User talk:Morton devonshire/Archive10

Zeitgeist
Hi. I just got back from a trip; I'm sorry I wasn't available to help with the maintenance. It looks like I missed the best parts. --Maxamegalon2000 06:36, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Question. Waiting for your answer
You wrote: Here's a diff showing Bmedley Sutler editing Giovanni33's user page (NOT talk page, user page). MortonDevonshire Yo  · 01:15, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

So what? I don't understand what your point is.Giovanni33 01:21, 19 July 2007 (UTC) Please explain the problem with using talk pages to communicate.Giovanni33 04:35, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Please reread what MD wrote. Then reread what you wrote.  Hint: there is no problem with using talk pages to communicate.  --Tbeatty 05:37, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, so if there is no problem using talk pages to communicate, what else transpired so that Morton felt compelled to cite this example on a user check request? To me it seems like an everyday occurance among all editors, nothing odd or strange about it. But maybe I'm missing something?Giovanni33 07:21, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
 * It was one of my very first edits, and I put it on the wrong page by mistake. Sue me. I see what you're up to. (not you G33) Bmedley Sutler 09:31, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
 * What I don't understand is that there is nothing wrong with communicating with editors via their talk page (as in what we are doing right now). So even if you intentionally left it for me on my own talk page (I did as you that question about your papers), then there is nothing strange or questionable about that practice, hence my question to Morton, which also strangely remains unanswered.Hmmm..Giovanni33 01:43, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Bmedley Sutler edited your userpage, not your talk page. That's one of the typical mistakes that a sockpuppet makes -- to get confused about which user account he's using, and use the wrong one to edit something.  Most tellingly is an edit by the sock of the puppetmaster's userpage.    MortonDevonshire  Yo  · 22:03, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Came back unrelated for those concerned, not a big surprise to me, I had a feeling I was not someone else and pretty sure I was not Giovanni, sometimes I feel like Tom harrison, but only in spirit. --SevenOfDiamonds 12:53, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Huh; I guess the ritual was successful after all. Tom Harrison Talk 00:29, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Awesome I have been a victim of some voodoo majick. --SevenOfDiamonds 09:58, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Of course, I was addressing the similarities of two OTHER users, not you, so it's a bit suspicious that you're here responding to the allegation. Perhaps I was looking at the wrong pair.  MortonDevonshire  Yo  · 14:43, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Are you stating you are going to open a RFCU attempting to link me to Giovanni? ... hmm ... something tells me this will fail. --SevenOfDiamonds 16:49, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Can you say 'dynamic IP'?   MortonDevonshire  Yo  · 17:32, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm I'm really SixofDiamonds, now, I think even you are going to have to give me a "Working Man's Barnstar."Giovanni33 04:59, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * No no apparently Rootology and Freedom and accuracy for all are SevenOfDiamonds. This reminds me of that movie where the guy steals the paiting with all the look a likes ... what was that? Go ahead Morton report it, so I can wikilink the RFCU that already stated I was not, and get a good laugh. I just drop by to let everyone know and the paranoia jumps right, I knew someone that was really paranoid, but it was because their medication. --SevenOfDiamonds 09:58, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Seven, you're thinking of The Thomas Crown Affair. Giovanni33, you forgot to mention that you're Nescio too -- get it right!    MortonDevonshire  Yo  · 14:47, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I love that movie! Thanks for the wikilink. --SevenOfDiamonds 16:22, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't think it's possible for you to be FAAFA. You're way too civil. - Crockspot 16:40, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Tell that to the Morton's and MONGO's who insist on making accusations. Since I can sense a tinge of welcomeness (sp?) I will try not posting here anymore. --SevenOfDiamonds 16:51, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I can't judge whether or not you're a sock of somebody, but a quick look through your edit summaries pretty much rules out FAAFA. That guy could never control his smartassedness in his summaries. - 17:08, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Personal Attacks On Wikipedia
Remember "you dumb mother f-er", vigilant admins block users for personal attacks. Torturous Devastating Cudgel 19:42, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Apology
I apologize for not removing FAAFA's picture comparing me to Michael Moore. I thought that FAAFA meant to imply, I guess, that I was as big a conspiracist as Moore. Go here to see what the picture and caption used to read. I thought it was funny. Sorry for the misplaced humor. I would have removed it if he Gamaliel had explained his concerns. I promise to be more careful next time. I've done what I can to make the page more palatable.  MortonDevonshire  Yo  · 05:37, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

