locality ?!*&! )

Over to you for any comment. SatuSuro 06:14, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Smelly
Indeed! Well we dont die, we just smell that way (viz the Late Frank Zappa and Jazz) :) Problem is I dont know how to convert the old to the new - and I agree with Snot -maybe we need to put both versions on (sigh) SatuSuro 06:42, 15 August 2006 (UTC)


 * List of states by area has been changed - I dont know the correct measurements - it might need reverting again (Sigh)SatuSuro 08:44, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

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 * Thanks Fritz. I have no idea where I got that photo from.  Probably technically it's a copyvio in my blissful ignorance of early editing (Nov 2003).  It's not used so I've deleted it. -- Moondyne 23:51, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm back
After a few days off-line I'm back. I have resolved though to cut back on my wikitime (we'll see how long that lasts) ;-). Cheers everyone. -- Moondyne 23:47, 17 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Life's too short to have too much wiki time :) SatuSuro 00:44, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

User:Marudubshinki
has promised not to run bots without a bot flag, and asked to be unblocked. Hesperian 00:52, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm back / User:Marudubshinki
How's the cognitive dissonance per the previous two sections? On the one hand, you resolve to cut down your wiki-time. On the other hand, you're away for one hour, the shit hits the fan, and you missed out on the fun of being splattered with it. I imagine you're going through some serious mental conflict right now. This is a hard habit to kick. hesperian 03:06, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Tryal/l
Thanks for cleaning up the mess. I was at DLI during the week and got a good old topo of the montebello's so one day I'll try to expand the pitiable excuse of an art :) SatuSuro 14:49, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Sock puppet tag, re: Rhwawn
Doesn't the sockpuppet template usually go on the user page, and not the talk page? --maru  (talk)  contribs 00:22, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Peotry
Such alluring poetry, such an eligant abonimation, what an ephergy worthy only of a revert or political demonstration plackard. Only life as an admin can draw such dribble, SG will be pleased with the revert Gnangarra 11:49, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I've noticed that Gnangarra 12:09, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks Moondyne, and thanks for the laugh Gnangarra. Snottygobble 12:23, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

with DYK thats cool I've modified it bit more, I prefer using ironically to however it sound more dramatic for a DYK. Gnangarra

Graham/Garth McKenzie
Hi, Ian. Sorry for not replying sooner. I saw your message a few days ago but was just on my way out and then I forgot.

It's a borderline case, this one. All the books I've got call him Graham although David Frith does mention that he was nicknamed Garth. I think that really we should rely on primary sources and if they use what amounts to a pseudonym like Tiger Smith; or a diminutive like Plum Warner; or variant like Jack Hobbs, then we should use that and not the proper name. But if they use the proper name then it must follow that generations of readers have adopted the proper name too in their own usage and so I think a nickname should then be just that, but I certainly think it should be mentioned in the article that he had the nickname. For example, with Hornby, I've included both his known nicknames in the article.

All the best. --BlackJack | talk page 12:30, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

DYK
Thanks for the article Moondyne. Cheers -- Samir  धर्म 06:21, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Montebello Islands
Your tryall art has the navigators getting confused/ the dli geographic names cards have the confusion of islands created by incorrect identification of islands and places - do you think there is anything in that apart from incompetence? SatuSuro 08:24, 20 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Actually your entry in tryall explained things a bit better - the issue that an anonymous dola person of old brought up in the card index was the problems that some of the post tryall explorers had with recognising what they were encountering - and trying to guess what was what - they confused islands and headlands a bit. Until I get into the info at DLI its probably not worth exploring too much - it seems some people got things wrong - and somehow admiralty charts picked the mistakes up rather than checking them (just like current map makers make mistakes) :) SatuSuro 12:37, 20 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Gawd it must be the weekend, I answered on my own talk page :) I do have some that I can scan portions if you would like :) please let me know SatuSuro 13:07, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
 * If you want to email me off-wiki I could also drop the maps off on tuesday or thursday this week as long as youre not in mandurah or something :) SatuSuro 13:39, 20 August 2006 (UTC)


