User talk:Morriswa/Archives/2012/August

Speedy deletion nomination of File talk:Testaross Festival of speed.jpg


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Speedy deletion nomination of File talk:1979AstonMartinBulldog.jpg


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 * Morriswa, the CSD F2 criterion doesn't apply in this case, and in fact, the only one that would apply (G8) exempts these. I have notified the nominator, and in both cases, removed the CSD tag, applying G8-exempt.  Imzadi 1979  →   15:43, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Stupid tagging
This edit was stupid. Take 30 seconds, scan the article, and realize that it was a simple typo. Instead, you tagged it. 2926 vs. 1926?  Imzadi 1979  →   02:32, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

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AWB articles
I noticed that you created blank articles for Atlantic hurricane seasons, 1855-1859. Was this a mistake? → Σ σ  ς. 04:36, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, I just started using AWB, and I didn't realize that I did just that. I will be more careful in the future. Thank you for pointing this out to me. Allen (Morriswa) (talk) 04:38, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of 1857 Atlantic hurricane season


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Speedy deletion nomination of 1856 Atlantic hurricane season


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References for state routes
You have requested some sources at resource exchange board. I have access to these resources I found. Tell me which ones you want and I'll upload them. http://trb.metapress.com/content/852gr1mn1463133r/
 * Georgia

http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/40580892?uid=3739448&uid=2&uid=3737720&uid=4&sid=21100913419431

http://www.ctre.iastate.edu/PUBS/midcon2005/KrishnanBicycle.pdf (full version)

http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/30149182?uid=3739448&uid=2&uid=3737720&uid=4&sid=21100913419431
 * Florida

http://repository.lib.ncsu.edu/publications/bitstream/1840.2/2337/1/207+Impact+of+Directionality+on+Paint+Pavement+Marking+Retroreflectivity.pdf (full-version)
 * North Carolina (sorry, no South Carolina)

www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/s0001-4575(09)00322-4
 * Washington

http://onlinepubs.trb.org/onlinepubs/archive/Conferences/MTS/4C%20Ammah-Tagoe%20Johnson%20paper.pdf (full version)
 * Others

http://www.coactivity.vgtu.lt/upload/tif_zur/2008-3-vega_penne.pdf (full version)

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 * Sorry that I haven't replied sooner; I've been busy, lately. I think the Florida one might be helpful. The very last one didn't open. Allen (Morriswa) (talk) 22:23, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Florida and the last link  Let me know if you need others. And please tell me when you finished downloading them so I can delete it off my storage. OhanaUnitedTalk page 07:13, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Have you gotten a chance to download them? OhanaUnitedTalk page 04:57, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Since you never got back to me, I have deleted the files. OhanaUnitedTalk page</b> 05:16, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

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Roads opened in categories
Just a quick thought, and I don't know if you considered this already, but some roads were open to traffic under other names or designations before their last designation. As an example, M-553 (Michigan highway) was designated in 1998, but as a roadway, CR 553 existed at least by 1936. (It could be older, but I don't have an exact timeframe narrowed down yet.) That's why I've never bothered with dealing with those "Roads opened in " categories. Just food for thought...  Imzadi 1979  →   21:55, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Interstate 39 was overlaid on top of US 51 and other highways, so it wasn't "opened" in 1984, just initially designated. If the categories were "Highways designated in ", then it would be a lot easier to pin these down, but instead it's "opened", which raises other issues.  Imzadi 1979  →   22:00, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of File:Lamborghini Countach.png


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Speedy deletion nomination of File:Lamborghini Countach.jpg


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Speedy deletion nomination of File:Lamborghini-Countach.JPG


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Speedy deletion nomination of File:Lamborghini Countach silver.jpg


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Speedy deletion nomination of File:Lamborghini Countach LP500S.jpg


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Speedy deletion nomination of File:Lamborghini Countach silver 25 Years Edition vr TCE.jpg


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Speedy deletion nomination of File:Lamborghini Countach silver 25 Years Edition hl TCE.jpg


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Speedy deletion nomination of File:Lamborghini Countach US spec 5000QV.jpg


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Speedy deletion nomination of File:Lamborghini Countach by Countachinfo.de.jpg


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Speedy deletion nomination of File:Lamborghini Countach green vr TCE.jpg


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Speedy deletion nomination of File:Lamborghini countach 5000s rear.jpg


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Speedy deletion nomination of File:Lamborghini Countach(front-side).jpg


