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2019


Die Zeit, die Tag und Jahre macht

Happy 2019 -

begin it with music and memories

Thank you for your translations! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:59, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Please check out "Happy" once more, for a smile, and sharing (a Nobel Peace Prize), and resolutions. I wanted that for 1 January, but then wasn't sad about having our music pictured instead. Not too late for resolutions, New Year or not. DYK that he probably kept me on Wikipedia, back in 2012? By the line (which brought him to my attention, and earned the first precious in br'erly style) that I added to my editnotice, in fond memory? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:08, 12 January 2019 (UTC)


 * , Raymond Arritt certainly had a big smile, and I like his formulation “.002 of a Nobel prize”. (One needs to bear in mind that one of the many mistakes of the conjurer Michael E. Mann is that he claimed to be a Nobel prize winner...)
 * I have been away from DYK for several months but have returned in a gentle way in the past few days. It seems quieter than it was. Moonraker (talk) 16:10, 12 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Thank you, and welcome back to DYK. The Rambling Man runs his ERRORS now, which makes DYK seem quiet ;) - I have a new thing, recent deaths, to make articles such as Theo Adam look less awful (half-way through copyediting, then come refs). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:19, 12 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Seht, hier ist Tinte, Feder, Papier is a good title. It sounds as if it might come from an old play. Moonraker (talk) 16:39, 12 January 2019 (UTC)


 * I bet it's from an opera. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:42, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Indeed, Meistersinger, Sachs saying so. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:44, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/151 North Franklin
Hello. At this time, I cannot recommend 151 North Franklin until the issues are addressed with the citation and hook. I already messaged the user once when I first commented. The user is not seriously ill as one can look at their contributions, but a lack of neglect to the article they created. FunksBrother (talk) 18:24, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

The mysterious Colonel Gibert
Actually he seems to have been a big figure in cycling circles, in 1894 heading this list in the Figaro: "colonel Gibert, le marquis de Barrai, le comte Jacques de Bryas,MM. ,l1'ournier:Sarlovèze, André Pastré, Paul Le Roux, lecomte Foulques de Maille, le comte O'Gorroan, le comte 'Alexandre de Boiàé,,elin,ont, eu l'idée de fonder un Cercle vélocipédique." Whether he is the same as the "Doctor Gibert", Franco-Swiss Dreyfusard with some military experience, I can't work out. Here, a "colonel Gibert" has a finger in a medical pie. Johnbod (talk) 18:14, 17 January 2019 (UTC)


 * I’ll bet he’s the first of those and may also be the last, but I wonder whether Franco-Swiss Dreyfusards would be frequenting the Jockey Club. I guess the only reliable alignment of the names is in the vertical, in which case Gibert is the whiskery old gent in a boater who looks about eighty. (The others in the Cercle vélocipédique no doubt include O’Gorman and Boisgelin.)
 * I found this delightful fictional Gibert... “Le colonel Gibert, avec lassitude, dégrafa le papier de son trombone et le tendit à Chamars. « Messieurs, dit-il, vous avez dix minutes pour apprendre votre leçon. » Moonraker (talk) 00:44, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Jude the Obscure (serial)
Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Alex Marshall (actor and director)
Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Jean Baptiste Guth
~  ONUnicorn (Talk&#124;Contribs) problem solving 00:01, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Alfred Clayton Cole
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 12:01, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

golden dawn
can you please help my with my most recent edit 83.185.82.92 (talk) 15:12, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Jude Akuwudike
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:01, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

Translation April
Haven't had a German old text for idiomatic translation for a while, but here it comes, a poem on the title page of a Schütz composition (SWV 478, long title): "Lebstu der Weltt, so bistu todt/ und kränckst Christum mit schmertzen / Stirbst' aber in seinen Wunden roth / So lebt er in deim Hertzen." Lebstu = lebst du, bistu = bist du, as you probably know. Once I'm here, the full title: "Die Sieben Worte unsers lieben Erlösers u. Seeligmachers Jesu Christi, so er am Stamm des Hl. Kreuzes gesprochen", especially "Seeligmacher" and "Stamm des Kreuzes". Thank you already! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:38, 4 April 2019 (UTC)


 * it's tricky, because to my ear it sounds like slightly unnatural German forced for a rhyming pattern, but I do not have an ear for 17th century idiom. How about this?