 * M y reading dutch is atrocious (!) and speaking zilch, but noticed this: - Tasman, Abel Janszoon, 1603?-1659. Title: De reizen van Abel Janszoon Tasman en Franchoys Jacobszoon Visscher ter nadere ontdekking van het Zuidland in 1642/3 en 1644 / uitgegeven door R. Posthumus Meyjes. Publisher: 's-Gravenhage : Nijhoff, 1919. 299 p. : ill., maps. Series: Werken uitgegeven door de Linschoten-Vereeniging ; 17  in national lib in canberra.  Of for the days I had on scholarship in Canberra to follow up that one! SatuSuro 01:44, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Merge discussion on Talk:Westfields in Australia
Moondyne, could you drop by on Talk:Westfields in Australia and repeat your earlier comment that the merge is a good idea but maybe the name needs a tweak? Thanks.Garrie 02:59, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Maru
Moondyne,

I have prepared an RfAr statement at User:Snottygobble/Drafts/RfAr, and advised Maru of my intention to bring it before the Arbitration Committee. If you have any comments about my statement, I'd be happy to hear them.

I feel it is proper that you be listed as an involved party. I won't insist on your inclusion, but Maru might.

If you want to prepare a statement, feel free to do so at User:Snottygobble/Drafts/RfAr; just be sure to restrict your editing to your own section. I have also set up an evidence page at User:Snottygobble/Drafts/Evidence, that you should feel free to edit. Snottygobble 01:27, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

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Peace and quiet
What with Margana and Marudubshinki, Wikipedia is not all that relaxing at the moment. Yesterday I wanted some peace and quiet, so I went over to Wikisource to post the title and contents page of Carolus Linnaeus the Younger's 1782 Supplementum Plantarum, thus giving me a place to post the section in which the genus Banksia was first published. Supplementum Plantarum was written entirely in Latin, so I ended up on the Latin Wikisource. The Latin Wikisource had 18 edits yesterday, 16 of which were mine. How's that for peace and quiet?! Snottygobble 02:03, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I discovered two websites, gallica and botanica, that have page scan images of many of the antique botany books. It was just a matter of keyboarding the text from the page scans. The hard bits were (1) figuring out what category to put it in (I ended up creating "Categoria:Botanica", which hopefully means Category:Botany); and (2) figuring out how to how to fill in the templates, e.g. " ". It was all good fun, and so far there hasn't been any blowback from people leaving screeds of dense Latin on my talk page demanding I justify my ridiculous edits. So far so good. Snottygobble 02:52, 23 August 2006 (UTC)


 * You wound me Snotty. :( You volunteered yourself for the RfAr thing, y'know, and it's not exactly relaxing on my end either. (Dunno about the Margana thing). --maru  (talk)  contribs 02:27, 23 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Maru, you wound us all up :( -- Moondyne 02:32, 23 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Yeah well, you... blast! Curse you and your pointed puns! --maru  (talk)  contribs 02:37, 23 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I didn't mean to imply that you are responsible for me being stressed out, Maru. Perhaps I should have said "What with... my decision to bring an RfAr against Marudubshinki...". That would be more accurate in expressing that it is my decision to bring an action against you that has me stressed, rather than you specifically. It is a tense and unpleasant situation for both of us; much more, I accept, for you than for me. I'm sorry to be making your time on Wikipedia unpleasant, and I really regret the fact that our lots have been cast as antagonists rather than friends. But I really feel that I have to pursue a decision on this; this has been going on too long and I won't accept another non-decision fueled by a reluctance to "be the bad guy". Snottygobble 02:44, 23 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I can only speak for myself when I say I get absolutely no pleasure in this at all. The only reason I came here was this. -- Moondyne 13:46, 23 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Gawd, the only place to be is in Midland at the DLI in the old card index area obviously! Anywhere else sounds a bit too difficult :(   SatuSuro 03:15, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

U:I/M
May I edit your evidence page? I was thinking of merging my evidence page into yours, keeping your structure and cutting out all my waffle, then killing my page off. Yours is far better organised and miles ahead wrt diffs. Snottygobble 12:57, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Convoluted
Following phone discussion, am trawling Bill Bunburys version of Zuytdorp, and he claims Brouwer was Jan? Also that the north west coast was known as Eendracht.:) I think we need a long lunch! at state ref library :) SatuSuro 14:00, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

