User talk:Morwen/archive7

Members of Senate and Dail
Can i suggest a name change to your articles on the composition of the Dail and Seanad? Others might want to do articles on previous compositions of the Dail and Senate so i suggest we follow the practice on articles like 108th United States Congress and give these articles the titles "Members of the 29th Dail" and "Members of the 22nd Seanad". This is the way that these bodies refer to themselves ("eireann" part is usually left out in this context). Oh, good work btw. Iota 23:26, 15 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Category:British politicians
Hmm - a category with several thousand members is clearly farcical. My suggestion is that we split it into subcategories and each politician can be a member of several. Subcategories we could use include ones related to office (this could get rid of all those boxes too), ones related to party and maybe even elected term. I'll have some thoughts and stick them on the category's talk page. Secretlondon 05:51, 18 Jun 2004 (UTC)

My proposal: Category talk:British politicians Secretlondon 06:00, 18 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Metropolitan Borough of Oldham/Oldham (borough)
Whilst Metropolitan Borough of Oldham is longer to type, it is a more official title for the place, only for convenience do some people call it Oldham. I honestly don't know the naming policy for situations like this, but I believed it was to go for the full name where possible. SimonMayer 11:18, 19 Jun 2004 (UTC)

OK, it seems to be fairly standard. I will tolerate it. SimonMayer 12:26, 19 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Proposed InfoBoxes for Districts and Unitaries
Now on WikiProject UK Subdivisions. Anything else that ought to be included? --Keith Edkins 15:14, 19 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Map size - agreed. Will adopt this size. --Keith Edkins 17:21, 21 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * I will aim for a longest axis of about 150px.

Califia
Hi M ... I'm going to replace the edits you made (except 'born') as that is the terminology he uses himself and so it would be wrong to make them all male-identified. --VampWillow 11:55, 22 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Pink bits
I've just seen your pink bits page. I'm somewhat curious as to why you don't list the parts of the United States that were ruled by the UK at one time. David Newton 21:45, 22 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Districts of England trivia
Surely this has to be in the next Wiki meet-up quiz :) Warofdreams 17:16, 23 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * Whatever makes you think that I've been reading it? ...well done. A drink on me.  I've thought about a list of islands by population before.  I'm not sure how far it'll be possible to get, but I'll start it off.  What do you think as to disambiguating islands by Beaver Island, Falkland Islands or Beaver Island (Falkland Islands)?  I prefer the former, but User:Bkonrad is insisting on the latter.  And finally, do you think I'd be any good as a bureaucrat?  If so (or of course if you think I'd be thoroughly unsuitable), please vote at Requests for adminship. Warofdreams 18:00, 23 Jun 2004 (UTC)


 * Looks good at first glance, will study it tomorrow but have to go now. Warofdreams 19:45, 23 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * Also looks good at second glance. It might also be worth mentioning the formation of the counties - some were former kingdoms, some were formed when Wessex gained contrl of Mercia, some were formed by the Normans, etc.  I can't find a Marxist analysis of the movement, but I'm sure there is one - I'll ask a Marxist geographer I know. Warofdreams 11:33, 27 Jun 2004 (UTC)

England County Expert, I come asking a favor
I've bounced around to several UK Wikipedians seeking advice, all of whom assure me they haven't a clue, and advising me to ask someone else. My most recent request at Angela's talk page redirected me to you, and I've finally gotten around to taking her advice. I will be honeymooning in England this July, and will spend a week (the majority of the trip) in Rutland by almost pure chance. I know little about Rutland and the guidebooks are largely silent. I'm just wondering if anyone can tell me a little more about Rutland -- what sights might be worth seeing, what local knowledge is good to have, etc., etc. I know you must be busy, but if you have any thoughts they would be most welcome. If you know little about Rutland, well, then my wife and I will have an adventure. :-) Thanks in advance, Jwrosenzweig 19:47, 23 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * Thanks so much! I appreciate your advice -- Stamford and Peterborough both look worth a visit.  We're depending on public transit (no money for a rental car), so that should be interesting, but we're looking forward to the challenges. Thanks again for your thoughts, Jwrosenzweig 20:04, 23 Jun 2004 (UTC)

It looks okay but I would have chosen a different example - there must have been some in the fox hunting bills or something similar. Secretlondon 19:09, 24 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * I'd still find an example on something that you don't care about. Secretlondon 19:16, 24 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * Is this better? Secretlondon 19:19, 24 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Etymologies
I thought about that, but it doesn't work for all of them. But it's worth a try. Do you want to do it or shall I? -- Graham &#9786; | Talk 18:11, 26 Jun 2004 (UTC)


 * Well I'm going to get my tea in a mo, if you haven't done anything with it by the time I come back online, I'll have a bash at it myself. -- Graham &#9786; | Talk 18:18, 26 Jun 2004 (UTC)

An idea
Er, yes. Maybe. Actually it's rather less daunting than populating Categories for Counties, which I seem to be sucking myself into. --Keith Edkins 19:40, 26 Jun 2004 (UTC)


 * Try List of English districts by ethnic diversity (subtly different spin!).