""Lovest thou the World, then art thou dead, and the Lord must bear the Hurt / But dost thou die red in his Wounds, Then he liveth in thy Heart.""
 * It isn't exact, but I think it catches the meaning and flavour. I believe the usual translation for Erlöser und Seeligmacher is Saviour and Redeemer, it isn't the best translation of Seeligmacher, but it is at least customary and sounds natural in English. For Stamm des Kreuzes, that sounds like an odd use of Stamm, but there was a concept from the 16th century on of "the Living Cross"... does that word Stamm have an archaic meaning which is closer to our stem? In English the stem is the hard or woody part of the plant *above* the ground before you get to the upper plant. So would "Stem of the Holy Cross" give the rough meaning? Both words suggest that the Cross is alive and not dead, but if you hear Stamm as root then I may need to think again. Moonraker (talk) 01:19, 5 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Learning. learning, thank you. I used Saviour but hoped the Olde English had something for blessed-maker ;) - In the closing movement of Schütz' Matthew Passion, "an dem Stamm des Kreuzes" is the phrase repeated most often, more than "für uns den bittern Tod". Anything English would say similar works? Otherwise "stem" is fine just a little weak. Excellent explanations. Flowers to follow after RL. Just learned (my talk) that Ruth-Margret Pütz died, another great singer ... and not even her article mentions her death yet. Such a sad job to perhaps do that. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:29, 5 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Gerda, it may be that English did once have a word for blessed-maker, but if it did I am afraid it is locked up in the darkest deepest depths of the Oxford English Dictionary and has not had a day out for quite a while. We could perhaps make up the word Benedictor, how would "Saviour and Benedictor" be? It sounds plausible to me. Moonraker (talk) 16:53, 5 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the language archeology but I guess I'll stay with Redeemer and Saviour, saying and making being very different things. Benedictus! --


 * My thought Gerda was that if the benedictus is the blessed then the benedictor is the blesser. It is not quite getting us to blessed-maker. Moonraker (talk) 17:35, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

Incomplete DYK nomination
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 * Please put that back to noms if the one who pulled failed to do it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:34, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Alan Stewart Orr
Materialscientist (talk) 04:32, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Reginald Dyer
Hi - Very many thanks for the barnstar! Best wishes, Dormskirk (talk) 16:11, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

Eugene De Rosa
My pleasure! Thank you for all the additions (and corrections) as well! Phaeton23 (talk) 11:48, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Harry B. Neilson
— Maile (talk) 00:01, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Congratulations on the DYK, and I'm glad this one worked out in the end. Better late than never! &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 08:16, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
 * , that's civil of you. The reply of someone else might be more like this... Moonraker (talk) 08:28, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Midleton College
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Donald Wright
Donald is buried in Coulston churchyard. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7D:502D:3B00:B5A2:84A0:5A1A:4725 (talk) 06:10, 28 April 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Athelstan Rendall (pilot)
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

DYK nomination of John Rigby (mathematician)
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Re: Constantine II of Greece
Your right I probably should have discussed it, but I didn’t delete the info box, I moved it to the main top info box about his political positions since most Olympic medalist pages have their medal info boxes on the top of their page. TheAbidingDude (talk) 14:37, 17 May 2019

DYK for Midleton College
— Maile (talk) 00:03, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

Ways to improve Alex Phillips (politician)
Hello, Moonraker,

Thanks for creating Alex Phillips (politician)! I edit here too, under the username Eagleash and it's nice to meet you :-)

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Eagleash (talk) 21:50, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
 * , more relevant than WP:NPOL is WP:N, as politicians are not inherently *less* notable than all others. In any event, you may like to review your tag in the morning, as WP:NPOL will then cut in. Moonraker (talk) 22:30, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
 * The result has just been broadcast. Both Phillips women seem to have succeeded in voting for Christmas.:) Please feel free to update the page accordingly. Eagleash (talk) 23:26, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

Alexandra Phillips (Brexit politician)
Please restore. You've completely messed it up. The talk page is Talk:Alexandra Lesley Phillips, while the article is Alexandra Phillips (Brexit politician) Gaia Octavia Agrippa Talk 16:53, 27 May 2019 (UTC)


 * There was no problem here. Consensus was needed. Moonraker (talk) 16:55, 27 May 2019 (UTC)


 * And now the article is at Alexandra L. Phillips! Stop. There needs to be a discussion about this. Not just you doing multiple moves which has messed it up. Alexandra Lesley Phillips redirects to Alexandra Phillips (politician) which redirects to Alexandra Phillips. What are you doing? Gaia Octavia Agrippa Talk 16:58, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
 * A discussion was started and short-circuited by another user. Moonraker (talk) 17:00, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I have commented on the articles talk page. Gaia Octavia Agrippa Talk 17:05, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

DYK nomination of No Place to Go (2000 film)
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Addington Palace - Barlow Trecothick
Hi,

I work for Addington Palace, the former residence of Barlow Trecothick. I wanted to write an article on him, as his import in the history of this Palladian Mansion is paramount.