BTW, the question...
 * I dont agree with this version of spelling the tryal here - http://www.muffley.net/pacific/dutch/ozland.htm
 * geoscience has one l
 * Green, Jeremy N., 1942- Australia's oldest wreck : the historical background and archaeological analysis of the wreck of the English East India Company's ship 'Trial', lost off the coast of Western Australia in 1622 Oxford : British Archaeological Reports, 1977. and is catalogued at the slwa website under tryal  :)
 * Author: Australia. Army. Royal Australian Survey Corps. Title: Australia 1:50 000 topographic survey. 1957 2,. Tryal Rocks [cartographic material] Subjects: Tryal Rocks (W.A.)--Maps, Topographic. Also Titled: Tryal Rocks - is how the NLA catalogue the army guys work
 * http://eied.deh.gov.au/nsd/public/search_results.cfm - and the national shipwreck database has trial :(

So you asked a question, and I dont like the average - Tryal - NLA cataloguers, Army surveyors, Geoscience: - Trial - Jeremy, DEH, Muffley - it sort of evens out :(  SatuSuro 14:17, 23 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Then these guys get http://www.sharkbay.org/world_heritage/page_34.htm the double ll :( SatuSuro 14:32, 23 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Then we get in gutenberg 'tryals shoals' im off! http://gutenberg.net.au/ausdisc/ausdisc1-07.html :{  SatuSuro 15:11, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Rolls Royce
A wonder if you could take a look at the RR entry it sems to be all over the place. It getting hard to navigate I think Rolls Royce needs to be moved to Rolls Royce disambig, but this is a bit drastic for me.

Hi Moondyne. Thanks for looking, My interest is in early Rolls Royce motor cars. The entry is now Rolls Royce should moved to and merged with Rolls-Royce (disambiguation) at the moment it like having two disambiguation pages the first of which fails to list Rolls-Royce Limited clearly.

Laas Gaal Image
How can I give the right licensing of the image if it is protected from established and un-established users, as the image and the article are on the main page I cannot give the right information, you are an adminstrator, re-upload the image with right copyright which is The copyright holder allows their work for commercial and/or educational purposes. Furthermore, the article and image are on the main page and if you don't upload a new file it would be a dissapointment as the article on Laas Gaa'l needs an image for the readers to comprehend. I not like images myself or upload them as they are very confusing I just thought if I upload these images it may give the Somaliland articles a bit more Vibrance. Plus the images that you said are from websites that I copyrighted from are wrong because they were released into Public Domain if you check carefully. Trust me, I am not persuading to remove the Violation Template, I am just saying that if you remove the images without the re-uploading with right copyright, then the Somaliland articles would become less interesting for the world to read. Like the famous saying:

Images worth a 1000 words

Abdullah Geelah 14:14, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Mistake
Deliberate? Mistaken? Garden confused with Carnac? Vandal? Enough to want to go to sleep! :) SatuSuro 14:51, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Hey I make a mistake too! Obviously bed time> I cant make head or tail of the sydney edit SatuSuro 14:56, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Next problem is he has carnac as a convict location, I cant remember seeing refs on that, that sounds like rottnest ! SatuSuro 02:49, 27 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Talking to my friend henrietta (ie looking up slwa) she says Marion Hercock's article in Early Days in 96 might have some clues ;) SatuSuro 07:09, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Requests for arbitration/Marudubshinki
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Laas Gaal Image
Hi I@an, Do you know all the images that you put a copyright violation template well atcullay I got from that tourism website. if you check on the Photo Gallery, also I didn't get the Laas Gaal from the BBC Website because they dont allow pictures taken from that website you can not save it on your file if try to, I didn't want to tell you all this because I thought I would into further trouble, I do apologise for all the trouble I caused. Furthermore, Some unanimous users have been putting Copyright Violation Templates on the Laas Gaa'l article saying that I copied all the information from the BBC Website, I wrote all the information from my own knowledge and I used only one source from the website, I removed the template know also there have been some users who have vandalised the Cuisine of Somaliland page as well. It looks like every page I create someone vandalises. One of them wrote a racist comment on the article. Can you protect the two pages please so that only established users and adminstrators can edit it. Abdullah Geelah 14:34, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