Greetings from an old friend
I don't know if you remember me, but I was once User:65.73.0.137. I am now logged in as Marcus2. The problem now is that I have been receiving rude messages from another user of whom I politely addressed my concerns, and he almost turned the discussion into a bitter argument. I have made many great contributions to the encyclopedia and was wondering how I can use "Sysops" to block vandals or rude users if need be. Thanks. --Marcus2 23:14, 27 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Hello, there! Marcus2 is referring to me. I'm the one who have posted so-called "rude" messages. However, it makes me laugh, when he says to you, that he has been "polite" to me. That is totally incorrect! Rienzo 02:25, 29 Jun 2004 (UTC)


 * You have been very much rude to others. Mike H 02:27, Jun 29, 2004 (UTC)


 * Could you exemplify? Thank you. Rienzo 06:51, 29 Jun 2004 (UTC)


 * Could you keep this off my talk page, thank-you? Morwen - Talk 07:09, 29 Jun 2004 (UTC)

That purple dress
You look just like my cousin Elizabeth in that photo with the purple dress on. You don't lead a double life as an artist-cum-mother of three do you??? -- Graham &#9786; | Talk 00:27, 29 Jun 2004 (UTC)


 * Must be the dress. Or the hair.  Or something. -- Graham  &#9786; | Talk 00:32, 29 Jun 2004 (UTC)


 * Not always, but she was last time I met up with her and the photo of that occasion (her sister's wedding) looks exactly like the photo you have on your user page. Uncanny. -- Graham  &#9786; | Talk 12:04, 29 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Re : Map of Tripura
I would like to request u to please remove the map of Tripura that you have uploaded as it is a distorted map of India. It doesn't show Jammu and Kashmir as a part of India. I would request u to use the map available on the web-site of Tripura Government (www.tripura.nic.in) instead.


 * Hello. As per standard international practive, we treat the Line of Control as the international border.  Showing all of Kashmir as part of India (or all of it as part of Pakistan) would violate our Neutral point of viote policy. Morwen - Talk 08:39, 29 Jun 2004 (UTC)

To dicuss with me more on a certain topic, please visit my talk page. Thank you. Marcus2 14:49, 29 Jun 2004 (UTC)

James Harries
Hi, I replied on my talk page. --bodnotbod 16:42, Jun 29, 2004 (UTC)

New Forest
Do you think we should merge New Forest and New Forest National Park? I know that the Park won't cover the entire forest, but it seems a little odd to have two seperate articles about it. Morwen - Talk 18:49, 29 Jun 2004 (UTC) (copied from user talk:Doops)


 * Gee, I dunno. The argument for merging is that, right now, somebody visiting New Forest National Park might not bother to follow the link to New Forest, and would therefore miss out on all the interesting info. But on the other hand, in addition to the geographical boundary issue, there's the temporal one as well: it seems unfair to have an article on the New Forest National Park (founded 2004) and not one on the ancient New Forest. So if we were to merge them, I would suggest locating the merged article at New Forest and including a section on the park. (I made a test version: see User:Doops/NewForest.) (For another example of a nat'l park article which is mainly about the place and only mentions the park as an afterthought, see Yorkshire Dales.) Doops 19:40, 29 Jun 2004 (UTC)


 * Ah, you say that, but before today, there was no article about the Yorkshire Dales! I moved it from Yorkshire Dales National Park - which was quite absurd place for it to be. I think we should have a presumption to merge, unless there are strong reasons for not. Morwen - Talk 19:42, 29 Jun 2004 (UTC) (copied from user talk:Doops))