(sorry, I can't get the template to work right)Reason for Request: I thought that FAAFA's picture and the caption were a joke aimed at me, and didn't realize that it would be interpreted as an attack against Michael Moore. Go here to see what the picture and caption used to read. I apologize if this has caused anyone any concern, and will be more careful next time.  MortonDevonshire  Yo  · 06:19, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
 * You forgot to put the closing brackets on the unblock template. I fixed it. - Crockspot 05:54, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Or maybe you want it broken... - Crockspot 06:15, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

This is an insanely inappropriate block. --Tbeatty 06:26, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

For the record, I am partly guilty here as well since I added the caption: "Please join me at the all you can eat emporium."...back last November.--MONGO 07:05, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
 * We're all guilty a little bit. We should have realized Gamaliel was losing his temper when he started attacking other editors with namecalling.  At that point we should have just stopped posting to his talk page and I am sorry I so.  Still doesn't justify his block, though.  --Tbeatty 07:33, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Permanent Record:Overturned.  MortonDevonshire  Yo  · 19:40, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
 * You want this one. It won't go away when archived.  --Tbeatty 21:26, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

For what it is worth, I am guilty of some of this too. Man, sorry 'bout that. JungleCat   Shiny! / Oohhh!  02:38, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Blocks are supposed to be preventative, not punative. I highly doubt that the motivation for this block was prevention. Pablo  Talk  |  Contributions  07:45, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Hey Casper
Looks like we are now officially "spooks"...we even get our own section on this guy's page and a nice little spook image to go with it.--MONGO 21:31, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Cplot anyone? Seriously, I am going to bring this up at the next meeting. Our covertness is being seriously jeopardized ny these internet sleuths.  --Tbeatty 23:49, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Not to worry, one of Jeb's ice trucks is heading to Mutley's place right now. He'll be in a cage with BenBurch before dawn. I even made the crew take off their jackboots and put on moccassins. - Crockspot 03:04, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I recommend an all expense paid trip to beautiful, endearing North Korea...heck, he will get to stay in this upscale palatial hotel...what a deal!--MONGO 05:26, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
 * See if you can find the utopia of North Korea. --Tbeatty 06:01, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Numerouse Attempts to Suppress Truthfull Information (sic)
Here's one Truther's Call to Action against those who would seek to suppress "numerouse truthfull information"(sic), and the full string here where they call to identify and "kill" us.  MortonDevonshire  Yo  · 15:01, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
 * You leave messages on your own talk page? Are you that lonely? ... Seabhcan 15:13, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
 * And you reply to people talking to themselves? --Tbeatty 15:47, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
 * WoaW. Dude! that's like totally existential! ... Seabhcan 16:07, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Bring it on!
 * Ruger Super Redhawk .480 Ruger.jpg
 * Torturous Devastating Cudgel 15:11, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Here's a link to my collection. They would not be smart to come to my island with bad intent. - Crockspot 16:24, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

By the way, I'm pretty sure this means that all PrisonPlanet links should be removed per ArbCom. --Tbeatty 15:50, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay, this is the funniest thread ever. "Yet another top wiki editor is in on the game of changing the "911 Truth" article. He's changed it to make us look like a bunch of idiots! Evidence of serial anti- truth movement all over his page. Including a reference to the meaning of conspiracy theory. Then a comment about 911 truthers.  Kill Them I SAY!"   OMG.  Not the meaning of Conspiracy Theory!!!  Why, that's a conspiracy theory! Who are these people?  --Tbeatty 15:54, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
 * It's funny that when we include all of the facts in the article the Truthers think it makes them look like idiots. By the way, the guy who wrote this left me a message on my talk page here.  He asked me to e-mail him.  What do you want to bet that if I had e-mailed him he would have posted my address and as a result I would have received "numerouse" poorly-written hate e-mails?  He sent me another message here.  These people are insane.   Pablo   Talk  |  Contributions  16:00, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