If youre on @ 1.20
I think we have a problem at the Convention centre SatuSuro 05:21, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Looks like Longhair has the problem solved SatuSuro 05:36, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

BTW when an external thing uses Freo during the war - would you put it in a freo, wa history, or 2ww link - USS Sturgeon (SS-187) - curious what you would do if you came across it.SatuSuro 05:49, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Images
Thanks for helping Abdullah Geelah learn about the ins and outs of image licensing! I'm impressed by your patient explanations. I've noticed that he's removed copyvio tags from two images I tagged - Image:Haano.jpg and Image:Lahooh.jpg. I found sources for both of these, and they don't support the licenses that he has claimed for them. Details are at (big surprise) Copyright problems/2006 August 26/Images. Could I ask you to explain this to him? I'm quite sure that you can do it in a much more friendly way than I could. Thanks, FreplySpang 12:43, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Looks good, thanks! And yes, I know what you mean... I think your deck had a couple more of those cards than mine. ;-) FreplySpang 14:36, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Image:Lahooh.jpg
I have checked the website in a different category and it said This photo is public look if you dont believe me Abdullah Geelah 15:35, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Image:Lahooh.jpg and Image:Haano.jpg
Then can you just upload those two pics please with the right copyright. As soon as you do that I will stop uploading pics. Abdullah Geelah 15:44, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

OK!! I understand I will delete the imagesa and never upload another Image again! Abdullah Geelah 15:50, 28 August 2006 (UTC)


 * The PC i'm using doesn't work probably so I do apologise fro the spelling errors. I meant by deleting the images by deleting the removing them from the articles they are on. Abdullah Geelah 16:07, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Edit History
Can you restore my edit history on my userpage page please. Abdullah Geelah 17:23, 28 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Because if he told about the personal information on my userpage I would deleted them myself and my edit history would have been intact now that my userpage has no personal information can you at least restore my userpage because when he deleted it my edit count went from 2000 to 1000 and now I would like to reach my 2000th edit on Wikipedia so please at least restore my userpage. I would not write anymore Personal Information on my userpage. Also, there have been an anonymous user putting copy violation tags on the Laas Gaa'l Image (which you uploaded with the right copyright) and the Laas Gaa'l article which 98% is genuine and I only used two sources from the World66 website but the rest is genuine. he keeps putting tags on them and an adminstrator and I keep taking it off and telling him that the Wikipedia allows you to use sources from other websites. Can you speak to him. Please Abdullah Geelah 11:25, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

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Convictism in Western Australia
Hi saw this article nominated for GA, I would fail it purely for the lack of a lead, but then I'm not reviewing this one yet just passed by with a quick five minutes to spare. Gnangarra 17:24, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

My watchlist
My watchlist had grown to a ridiculous size and became unmanageable. I've just deleted it entirely and will rebuild it manually over time. Therefore, please don't assume that I will see all edits. Cheers everyone. -- Moondyne 23:47, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Make sure you check out todays picture of the day!! SatuSuro 07:56, 30 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I have taken the liberty of reverting an edit in your userspace that I assume you didn't see, per above. Snottygobble 00:20, 31 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Welcome; I thought you might be happy to delete it. I see you've seen the light and changed your sig to point directly to your talk page. Good one; 99% of people who clicked on your sig would be looking to talk to you anyway. And as an added bonus, your user page's whatlinkshere will now start to become a list of where people are talking about you, rather than where you've been talking. Snottygobble 01:06, 31 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I check every now and then to see if I'm being talked about anywhere unexpected. It's how I found out that Jimididit was smearing me left right and centre, and it gave me early warning when Margana went to AMA with a view to RFCing me. Snottygobble 01:20, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Re: AFL
Nice. The only thing wrong with it is you made it with PowerPoint ;-) Snottygobble 01:54, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Msps
I'm going to freo today - do you want an admiralty chart of what we were looking at last week? SatuSuro 02:02, 31 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Considering how th rain woke me up last night I'll be in a daze most of the way anyways - that might help SatuSuro 02:08, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