 * OK, so we're agreed. I don't really have any strong opinion; but accepting your presumption to merge, we're agreed that the merged article belongs at New Forest not New Forest National Park. Great. Now I've never used the 'merge' function before: how is it better than just editing the two articles individually? (More specifically, if we "merge" the two pages, what happens to the New Forest National Park history?) Doops 19:46, 29 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Hi. Thanks for taking care of it. I have to say that I don't see the benefits of merging -- from what I can see, somebody trying to follow that history is bound to be utterly utterly confused. Only you and I will ever understand what happened there, surely; and we will die someday, taking our knowledge to the grave. It seems to me that keeping the New Forest National Park history at that site -- even if it is only a redirect! -- would be clearer and more transparent, if adequately commented. (But I guess I shouldn't be bothering you with this; it belongs at the village pump or somewhere. Alternatively, of course, the merged history could have some way to show that there were two separate strands which merged; right now, if you read one of the "New Forest National Park" historical versions at the New Forest history, there's nothing (unless I'm missing it) to show you what page the history actually belongs to!) Anyway, sorry to ramble on. [Thanks, by the way, for crediting me :) when you updated things!] Doops 20:09, 29 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for comment/User:Rienzo
Are you interested in endorsing this? Rick'''K 04:44, Jun 30, 2004 (UTC)

As requested
On another topic, where did you find the Labour candidate for Hodge Hill? He's not mentioned on the national Labour Party site, and the Birmingham district site is stuck in 2002. (A point not lost on the local Lib Dems, who published a list of Labour Candidates as well as their own! )

Iran Unnumbered
Hi Morwen,

Do you have a copy of Image:IranNumbered.png without the numbers? -- ChrisO 10:53, 30 Jun 2004 (UTC)

I didn't contact RESPECT. Secretlondon 14:20, 30 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Hexhamshire
Interesting... according to Northumberland County Council, "Hexhamshire was a separate County for almost 300 years until Queen Elizabeth I annexed it back to Northumberland in 1571."

According to, "Until 1571, Hexham was head of an ancient shire which was a regality, county palatinate and diocese. In this year, by Act of Parliament the shire was incorporated into the County of Northumberland and became an ecclesiastical peculiar of the Diocese of York. The term Hexhamshire is still used to refer to the area comprising the parishes of Hexham, Allendale and St John Lee."

But that doesn't quite link in with what the 1911 encyclopedia says. It seems to get the date right (1572), as in the House of Commons records for 29 May 1572 there is "Mr. Doctor Lewes and Mr. Doctor Huycke do bring from the Lords a Bill touching the annexing of Hexham and Hexhamshire to the County of Northumberland."

And according to the North East England History Pages, "By the time of the Norman Conquest Hexham and its abbey were part of the see of Durham but in the reign of Henry I it regained a degree of independence, when the town and its surrounding district known as Hexhamshire, were confiscated from the Prince Bishops of Durham and given to the Archbishops of York, to whom it belonged until 1837."

Another interesting link: Warofdreams 18:49, 30 Jun 2004 (UTC)


 * I've made a start at an article. What do you think? Warofdreams 19:23, 30 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the correction - I've fixed it. Meanwhile, looking at John Speed's late 16th century map of Gloucestershire, he indicates that it was traditionally divided into four quarters (possible called pricks, although I'm not sure).  I can't find anything more on it.  Any ideas? Warofdreams 18:38, 2 Jul 2004 (UTC)

The earliest map I can find of the counties in the area is from 1594, which shows the county boundary with Bath well inside it. Warofdreams 19:06, 2 Jul 2004 (UTC)

The Cartoon Vandal
Our friend User:66.123.252.135 decided to make a new appearance. He recreated Hollywood Jam and added mentions of it to several articles. I took the liberty of adding them to the list at User:Morwen/Cartoon. I doubled the length of the last block, so it's up to a month now.

I hate persistent troublemakers. -- Cyrius|&#9998; 05:13, 3 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Traditional counties of England
Good fix! Thanks for your efforts, &mdash; Matt 12:15, 3 Jul 2004 (UTC)

parliament
So I added a lot in the article Parliament of Serbia and Montenegro. If you find it is good now nominate it again. Avala 18:30, 4 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Welsh Bicknor
Hi Morwen, unfortunately my knowledge of the history of Welsh Bicknor is only as deep as the article i've already written! Pazzer 14:00, 5 Jul 2004

RFC reverts
Thanks for all your help in the reverts. Can't the page be protected? Mike H 20:06, Jul 5, 2004 (UTC)
 * I think something has to be done, and soon, because there will come a time when I go do exercise, or get something to eat, or sleep, and the whole thing will be reverted again. This person seems ready for the long haul. Mike H 20:10, Jul 5, 2004 (UTC)
 * Oh, I can't have a beer, love. To drink in the States you have to be 21. But your point is taken. :-D Mike H 20:13, Jul 5, 2004 (UTC)