User page
Your user page has been semi-protected for three days, per request due to excess vandalism. We can remove that protection sooner if you want. --Aude (talk) 12:41, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

You're famous Morty!
Hi Morty, my good friend. Thought I'd give you a heads up about this article. Seems you've been targeted! Ha ha. ... Seabhcan 13:01, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
 * so that what all the Morton Devonshire vandalism was about...that clears up a few things. anyway I find the article extremely funny, we better start plotting more to keep the truth about 9/11 underwraps :P *giggle*.--JWJW Talk Long Live E speranza! :)/Stronger Faster Better. 13:06, 28 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Nice to see the company you keep Seabhcan . Not sure who reflects on who, though.  --Tbeatty 16:40, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Comments like this "Please stop just vandalizing Morton's userpage" and "there is no free speech on wikipedia. This is an encyclopedia, not a forum or a blog. Vandalising pages will not help your cause.". I agree. Terrible. How could I say such a thing! Oh, the shame, the shame... ... Seabhcan 16:58, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I wasn't commenting on your posts but the lunatics you associate yourself with. But if you want to pick on your posts, Sane - no actually. After more than 2 years dealing with these guys, I'm fairly sure they are just moron fellow travellers is particularly illuminating.  --Tbeatty 17:06, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
 * (Reply removed by Tbeatty ... Seabhcan 19:32, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Interesting to see that Myspace has banned all mention of Prisonplanet.com from their site. I didn't know that Brother Murdoch would move so soon. Of course, all of us Jews think alike now, don't we.  MortonDevonshire  Yo  · 02:01, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

USEBACA Alert: They've now moved the attack page here, with the comment page here.  MortonDevonshire  Yo  · 17:29, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I love the first comment: Why not just create OUR own version of Wikipedia???. They could call it Conspiratorapedia. - Crockspot 17:33, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Nah..it would be better off if it was called Wackopedia--MONGO 17:36, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
 * It would be a good place to document important information about chemtrails. I support a venture like that. - Crockspot 17:38, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

USEBACA Alert 2: Looks like they got hacked last night, and are now blaming it on the Evil Agents of Wikipedia.  MortonDevonshire  Yo  · 17:59, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
 * If they check their system, they'll find out the hack job came straight from the White House. Bush is deeply concerned they will uncover the truth about our efforts to establish a New World Order on Wikipedia.--MONGO 18:21, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, my poker game finished earlier than anticipated last night, and I though it may have been the opportune time to earn my money from my Zionist paymasters. Torturous Devastating Cudgel 18:28, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
 * That reminds me...I need to check a few of my off-shore accounts. I had to spend a lot last month arming insurgents in Switzerland...that country is going DOWN! I think the world has had enough of their aggressive actions.--MONGO 18:43, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Which side do you support? The Front for French-Speaking Swiss or the French-speaking Swiss Front?  Or on the side of the multiple German insurgents? --Tbeatty 22:21, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

FYI, none other than the luminary of luminaries Alex Jones himself wrote the article. Torturous Devastating Cudgel 21:46, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
 * MAybe it's time to bring back the Alex Jones cheerleader template. --Tbeatty 22:17, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Hahahaha!--MONGO 06:36, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Radio show
Do you think you'll get a mention on his radio show? --Tbeatty 05:02, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
 * 4 hours of airtime to fill, and nothing rational to say. You can bet on it.  But I'm hoping for the big time, which would be Coast-to-Coast-AM with George Noory.    MortonDevonshire  Yo  · 05:05, 30 July 2007 (UTC)


 * By the end of the week, they might discover you are a super-natural being trying to suppress The Truth(tm) about your alien buddy George Bush and his ghostly pal Dick Cheney's plan to blow up the WTC with lasers from their Space Ship when the owner "pulled it" before they got the final shot off. Have they figured out yet that the airplanes had lasers strapped to their head?  Or that the laser platforms were really Bush's spaceships disguised as Boeing 777's?  Or that 777/747's are really spaceships because nothing that heavy could actually fly?    --Tbeatty 07:00, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

royalties
At least Jones gave you royalties for using your likeness on his page. I guess he didn't want to have to put that GFDL on all his content. Nice to see the truthers money is going to a good cause :). --Tbeatty 08:57, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