DYK
DYK! Blnguyen expanded it quite nicely. Cheers -- Samir  धर्म 01:00, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I picked up the "A-Z of Australian cricketers" for 20c yesterday from the cancelled books of my library. That should increase productivity for the historic cricketers, as the only way to do those bios is to use cricinfo statsguru to make an chronological account. I'll look at that attachment soon I hope. I also had to tweak the template as Samir's economisation removed the fact that he was the youngest Australian (rather vain of me, as we have protocol that you don't put your own stuff on the main page). I was also amazed that Brian Booth from the previous shift was un-expanded during the waiting period and then promoted anyway and left in the original stub state.....Blnguyen | rant-line 03:13, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Copyediting Benaud
Sure. I don't need an invitation for such things :-) Tintin (talk) 16:07, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

>> He ended his Test career 12 years later in Sydney with statistics of 248 wickets (the Test record at that time) at 27.03 and 2,201 runs at 24.45.

This line is out of place. "12 years later" is not in the right context.

>> Benaud's book My Spin on Cricket was published in 2005.

He has written a few more books. I don't know which of these are famous and which are not. Tintin (talk) 06:11, 4 September 2006 (UTC)


 * According to LR is Richie's father. Tintin (talk) 06:45, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

JPD's RfA
Thanks, Moondyne, for your support at my RfA, which finished with a tally of 94/1/0. I hope I live up to the confidence you have shown in me and continue to keep a level head as an administrator.

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Why?
I sort've understand why you deleted Usernames That Would've Made The Blocked Users With Bizarre Usernames List. After all, it was just a "fun" page that doesn't necessarily enhance one's intellect. But did you at least read my rationale for keeping it? CreativeOne 23:18, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Self reversion on talk page
I noticed you reverted on the workshop talk page. Why'd you do that? Your post was a valid question. So far as I know, it's totally legitimate to do semi-automated edits, but apparently disagreement is rife as you point out. For obvious reasons clarity on this issue is important to me. --maru  (talk)  contribs 01:07, 7 September 2006 (UTC)


 * I don't think it's off-topic, but very relevant. I'd appreciate its inclusion. --maru  (talk)  contribs 01:17, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Crempog
I don't understand why this article is still here. It's nothing! It's got no context. Okay, it's a food dish. It's important because...? It's notable why? One line and a link to a recipe does not make an article. All in all the article has no context so the tag should be returned. I'm tempted to do an Afd and hope that gets further than the Speedy that wasn't so speedy. - Bladeswin | Talk to me | 03:17, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

User:MatthewFenton
Thank you for your suggestions and comments. They will be taken into heavy consideration. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 10:21, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Bindi Irwin
You submitted an AFD and suggested it be redirected. You don't need AFD for such redirects. Go ahead, be bold and do redirects of very young children to their parents yourself. - Mgm|(talk) 10:32, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

What's this about a number of other editors agreeing to a redirect? Gazpacho 00:04, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

The Scheme
Has been changed, I have left a comment on the talk page of the changer, and the new titled article SatuSuro 10:57, 7 September 2006 (UTC) Thanks for that SatuSuro 14:13, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Happy Birthday!
I wish you a very happy birth day. --Bhadani 15:32, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Hope you had a great day!! -- Underneath-it-All 19:30, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Happy birthday Ian - late again as always. Blnguyen | BLabberiNg 01:01, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

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my Ian Constable entry
Hi Ian, I did an entry on Professor Ian Constable today - but I can't figure out why the first letter of his surname won't show as a capital. Can you advise me where I'm going wrong? Davidcohen 06:48, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Long table
Its a pretty long table (over 500 cells) - and it comes out looking pretty mangled using the online tool, but thanks for the info, it should otherwise be useful.--Peta 01:51, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Table question
Thanks for the response. I pulled the border-left out of the leftmost cells and up to the table level, since the left border of the leftmost cells is also the left border of the table. Also used "border-collapse:collapse" to join the border segments into contiguous lines.

I also discovered that the problem is solved in HTML / CSS by the use of  / "{col: }". And Table (HTML) says "Wiki table doesn't support colgroup, col, thead, tfoot, tbody tags yet (June, 2006). So all appropriate individual cell, individually needs to have the border width CSS properties and values, for widening the cell borders for data grouping, and by doing so, code becomes longer, for a table with more items." Leaving aside the fact that this is poorly written and barely relevant to the article, it tells us that we're not going to get much better than what we've come up with.