Please contact me at Jamie.lyons@addington-palace.co.u if you would be happy to discuss the history of Barlow.

Kind Regards,

213.105.49.98 (talk) 18:30, 30 May 2019 (UTC)Jamie Lyons


 * Jamie Lyons, I do not wish to have private emails with you about this article or any other. If there is something to discuss, I suggest the article's talk page. Regards, Moonraker (talk) 10:31, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Incomplete DYK nomination
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DYK for Barlow Trecothick
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

Citation templates
Hi Moonraker! Why have you removed the various citation templates from Alexandra Phillips (Brexit Party politician) and replaced them with simply writing out the reference between ? Articles are supposed to maintain the same reference formatting, which in this case would be citation templates. Gaia Octavia Agrippa Talk 23:54, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Strike the above, I see that you were in fact reverting. Why is that preferable to templates? Gaia Octavia Agrippa Talk 23:56, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
 * PS, Alexandra Phillips (Green politician) needs expanding to qualify as a DYK. Its currently only 1270 characters. Gaia Octavia Agrippa Talk 23:59, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes, I am working on them. Moonraker (talk) 00:02, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

DYK for James Bruce Lockhart
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Wilfrid Oldaker
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Arthur Buxton
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Geoffrey Gillam
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

DYK for William Davies (master mariner)
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:03, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

DYK nomination of John Rigby (mathematician)
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DYK for No Place to Go (2000 film)
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

DYK for John Rigby (mathematician)
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

image
Hi noticing you created the Richmond Sixteen article, I was wondering if this image would be suitable to add to the article. I presume, these are 15 of the Frenchmen from Harwich in 1916, with  Alfred Martlew missing (!) and the one who made the photograph not depicted. Thank you for your time. Lotje (talk) 04:16, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Hello, . There were seventeen "Harwich Frenchmen", and they were a different group, mentioned in the Richmond Sixteen article. That picture of them doesn't seem to be properly licenced. The Wikipedia upload (not Wikimedia) doesn't say who the creator was, but it also claims it's someone who has been dead for seventy years, which I imagine is vague guess work and may well be wrong. By all means add it, it's probably best in the "France and imprisonment" section, but I shan't be surprised if it gets deleted. A Wikipedia "fair use" justification might perhaps be put together for an article on the Harwich Frenchmen, but it wouldn't hold water for another article. Moonraker (talk) 23:49, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you I'll add the image and see what happens next :-) Lotje (talk) 05:28, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

DYK for McCollom Institute
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:01, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Whoa!
You just blew my mind. Is it possible that you do not know that Refs begin with last name first? BTW, good job on Augarde, generally. -- Ssilvers (talk) 23:27, 23 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Hello, I believe we have had this conversation before. There are several different citation styles, all within Wikipedia policy, and this is the one I prefer, quite commonly used in the arts in Britain and elsewhere. Most American users like their styles, but even there there are different styles used. Wikipedia does not try to impose uniformity, and we have a policy that no one should change a consistent citation style. Moonraker (talk) 23:33, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
 * While you're here, I can't trace Shell Out (1915). Any ideas? Moonraker (talk) 23:35, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Not to worry, here it is. Moonraker (talk) 23:37, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

See every single example given in the MOS, for example at WP:REFB. I don't remember any other editor, in my 13 years and well over 100,000 edits on Wikipedia, ever asserting such a thing. Just for purposes of alphabetizing the list of books at the bottom, last name first is by far the more sensible arrangement. Anyhow, here is something more about Shell Out. It was a revue, rather than a book musical. -- Ssilvers (talk) 23:43, 23 June 2019 (UTC)


 * BTW, I agree that there is a (not very clear) WP understanding that, to the extent that an article uses *acceptable* MOS-consistent styles, one editor should not change such styles in an existing article unless doing a major expansion/re-write. But if a style is not consistent with the MOS, it should be corrected.-- Ssilvers (talk) 23:48, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Alexandra Phillips (Green politician)
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DYK for Alexandra Phillips (Brexit Party politician)
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DYK for Joseph Wood (schoolmaster)
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DYK for Thomas Thackeray
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DYK nomination of Robert Michaelis
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DYK for Robert Michaelis
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DYK nomination of Ruth Doggett
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DYK for Algernon Burnaby
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DYK for Ruth Doggett
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Article Creation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Marlborough_Mound
Hi Moonraker,

I'm not sure of the process to create an article so if you are happy to assist in doing this as per your post on the WikiProject Wiltshire I'd be really grateful. Up to this point, it is all my own work so please feel free to include that on the talk page.

Thanks very much! Johnphantom2643 (talk) 01:54, 20 October 2019 (UTC)

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