PrisonPlanet now an Official Attack Site - Barnstar
BTW, I think we can start removing those PrisonPlanet links now. --Tbeatty 14:47, 28 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Hang in there! ·:· Will Beback  ·:· 23:29, 28 July 2007 (UTC)


 * If you ever need any help with vandals feel free to come and ask me for help. Good day.--Jersey Devil 20:11, 29 July 2007 (UTC)


 * How is PrisonPlanet.com an attack site? Why are you guys so pathetic that you have to spend all your time trying to block access to free information?  gobufffs10


 * No one opposes access to free information. But there's a lot of stuff masquerading as information that might be read by impressionable children and they might believe it.   They would then have to spend valuable classroom time unlearning it.  It's hard enough teaching kids that 2+2=4.  Imagine if they had to unlearn 2+2=5 before they started.  We do it for the children. --Tbeatty 05:11, 30 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Alex Jones fans should not be calling anyone else "pathetic."  Pablo   Talk  |  Contributions  05:53, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

I love it when a plan comes together --Tbeatty 09:01, 30 July 2007 (UTC)


 * This still fails to answer how PrisonPlanet.com is an "attack" site. gobufffs10
 * We'd like to know the answer to that too. There's alot of things about that site that's difficult to fathom.  --Tbeatty 20:13, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Wiki spam filter
When I tried to revert a vandal's changes to User:Morton devonshire/conspiracy theory, a strange error message popped up. The wiki spam filter wouldn't allow me to insert links listed on the blacklist and blocked all of the revert. I needed to manually delete the myspace link before it let me. That unfortunately destroys the context a little. Just to let you know. Sciurinæ 15:05, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Dude
...because you are making it some sort of personal vendetta to vandalize Wikipedia. Just because you don't want to accept the realities of the situation behind 9/11, or because certain individuals have annoyed you in the past, is no reason to completely whitewash the information and research that people have work hard to put together. There are mountains of evidence about the events of 9/11, it's probably the biggest conspiracy topic ever, and those seeking information on the topic deserve to have free access to it. PLEASE STOP TRYING TO CENSOR 9/11 Truth. - gobuffs10
 * You vandalize my userpage and I'm the vandal? I guess if you're a TRUE BELIEVER then anything you do is justified.  Is that your rationale?    MortonDevonshire  Yo  · 03:19, 30 July 2007 (UTC)


 * That's a bunch of crap. No person involved in the 9/11 Truth Movement has worked hard at all to research the subject.  That is exactly why the movement relies heavily upon things said and written directly after the attacks that have been long since disproved.  The only thing you've worked hard to do is vandalize various user pages and insert crap into this encyclopedia.  Knock it off.   Pablo   Talk  |  Contributions  03:34, 30 July 2007 (UTC)


 * I think ManBearPig might be a bigger conspiracy than Mystery of the Urinal Deuce. Both were great episodes though.   --Tbeatty 06:34, 30 July 2007 (UTC)


 * I apologize for vandalizing your page. But you guys are seriously just pathetic. You obviously haven't even looked at most of the information you want to delete.  How do you feel good about that?  --gobuffs10
 * dude, we've seen all of the information. Too many times.  Regurgitated in various forms and guises.  From arguments about jet fuel fire temperatures to molten aluminum from thermite bombs to audio of some guy saying "pull it."  We've read the NIST report numerous times with a critical eye.  we've seen youTube videos of the most inane variety.  And there is only two conclusions: 1) terrorists flew planes into the buildings whcih caused their collapse and 2) Alex Jones, et al, seems to make a lot of money selling conspiracy to True Believers.  The Truth conferences are not free (the one here cost $500 to attend) so why would you make the claim that this information wants to be free?  Alex Jones does not give away his books or ad space on his web page.  Follow the money.   --Tbeatty 07:36, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
 * There is just no reasoning with willful ignorance or purposeful deciet. The fact that Wikipedia puts up with this kind of thuggery in a tool of information is really telling.  Keep up the good work. -gobuffs10
 * We will...ensuring we stick to facts is what we're all about.--MONGO 08:18, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Personnel issues
It looks like Seabhcan's utility as our man on the inside is at an end. We can probably let him continue to post for the sake of appearances. He may try working under another name for a while, but I don't know how long he will be able to get away with that. The next guy in the deck is an experienced poster there and here with enough credibility to get the job done. Nobody can replace Seabhcan, but this guy has his own talents, as I think you will see. You already know who it is, or you don't need to know. I hope everyone gives him a chance. Tom Harrison Talk 11:20, 30 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Sigh... Does that mean I'm fired? But I worked so hard for you guys, and your evil overlords. ... Seabhcan 11:23, 30 July 2007 (UTC)


