User talk:Morongobill

April 2010
Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, your addition of one or more external links to the page Ivanpah Solar Power Facility has been reverted. Your edit here was reverted by an automated bot that attempts to remove links which are discouraged per our external links guideline from Wikipedia. The external link you added or changed is on my list of links to remove and probably shouldn't be included in Wikipedia. I removed the following link(s): http://morongobillsbackporch.blogspot.com/2010/03/visit-to-brightsource-ivanpah-solar.html, http://morongobillsbackporch.blogspot.com/2010/03/barely-made-it-back-from-brightsource.html, http://morongobillsbackporch.blogspot.com/2010/03/visit-to-brightsource-ivanpah-2-and-3.html, http://morongobillsbackporch.blogspot.com/2010/03/visit-to-brightsource-ivanpah-2-and-3_26.html, http://morongobillsbackporch.blogspot.com/2010/03/3-more-videos-devoted-to-plant-life-at.html, http://morongobillsbackporch.blogspot.com/2010/03/at-long-last-creosote-ring-and-tortoise.html, http://morongobillsbackporch.blogspot.com/2010/04/its-late-i-know-john-woolard-ceo.html. If the external link you inserted or changed was to a blog, forum, free web hosting service, or similar site, then please check the information on the external site thoroughly. Note that such sites should probably not be linked to if they contain information that is in violation of the creator's copyright (see Linking to copyrighted works), or they are not written by a recognised, reliable source. Linking to sites that you are involved with is also strongly discouraged (see conflict of interest). If you were trying to insert an external link that does comply with our policies and guidelines, then please accept my creator's apologies and feel free to undo the bot's revert. However, if the link does not comply with our policies and guidelines, but your edit included other, constructive, changes to the article, feel free to make those changes again without re-adding the link. Please read Wikipedia's external links guideline for more information, and consult my list of frequently-reverted sites. For more information about me, see my FAQ page. Thanks! --XLinkBot (talk) 16:46, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Ivanpah Solar Power Facility
While I understand you feel strongly about the issue wikipedia tries to be an encyclopedia. This means that articles need to be written with a certian tone. Wikipedia also does not allow original research and edits need to stick to a Neutral point of view. Incerdnetly images can be uploaded via special:upload (or Upload if you need more instructions) however copytright being what it is you generaly need to have taken the photos yourself.©Geni 18:19, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

That was my first attempt at editing.

Okay so you have policies against self promoting and using copyrighted material.

Your bot removed the links to my blog, morongobillsbackporch, that's fine. However I did do the hikes ,videos,etc- just want that clear.

As far as you removing the 2 pdf links, 1 to the actual BrightSource official Biological Mitigation proposal and 1 submitted by an intervenor with the California Energy Commission, Basin and Range Watch, those are actual public record documents submitted for the approval process, and are not copyrighted material and are free for public use and dissemination. How do you think the plaintiff's make their case? I am giving you the link to the actual official website for you to go to and see for yourself. Those links I need to be re-inserted, to show the public reading your article, that there are 2 sides to this story.

So far, and many of my colleagues agree with me on this, this article is only showing one side, which is BrightSource Energy's side, there are many organizations on the other side of this issue that would like to see the changes made in the environmental section to provide that balance, that this article so desperately needs.

Here is the link to the OFFICIAL state of California website, CEC where I obtained those links: http://www.energy.ca.gov/sitingcases/ivanpah/documents/index.html

Scroll down to the first document in the applicant section, entitled applicant's biological mitigation proposal, that was my link#1. Now scroll down to the section marked intervenors: go down to #13,basin and range watch photo database of desert resources, that was my link#2.

Again these are all public record, and are put in under penalty of perjury, that should be considered truthful enough even for your site.

I would, if nothing else, like those links put back in, if you would like to spell them out under the external link section, that would be fine. I am not so in love with my writing that I have to see it even in the article. But those links are truly important here and deserve reconsideration.

Thank you, Bill Mcdonald also known as morongobill Morongobill (talk) 02:15, 9 April 2010 (UTC)


 * the external links appear to be subsections of the sites linked to under the external links section or am I missing something? The dispute over the powerstation should be mentioned yes but it needs to be done in a neutral manner and idealy citing reliable sources for who holds those views (campain groups, community associations, professional associations whoever I don't who the major campain groups are in your part of the world).©Geni 01:09, 10 April 2010 (UTC)