User talk:Mootros/Archives/2012/September

User:Jasballz
Hello, I noticed that you tried to nominate User:Jasballz for MFD, but you didn't quite do it correctly. You're supposed to tag the user page for deletion with MFD then follow the instructions from there, as described at Miscellany for deletion. Also, please sign your deletion nominations so other users know who nominated the page for deletion. Graham 87 11:29, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting me know and sorry for the trouble. Mootros (talk) 02:54, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
 * No worries. Thanks for the barnstar! Graham 87 05:17, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Notability
Hi Mootros, Why did you remove my valid entries? I am an inexperienced user, but I worked hard on them. You have re-introduced an incorrect club name and broken the links to my valid article on the Military, Naval and County Service Club. Your adjustments are incorrect. regards, Btns — Preceding unsigned comment added by Btns (talk • contribs) 11:31, 10 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi Btns, Thanks of r contacting me. The problem with these entries for this list is that there is notability. Please see here: for an overview WP:N and here for notable organisations Wikipedia is not a directory, so the common benchmark for a list entry is an own article. None of the clubs that I had removed have an own article.


 * If you think that a certain club should be in the list, you need to create an article first. Again, you must read this Notability_(organizations_and_companies) in order to ensure your article will not be delete.

Mootros (talk) 03:04, 11 September 2012 (UTC)


 * I preserved your changes and removed the problematic entries. Thanks for your effort and contribution here.

September 2012
Your recent editing history at Bettina Wulff ‎ shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing&mdash;especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring&mdash;even if you don't violate the three-revert rule&mdash;should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.

To avoid being blocked, instead of reverting please consider using the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. See BRD for how this is done. You can post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection. Yunshui 雲&zwj;水 08:08, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

Hello. There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Yunshui 雲&zwj;水 08:14, 20 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for letting me know. Mootros (talk) 08:29, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

Bettina Wulff
Hi Mootros. Looks like we're pretty close to a solution to the dispute here; when you have a moment please could you pop over to Talk:Bettina Wulff and approve/amend the proposed changes to the text? If you're happy with it (Akolyth has already expressed general approval) then we can put this one to bed. Cheers, Yunshui 雲&zwj;水 09:16, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ Mootros (talk) 10:22, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

Union Club of Boston
The Union Club of Boston is a venerable and very famous institution in Boston, a half block from the State House. The idea that it is not notable -- I don't understand. This is an OLD article. Suddenly, it's not notable? This article is four years old. You are not a Bostonian nor knowledgeable about men's clubs. Are you going to challenge the Somerset Club next? These are old WASP establishments, though they have evolvedShemp Howard, Jr. (talk) 22:17, 24 September 2012 (UTC).
 * Hi, I have no idea about Boston, that's why need to see some references that confirm notability. Do you think we should challenge the Somerset Club too? Mootros (talk) 04:06, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

request
Hi. I am basically supportive of your concerns expressed at Talk:List of traditional gentlemen's clubs in the United States‎ article, but I think you suggested you'd give 10 days before removing items, and it has been less than that by my reckoning. And, more importantly, it would be courteous if you could copy-paste any items you remove to a Talk page section for specific discussion. It's easier for you to do that as you are editing, than it is for anyone else to go back and decipher your removals, and I think that it would be more courteous and supportive of development of a good list. There are others who do believe that all the previous and current entries are notable though documentation has not yet been provided, and I tend to agree, so completely deleting the information from view anywhere seems a bit harsh. Could you please start a section allowing for specific discussion, listing your items? -- do ncr  am  10:34, 25 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for contacting me about this. I have only removed entries that have no source soever or bogus URLs. The issue here is not notability but verifiability. It's no problem to copy entries to talk for this. Mootros (talk) 03:55, 26 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for starting a section about this at the Talk page. I further edited there to itemize the items removed.  Looking at them, I personally consider several/many of the removals to be faulty.  Just because a newspaper article that was accessed in 2011 online, has a URL that is no longer functional, does not mean that the newspaper article is not a valid reference.  It is now an offline source, or maybe has a different online URL.  It seems harsh to simply remove it.  Anyhow, thanks.  If you make future removals, could you please itemize the specific items at the Talk page for further consideration, as you go?  I'll watch here for any reply.  sincerely, -- do  ncr  am  15:23, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

Oroginal research
Hi. I have created article T. G. McGann and every sentance is sourced (generally "reliable" sources) but you added a tag as "original research". Can you kindly elaborate which parts of the article are "original research", so that I will follow the guidelines in my future edits. Thank you. - Rayabhari (talk) 05:57, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi, Good work, but all the links I followed (except the book, which I could access) mention only the McGann hospital. There is no evidence about a person called T. G. McGann and that this hospital was named after him. Mootros (talk) 06:20, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok. I Got your point. Book mentions his name, as you observed. I am trying to find reliable sources for the Hospital is named after him. Thank you.-Rayabhari (talk) 10:28, 26 September 2012 (UTC)