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Speedy deletion nomination of File:Lamborghini Countach(rear-side).jpg


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Speedy deletion nomination of File:Lamborghini Countach from above.jpg


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Speedy deletion nomination of File:Lamborghini countach 5000s.jpg


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Public social
Hallo, I came across this while stub-sorting and nominated it for Speedy Deletion A-7 as being a website with no assertion of notability. But I notice that you had tagged it with no less than eleven tags, including both unreferenced and refimprove, and using cleanup without a "Reason=" parameter, which it needs. Please do not assign so many tags to an 88-word stub: stick to the main points (notability, unreferenced, deadend, advert would have been plenty). And if you're using "Cleanup", please give a "reason" parameter to explain what you think needs to be done. Thanks. Pam D  14:06, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Discussion notification
There's a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject U.S. Roads that concerns you or your editing activities. You may want to curtail certain activities and participate in the discussion.  Imzadi 1979  →   20:47, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Also, please stop performing edits like and . The actual page should be categorized, not the redirect. Honestly, these gnome-like actions cause more trouble than they are worth. --Rschen7754 21:56, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
 * If I can't perform any of the above edits, what can I do here? I keep getting every door shut -- no, slammed -- in my face. I am getting extremely upset and almost fed up with this. I am trying to help make Wikipedia a better site, but I am told, "No, no, no" all the time. Is there any easy-type edits that I can do? Also, why is my HotCat not working? This is why I have been adding/removing categories the manual way, instead of using HotCat. Thanks for clearing all of this up. Allen (Morriswa) (talk) 22:01, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Take a look at User_talk:Morriswa/Archives/2012/April. We have told you over and over again what you can do; I know Imzadi1979 has written pages and pages of advice for you. You don't have to be an article writer; but obsessing over categorization is generally frowned upon. Others not involved with the roads projects have tried to help you (adoption? getting sources for you?) but you have not responded.
 * Writing an encyclopedia is hard work. If you don't want to write articles, there are other things, such as new page patrol, vandalism patrol, copyediting, generating images, voting in AFDs, making KMLs, editing images, etc. that you can take part in. But if you're looking for something "easy" to do, you're going at it with the wrong attitude.
 * So in short, we (and others) have given you advice; now you have to put in the work. --Rschen7754 22:12, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, categorization is a simple way (especially if my HotCat gadget would actually work) to edit. I didn't think I was "obsessing".
 * It's not that I don't want to write articles. I just don't really know how (not entirely true, but I don't know what to put in them, and I don't know how to do even simple research). I could try to find out how to patrol new pages, and patrol for vandalism. I think I already know how to copyedit. I don't know how to generate images, make KMLs, or edit images.
 * I apologize for sounding angry. It was because I am. I want to help, especially with the road-related articles, but I am hitting so many dead ends and closed doors, that I am getting frustrated.
 * I will take another look at the link you put here, too. Allen (Morriswa) (talk) 22:28, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Do you have a camera? If so, go take photos of roadways in your local area. M-553 (Michigan highway) was pushed through ACR earlier this year, but I wouldn't nominate it at FAC until I had some more photos of it. The other night, I had a chance, so I drove out to take some photos. Good articles in general (be it a GA, an A or an FA) need photographs or other media to help illustrate them. You could even take video clips of highways too. Don't limit yourself to just photographing GAs, as every article should have some photos.
 * Do you have a copy of Google Earth? If not, can you download it? The Maps Department has a tutorial on how to trace a roadway to make a KML. It's not that hard to do, but it can take a little time to make each one. Once you do a one or two, you'll get the hang of it. We have hundreds of upper-tier articles that need KMLs.
 * I've given you other suggestions in the past like watching the new article listing to see if there are new articles in the USRD, CRWP or HWY scopes that need to be tagged and assessed. I also will sweep through them and apply some basic formatting fixes... we have ACRs that need review comments, AfDs that pop up on WP:USRD/AA... there's plenty that can be done.  Imzadi 1979  →   22:44, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

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Just a FYI - you do need to put needs-jctint=no if the junction list is already converted, or else the article remains in the category. --Rschen7754 02:03, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

Re: Removal of templates
Please see WP:NAMB, it states that a hatnote or an template, is not necessary if the article is already disambiguated. <b style="color:#0000FF;">QuasyBoy</b> (talk)  04:44, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
 * But, is the article already disambiguated? Allen (Morriswa) (talk) 17:06, 31 August 2012 (UTC)