Snottygobble 02:12, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Reporting for Duty
By your request. yale Yale s 03:20, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

WatchlistBot
The way the bot is set up right now, I can easily get all articles in tagged categories. Would you mind if I created a tag, tagged the categories, and then generated the list from that? It wouldn't be hard to modify it to work without tagging, but I'd have to think about it a little bit, and might not get to it as soon. Ingrid 18:24, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for help on horse article
Thanks for removing the spam links I didn't have the time to tweak when I was reverting the rest of the mess someone made of the horse article. (And why can't we get semi-protection on that article, it is constantly being vandalized!) While you are on spam patrol, can you also check the article American Paint Horse and make a determination if the link Lmocr keeps adding back in is a link farm or an appropriate reference? ( its http://www.dmoz.org/Sports/Equestrian/Breeds/Paint linking to Open Directory Project: Paint Horses) I think it's just a link to more links, and removed it once, but I don't want to get into an editing war over it. If .dmoz links (or yahoo links, or whatever) are appropriate in Wikipedia, I won't make a federal case out of it, but figured someone with more experience than I should look at it. And--remove it if needed--with appropriate admin type comment to those who need to know! Montanabw 19:02, 15 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Curious...saw you cut all external links on that page. Wiki guidelines suggest some form of "External Links" section can be appropriate.  What's your take (or can you direct to policy page) on what External Links are appropriate and which are not?   My example:  Would a link to the official horse breed registry in a breed article be appropriate for an external link for people who wanted to learn more?  Montanabw 01:01, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

My apologies
I was under the assumption that since the article had been rated as mid-importance on the importance scale there was no reason to delete it. Klosterdev 12:55, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

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G'day
Flinders Bay had whaling - the beach where for a while the boats left from is just north of the old jetty site - not sure what the dates were there though or what the ref would be. Local naming of things has the beach where the whale watching boats leaving from was known as "the whaling". And of course tthe whale rescuing of the 1980s and 1990s happened justnorth of this - ie between the Flinders Bay jetty site and the mouth of the blackwood river.

KP
Thanks for the link, I had read the article before but was thinking/starting to expand KP into something useful and was wondering if the clock considered part of KP or not, but its lead says it is so work into the article. Gnangarra 23:42, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
 * KP I had a push and a poke around added some more stuff, still needs more work on Bali memorial and facilities including tennis club and play grounds. The resevior do you know anything the=at would make it worth a mention. Gnangarra 06:01, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Whaling in Western Australia
Nice article. Your DYK nom says 1979 the article says 1978, could you clarify please. --Peta 02:42, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

RfA thanks
Hey Moondyne, thank you for supporting my recent RfA. It finished with an amazing final tally of 160/4/1. I really appreciate your support. It was wonderful to have so much support from so many fantastic Australian administrators and editors. Thankyou. :) Cheers, Sarah Ewart (Talk) 11:22, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks Ian! And in the words of Enochlau "Go Aussie Cabal!" :D Sarah Ewart (Talk) 11:38, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Hep
Was going to suggest Hep's art in Early Days - and you found it! looks good as an art - but there are lots more to it than that. The big long distance yank whalers used to visit Flinders v early on as well SatuSuro 22:51, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

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Hep
Was still alive and kicking in RWAHS in the early 80's - and still doing research and work on stuff - yes I knew him. As for adding, the shed gets filled tommorrow! um, err. SatuSuro 11:47, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Your comments on my talk page
1. What is the purpose of a talk page? 2. Who is to say what is a legitimate comment? 3. If people really want to see previous comments can't they just look in the history? Cochese8 16:44, 26 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Could you please answer my questions? Thanks Cochese8 01:12, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Whaling in Western Australia
Congrats on the Whaling in WA Article a well researched and interesing read. Inspiring. Thanks.Ghostieguide 05:51, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Seen this?
From WP:USERNAME:
 * E-mail addresses: As of September 26, 2006, the Mediawiki software has been changed so the users may no longer register usernames with "@" in them. Previously, these usernames were discouraged. Preventing the usage of @ stops editors from receiving spam, reduces work for administrators and prevents hurt feelings due to being blocked, which may have led editors to simply leave in the past. Existing usernames with the sign are not blocked, but editors should be encouraged to change their names as the sign interferes with some Mediawiki functions.