 * I thought you were keen to move on. Just between us, you were always too rational and sane to operate there successfully in the long term. Anyway, you know we take care of our own. We'll make a place for you. Tom Harrison Talk 11:27, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I just got the new padding installed in that cell...he can move in there this week, soon as we get the waterboard installed.--MONGO 11:29, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Mongo, that's not what we agreed. I was promised a seat on the Halliburton board and remuneration in the form of the blood of innocents. ... Seabhcan 11:31, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Come on man...you must not have read the small print under Dick Cheney's signature...geez.--MONGO 11:50, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Damn it! I knew I shouldn't have done business with the Dark Lord. ... Seabhcan 12:31, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Isn't Rational and Sane the two other posters we've recrutied over there? --Tbeatty 15:15, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Unfastened Coins

 * http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=af07
 * This is good too.
 * This is pretty funny. This guy is serious though.   Pablo   Talk  |  Contributions  17:05, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Prisonplanet
Do you want it on the "en-wiki" blacklist or the "across the board" blacklist?--Isotope23 talk 20:28, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Nevermind, I just ran a check of the linking... you want a meta request. It's linked across at least 18 projects.--Isotope23 talk 20:44, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Complete idiots
I have to agree with your assessment about creepy scary dudes ...let me know if this crap flares up again.--MONGO 04:18, 8 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Heh, apparently we were discussed on PrisonplanetTV today -- see the teaser here. Let me know if you're able to view it -- I don't really want to give the guy my credit card number!    MortonDevonshire  Yo  · 06:08, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
 * If he expects me to watch his program or listen to it, he better be the one pulling out his Visa card to pay me...only I want cash, lots of cash. Just proves his entire mission is to make a buck, period.--MONGO 14:43, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

POV Violation
Hello Morton, This edit is way too POV Link Please don't post non-sense like this again. I had to make an incident for this. Most are spending money, not making any. Many also just believe what is known as 'LIHOP', which means BUSHGOV Let It Happen On Purpose. Much from the PNAC playbook. Play fair Morton. Don't sink to their depth. (the people who believe in space beams and such) Bmedley Sutler 07:10, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * You are an editor who should never try to lecture another editor for POV-pushing. Pablo   Talk  |  Contributions  07:18, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Please. Bmedley Sutler 07:23, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * You should know that these sorts of hardball tactics don't work on me. If you ask nicely, I'll listen, but reporting pretend violations is just going to get you banned eventually.    MortonDevonshire  Yo  · 07:28, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I see also that you're reporting on AN/I about your edit dispute on Journalism Scandals as well. No offense, but I think that you don't quite know how Wikipedia operates yet.  Spend some time here before you get too wild with the accusations, Mr. Lihop.    MortonDevonshire  Yo  · 07:57, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Someone made an incident on me when I did something alike with the moving of the CIA Interrogation Manuals 96-97 article to a good title. I thought that what the incident board is there for! Sorry if I'm wrong. No one agrees with your POV edits anyway. You are taking that PrisonPlanet thing all too hard. Don't sink to their depths here on Wikipedia to make a POINT. Wikipedia is not a SOAPBOX, you know. (I'm learning the WP rules!) Bmedley Sutler 21:11, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * And you're here to egg those fools on. Thanks a lot!    MortonDevonshire  Yo  · 22:15, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Not me. Your actions like your POINT edit of "entrepreneurs" are the egging on. Forget those PrisonPlaneteers. Bmedley Sutler 23:10, 12 August 2007 (UTC)