Cities of the UK
Hi: Just a comment on the Irish section. For most of the Irish cities you list the RC cathedrals, but for Dublin you use one of the Church of Ireland ones, Christchurch. FYI (and you may already know this) Dublin is unique in having two medieval cathedrals (St Patrick's being the second). Both of these are CofI. The RC see uses St. Mary's Pro-Cathedral. 83 Marlborough Street, Dublin 1. It seems a pity to introduce this RC/CofI inconsistency into an otherwise excellent article. Bmills 13:51, 6 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Actually, I read too quickly. Only two are wrong, and I've fixed them. The situation is anything but clear-cut. Waterford, for instance, is the only city in Europe, as far as I know, with Catholic and Protestant cathedrals designed by the same person. Some Irish sees have two cathedrals of the same name (Armagh). Dublin has no full-blown RC cathedral. As an atheist Dubliner living in Limerick who once spent a lot of time in Waterford, I'm almost uniquely positioned to spot this! Bmills 14:20, 6 Jul 2004 (UTC)

The N. Ireland ones are spot on, bearing in mind that Armagh also has an RC St Pat's. The Scottish I wouldn't know. Maybe a Scottish wikipaedian could help? Bmills 14:36, 6 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Confusion about Copyright
Hi Moren, I made a contributed an article today on Canadian Playwright, Michael MacLennan. I have total permission to do that however the article was taken down because of copyright violation suspicion. How to I go about changing that? And what tags do I use to identify that I have permission to use it as well as the text? Thank you for your assistence. User:MatthewRedMatthewRed 08:03, 7 Jul 2004 (UTC)

I am very impressed. Yes I am the webmaster for Mr. MacLennan. Also, it is my first time overseeing a site so I am still learning the ropes. In what way can I show you proof? This site is completely amazing!! MatthewRed 08:20, 7 Jul 2004 (UTC)

I have put my name as designer on Mr. MacLennan's site. To show you that I have permission to use all the material on the site. Again, thanks for your help. MatthewRed 08:41, 7 Jul 2004 (UTC)

My band
After I had sent you my reply and mentioned my band I wasn't sure how appropriate that was to make such a statement. My band is named Pepperspray (I designed the site) We opened for Cher when she was here in town and we are opening for the Foo Fighters next month. We do punk/new covers covers and originals. We are very political when it comes to transgender issues of all kinds. That's why I mentioned Cher, because the crowd was not quite prepared for our brand of music and appearance. I enjoyed reading your profile. MatthewRed 09:04, 7 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Hi Morwen! Thanks for getting the copyright on the Michael MacLennan article sorted out with Matthew! I have removed the listings from Copyright problems. &mdash;Stormie 12:18, Jul 7, 2004 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured article candidates
I reinstated your edit on Featured article candidates as I think it was deleted by mistake, I hope that isn’t overstepping my bounds here... Anárion 12:48, 8 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Greetings from inept Wiki Contributor
Hey Moran, I hope this message finds you well. I am feeling very stupid due to rushing into contributing my first article. Because of that I have a long history on one article. The reason I am writing is that I uploaded an updated image of MacLennan which was way to big then I tried to uploaded it again resized and it is not the new version of the resized one. What should I do? Thanks! MatthewRed 07:53, 10 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for the tip
I tried it and it worked but it kept using the second resized image. So I just went in and wrote the syntax to resize it and it lines up well with the text. I appreciate how quick you are to respond. I hope your having a good weekend! MatthewRed 22:58, 10 Jul 2004 (UTC)

VfD repair (11 July 2004)
Hi Morwen, I see you were working on fixing VfD. I'm assuming that you've finished, so I've unprotected the page. I'll be happy to answer any questions you might have. Thanks for your help, Wile E. Heresiarch 16:42, 11 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Lancashire
New map uploaded. I assume that the part of West Lancashire south of Ormskirk, which is Bickerstaffe ward, is included in the Greater Sefton as well, as it would be detatched from Wigan. --Keith Edkins 08:04, 13 Jul 2004 (UTC)

I don't think so - that's just the technicalities of running referendums in general. There's nothing about specific cases. --Keith Edkins 09:09, 13 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Revert
Thanks for reverting my page. It was very much appreciated, and likewise I'll watch for your page if anyone does anything suspicious to you. :-) Mike H 00:55, Jul 14, 2004 (UTC)

Leicester
Hiya Morwen, I know you're a Leicester lass, could you have a word with Marcus2 on his user talk page? He's being a bit difficult over the Engelbert Humperdinck issue... -- Graham &#9786; | Talk 10:48, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)


 * Then you should know better than to let a little twonk like that get to you. And wikipedia does it to me all the time, try throwing the computer out of the window. It may not help much but it sure makes you feel better... -- Graham  &#9786; | Talk 10:50, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)


 * Well I've had it in the neck from him before because I'm the sysop that deleted his precious Elvis Presley's influence article (twice) and then suggested to other users that they may like to list Template:Elvis Presley and Elvis Presley trivia for deletion. Oh well sitting here arguing with him is a wonderful alternative to work... -- Graham  &#9786; | Talk 11:04, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)

List of English districts by population
Oops! Fixed now. --Keith Edkins 19:41, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)

PaX FA Discussion
Please evaluate PaX and withdraw your objection on the WP:FAC if it is satisfactory.