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 * Sorry to here that. Re: issues with new name, me too. Why didn't I realise that people would call me "snotty"? Snottygobble 23:19, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Hindsight is always 20-20, isn't it? Snottygobble 08:29, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

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mistype
Mis-type indeed, thanks for telling me. Not exactly sure how I did that though. Anyways, is fixed now. Pascal.Tesson 06:43, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

stuff to move to Wendy Northcutt from Darwin Awards
Hi, thanks for your encouragement to be bold, however would you mind doing the honors instead? I'm too stressed right now from real life to learn any new editing tools.Sorry. Rich 06:38, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Hi Moondyne, thanks for moving the stuff. I've restored the interview to Wendy Northcutt and added some other stuff to try to give a rounded picture of her. hope u like it. Regards,Rich 03:10, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Fiona Wood
I was just doing some research in here when I stumbled on the article on Fiona Wood and discovered a few obvious bits of vandalism, which I then removed. Being a Yank, I didn't know how controversial a figure Ms. Wood might be in her homeland, so I took a look at the page's history to see if vandalism was a common problem for her page and I noted your name under a "revert vandalism" from last year. Problem fixed - just a shame it happens at all out here. TyroCat 07:57, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

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Joe
Put my 2 cents worth at the other talk page. I seem to have a software issue, could you possibly remove my wiki break notes on my tslk and user please? I think I need to follow up the java issue that emerged two weeks ago! Thanks SatuSuro 01:15, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Sorry!
Hi how are you? Regarding your comment at WP:ER, I realized maybe it is really annoying. So, sorry about that, I’ll try to stop :D Thanks for pointing that out -- I   mo   eng  02:50, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
 * But please read my answer first. Cheers -- I   mo   eng  02:51, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Leeks
thanks for the message. A bit of banter from the comic book Preacher on having met Dylan Thomas:
 * ... What was he like?
 * Have you met a welshman?
 * No.
 * Have you eaten a leek?
 * Yeh.
 * Same thing!

Maybe also N.S.Welshman. I suppose I will get chastised for this. And quite rightly too!! --Fred.e 06:08, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Just checked out your blind mowing user page and you must be the man for the job. George Temple-Poole deserves an article. And his lady friend. --Fred.e 07:57, 12 October 2006 (UTC) oops!
 * now that you mention it, from memory it is Poole. In fact I think Poole Ave in Kings park bears his name. He either adopted the affectation or dropped it, will find out.  Believe he also planted the delightful but alien Corymbia citriodora.  He used gum leaves as calling cards and used indig. imagery in his designs.  --Fred.e 07:57, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Greetings fellow socks (sic) apologies for butting in but the LISWA web site had:

Author         Oldham, Ray. Title 	       George Temple-Poole : colonial architect of the golden years, 1885-1897. Published 	1980. Subject 	Architects -- Western Australia -- Biography. Poole, George Temple, 1856-1934. Found in 	Early days (1970), Vol. 8, pt. 4 (1980), p. 127-128, 994.1 EAR .b11475407.

Which if you look carefully - Ray Oldham has used the hyphen, but the LISWA catalogue does not! I think there is a forest reserve with the name as well? If we end up with spoonerisms and or milliganisms as part of our talk pages, no one will understand thank god! SatuSuro 10:25, 12 October 2006 (UTC)


 * correction - apologies I had been thinking of the other double barrel poole - lane-poole re forest reserve, oops! SatuSuro 03:02, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

There is a later biography which I'll read before starting the article. --Fred.e 23:10, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Loveingsydney
I noticed you blocked Loveingsydney after he made a couple of pretty obvious sockpuppet edits. I just wanted to let you know about some other edits made by (someone who I allege is) the same person - I made an evidence page here and there appears to have been nothing done with the case. It was simply archived by Kilo-Lima with no further discussion and no reply to my queries.

