User talk:Moony22/Archives/2014/May

Rollback
Hi Moony22, I have granted your request for rollback, as I feel your editing history demonstrates decent judgment in vandalism reversion. Please do realize the right can be removed at any time, but I trust that will not be necessary. Just remember:
 * Rollback gives you access to certain scripts, including Huggle and Igloo, some of which can be very powerful, so exercise caution
 * Rollback is only for blatant vandalism
 * Having Rollback rights does not give you any special status or authority
 * Misuse of Rollback can lead to its removal by any administrator
 * Please read Help:Reverting and Rollback feature to get to know the workings of the feature
 * You can test Rollback at New admin school/Rollback
 * You may wish to display the User wikipedia/rollback userbox and/or the Rollback top icon on your user page
 * If you have any questions, please do let me know. Thanks again,  Go  Phightins  !  01:28, 30 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Hello Go Phightins!, thank you!Moony22 (talk) 09:29, 30 May 2014 (UTC)

Admirable Use of Twinkle
Hi Moony22, first of all, Congratulations for being approved as a Rollbacker on WP! I had a glance over your contributions and noticed your extensive use of Twinkle for reverting AGF and vandalism. However, I haven't been so fortunate with it. I have been reverting edits through RTRC, and even though it being a live feed, there's almost always someone who gets to the article and makes the changes before you.

As I noticed you were pretty quick with making edits through Twinkle, and contrary to what I said earlier, you seem to reach out and revert the article within minutes! With respect to my experience with Twinkle, you and some other fellow users are incredibly efficient at this.

So, I was eager to ask you, if you may consider it appropriate, how do you manage to be so quick with it? If you could please help me with something, I will be very grateful. :)

(PS: I too had requested for the rollback right, but despite having numerous mainspace and total edits, my reverting is limited to the use of RTRC, and Twinkle is only a minor part of it. Which is why I haven't recieved the right yet. However, this request is not because of that, but I have been truly impressed by the command of you and other users over Twinkle, and hoped I could learn something. Sorry to be posting such a long message, I tried to keep it as minimal as possible. Congrats once again). Abhinav —Ŧ—� 12:11, 30 May 2014 (UTC)

Plus here's a badge as an appreciation of your work here (200+ edits).


 * Thanks Abhinav! Sorry, I moved the much appreciated badge to make way for my reply. I appreciate your compliments, which are unexpected since I haven't been active on wikipedia for long!


 * This is how I use twinkle:
 * I open the usual Special:RecentChanges page
 * I middle click (open in a new tab) about 10-20 diffs and go through each one of them (using the ctrl+tab combination)
 * I use the easy to use twinkle revert buttons if I come across vandalism - twinkle will automatically detect any edit conflicts.
 * The user's talk page is opened automatically when I revert an edit. There is an easy-to-use twinkle warn button near the top of the user talk page that I can quickly use to warn them.
 * After going through all the tabs, I go back to the recent changes page and refresh, then start again with a new batch!


 * I understand what you mean when you say that edits are usually reverted before you reach them - same here. Lots of the vandalism I come across when using twinkle is already reverted before I reach it, however when opening about 15 tabs of diffs at once, usually I find at least one thing to revert in the space of two batches.


 * It may look like I'm efficient, but really it's just me opening a lot of tabs - someone is bound to miss one of them.


 * I looked at your talk page, and your requirement for rollback permissions, and I see if you make about 50 more twinkle reverts then you'll probably be accepted. 50 edits isn't too much, as long as you make sure you do one thing: If someone looks like they remotely have a good intention, however the edit they made isn't acceptable, make sure you click on the revert (good faith) button in twinkle. The main reason you weren't accepted I assume was because your edit summaries didn't show whether you assumed good faith or not - twinkle will automatically put this information in the edit summaries.


 * Also, my way of using twinkle probably isn't the best way - it's very awkward to be honest. I've never used the real time recent changes tool - I didn't actually know it existed! But I recommend you try using both the normal Special:RecentChanges page and RTRC (with twinkle of course) - and see which is more efficient. Sometimes it's more about finding edits that ClueBot and huggle users have missed than doing it before them.


 * Best of luck with your use of twinkle! My methods most likely look terrible to you, but I'm just showing you how I do it personally! Everyone has a preferred way of working! Sorry if I couldn't help though. Moony  22  16:32, 30 May 2014 (UTC)



-Sorry for a late reply. Thank you for your gracious response. And you're right! That was totally unexpected to me. Here I was trying to unearth some other-worldly ways, thinking "how the heck do these guys do it?? There has to be something I don't know of!". And here I am, presented with one of the simplest yet the most elegant explanations.

Yes, I knew how twinkle worked, but this simple thought evaded me as I'd always percieved the Recent Changes section of not much use because it changes every half a second or so. But you've taught me a whole new way of seeing it. ^_^ But my research wasn't in complete vain as I did find out a couple tools that other editors use: They too are live feeds like RTRC and work pretty much the same way. Except, I found Lupin's tool to be far off in identifying current vandalism. It may provide you with cases as old as a year, which were obviously been reverted then and there. VADA is the perfect tool for reverting purposes, if the user interface is left out of consideration. It's loaded with variety of reverting decriptions. And I think you already use it, as I saw its script when I came across your common.js page. I've tried it and it works splendidly.
 * Lupin's Anti vandal tool
 * Vada by A930913

Although, the guys at IRC say that the most active editors use about five or six such tools besides Huggle and Stiki. Igloo and Twinkle should be two of those I think.

So I'll try out these tools alongside your methods and keep contributing. ~ I see you've now switched to Huggle ;) BTW, the manner or place of displaying that badge on your namespace is totally upto you now. You may wish to show it at your User page. Abhinav —Ŧ—� 14:59, 31 May 2014 (UTC)