Sorry, I struck it after rewriting PaX, as I had misread the directions at the top :) My fault.  Still, I need you to verify it.

--Bluefox Phoenix Lucid 01:09, 15 Jul 2004 (UTC)

London Boroughs
Yes I suppose so. There's a variable amount of information already there, some of which will need to be worked back into the body text or the Infoboxes will take over the world! --Keith Edkins 19:58, 13 Jul 2004 (UTC)

All completed now. On a related subject, if the City of London is a Ceremonial County of itself, should it not be included in Template:England counties? --Keith Edkins 12:54, 15 Jul 2004 (UTC)

User:80.229.39.194
Is User:80.229.39.194 an alias of you, or an impostor pretending to be you? He/she claims to be you. Marcus2 21:18, 15 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Farthings etc
Thanks for the link for the Farthings of Gloucestershire; I'll read the page more thoroughly as it seems a useful source (though some other sources for some of that information would be good, too). Warofdreams 19:16, 16 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Sys op help please
User:K1 keeps deleting my contributions to several articles (currently mostly) Religious minorities in Iran and William C. Rogers III either without comment or with abusive comment only. I do not want to participate in a revert war, but rather debate matters on the talk pages. Could you please protect both pages at whatever stage you feel ok to force some debate ? If you have other suggestions to make matters a bit better, that would be great too. I have put the matter onto the RfC pages [] Thanks a lot ! Refdoc 09:17, 17 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Thanks, anyway!

WikiProject Unrecognized countries
This may appeal to you. Secretlondon 12:15, 19 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Re: Reverting your edit
Sorry about that. Brainfart. Didn't notice you had moved the material into a new paragraph &mdash; I thought you had deleted half a paragraph of content. I'm off to revert my edit. Johnleemk | Talk 14:52, 20 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Page moving
Thanks for your reaction. I can agree. I tried to move People's Party for Freedom and Democracy (Netherlands) to People's Party for Freedom and Democracy, but I couldn't succeed in that. Can you help? Gangulf 21:15, 20 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Have U seen?
Regional assembly votes postponed http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3915869.stm --Keith Edkins 13:40, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Re: Ormskirk: Er, yes, right, OK so the unparished area isn't all Ormskirk, some of it is Skelmersdale! I have amended Image:Lancashire Option2 mod.png. --Keith Edkins 09:28, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Socialist Workers Party (UK)
Thanks for that - I've tried to NPOV it. To be fair, some of the previous article did seem overly anti-SWP. Warofdreams 17:53, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * I can see the idea with your revert of County of Gloucester, but the City and County of Gloucester was a county corporate distinct from Gloucestershire. Warofdreams 18:52, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * OK, that makes sense - I'll leave well along :-) Warofdreams 19:01, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Image:LocationIslandIreland.png
I'm happy with your change in May which I have just spotted - the first attempt was just a quick one to show location without suggesting it was a single country. --Henrygb 21:02, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)

District and county maps
Hey there. Is there somewhere I can grab a tarball of all the district and county maps for England (and Wales) without having to download them all? I'd like to put the English ones on cy: now we have five counties, plus several districts up in Lloegr. Marnanel 03:16, 24 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Berwick
Well it was a nice story. If it had been valid, then I think it should have remained in the article. I'll look into it more. Mintguy (T)

Districts of Serbia
I think that this map can help you in drawing Districts of Serbia.

I found this image which I would use to draw the map if I was not such a lousy drawer. 

It shows all districts and hope it will help you. Numbers are different from current wikipedias.

Best luck --[[User:Avala|Avala| &#9733; ]] 10:48, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Halls of residence
Halls of residence, as made clear on that page, is a plural. It needs an administrator to move it to Hall of residence. Would you oblige, please? Thank you. Andy Mabbett 11:01, 29 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Liberal Party
Reversing yourself now, huh? ;-) --[[User:VampWillow|VampWillow]] 22:24, 12 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Maps
Hello, I was wondering where you got those region aps of African countries, or do you make them yourself?