Basically there are a whole set of IP's on the 60.225.*.* space that have similar edits, as well as a few usernames. This IP space also was the source of some of the licinius and nswelshman puppets. Their editing styles are all similar, with hypersensitivity to any mention of football that refers to soccer football rather than rugby league, aggressive edit summaries, plentiful references to 'trolls' and an inability to spell 'common'.

any tips on how to deal with it? Dibo | Talk | Contribs 02:46, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
 * cheers, i hate to look like a stalker but this 'complex' as he/she/it is apparently now known is annoying the hell out of me - a constant pattern of edit warring and abuse, and because it's barely ever the same username twice it makes vandal warnings and such near impossible to use with any effect. Dibo | Talk | Contribs 04:02, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Moondyne
I'm curious; what made you think Moondyne was a sock of Licinius? I hope he's not; that would be a waste of an outstanding username. Snottygobble 04:20, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Typo in Corymbia calophylla
Thanks for the correction, Moondyne. Does this thing have a spell checker? Cya. Callophylla 07:00, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Rail Map
A bit of hard work, and co-operation, I can think of other editors who have put stuff up for the rail articles of wa - and I suspect we can do the same. Just careful time and cooperation is needed! (and patience) SatuSuro 10:05, 13 October 2006 (UTC)


 * There are amongst my arts - a ref to an "australian rail routes" text, and geoff highams where was that? both have the info we need - and as for the timber lines, I reckon that adrian gunzburg's timber line book and its map needs a separate map - as well the timber lines (woodlines) in the goldfields probably a separate one as well . hope that gives you an idea that its all there SatuSuro 13:58, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Moondyne
FYI: Snottygobble 12:00, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
 * 1) Bureaucrats' noticeboard
 * 2)


 * Best of luck with the new one - trust it works well for you! SatuSuro 13:32, 15 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for putting your request through again. I now have renamed you as User:Moondyne. You should now move your userpages to the new name. Warofdreams talk 18:13, 15 October 2006 (UTC)


 * I suppose when your not editing the residents of the Toodyay region will again need to hide their horses. Gnangarra 00:44, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Narrows Photo
Excellent! hope you got more like this - I was rushing past the Southern Spur diesels on Mount Henry bridge today and had my camera in the car - but I simply kept going! Drat SatuSuro 12:21, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh well I will try to dig up some gems to accompany - I was doing photos of plaques at Pumping Station 1 Mundaring Weir this morning - they still havent found anything at all about that missing walker yet - when I was speaking to the water authority ranger - not a thing SatuSuro 12:45, 17 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Forrest Place - for a very long time there was a fruit and vege on the corner of FP and wellington street. Yes if you see gnangs linked photo for Fp in 1987 - the padbury bdgs are on the right of the disapearing boans SatuSuro 12:54, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Kangaroo Paw
Thanks its definately better than the original I uploaded. Gnangarra 13:13, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

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EL's in Cascading Style Sheets
Excellent, well done and thanks! --AbsolutDan (talk) 23:36, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

RE: Barnstar
Hey that's excellent! Thanks much, I really appreciate it (along with your kind words). If you ever need a hand (especially with cleanup-related work) do let me know. Cheers! --AbsolutDan (talk) 03:51, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Requests for arbitration/Marudubshinki
This case is now closed and the results have been published at the link above.

is desysopped. Marudubshinki may not use a bot. Should Marudubshinki use a bot he may be blocked for an appropriate period of time. All blocks to be logged at Requests_for_arbitration/Marudubshinki.

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Reply to EL Cleanup
I had added a link to cssmate which is a free online CSS editor. It is intended to give people an easy and instant practical experience with CSS. Maybe you'll call me the first howling site owner but I partially disagree with your statement “there's no justification for lists of links to tutorials and tools in an encyclopedia”. I use an encyclopedia for a brief introduction to the topic and use the references and external links to acquire more detailed information. So I do expect links to tutorials and - especially in case of web technologies – to online tools where applicable. Compared to thousands of matches for “css tutorial” and “css tool” I get in search engines 60 commented links appear of value to me. As the “External links” section is the very last it doesn’t matter to much how long it is. As long as the content of the sites matches the description people can decide themselves to use them.

What do you think?

SESchreiber 21:01, 22 October 2006 (GMT)


 * FYI this question was also posted to Talk:Cascading Style Sheets - I have posted a response there. --AbsolutDan (talk) 21:42, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank you!
Thanks for the barnstar! It's nice to be recognised. &mdash; Saxifrage ✎ 05:45, 23 October 2006 (UTC)