User talk:Mothperson/Litterbox

This is my personal litterbox. You may litter in here, but keep in mind it will be scooped daily. Anything you want to save for your personal collection may have to be retrieved from history, if I don't feel like having gigantic lumps of coagulated litter cluttering up the box. I am not responsible for mites you may pick up while here. St. Hermione is our patron saint. Touch not her pages or beware. Besmirch here at will. (Not, again, that I won't come and scoop)

persona lepidoptera

Project of the month
'''The project of the week is an archaeological dig for sock puppets. We are looking for any evidence of language, affiliations, warfare, artifacts of worship, cultural phobias, and the like, surrounding the ancient "metro" region of New York, New Jersey, and Philadelphia, with side trips to shrines elsewhere.'''

Do you use flea medication on your cats? ::looks around apprehensively:: Anyway, from my experience on VfD, cultural phobias of sockpuppets seem to include deletionists. Favorite method of waging war seems to be sending anons into the fray, armed with an inexhaustible supply of "Keep" votes. A good place to dig is WP:VFD. That must be their temple, or something. Anyway, have a good time digging and don't get that shovel dirty. Hermione1980 00:05, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

UPDATE Sockpuppets galore found in archaeological dig in Votes for deletion/Log/2005 June 16. Check out vote on Mathew Kenneally. It's a different community from the ones you've profiled below. Man, you'd think they'd grow up some time &mdash; or get annihilated. Cheers, Hermione1980 00:38, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Here beath (beith?) the records of the sock-puppet crime-family headed by the cappo di tutti cappi  209 , whose spawn have multiplied in the hot weather experienced recently by the NYC-N.J.-Atlantic Seaboard area.

A Sock-Puppet Family History
The family: hereinafter referred to as 209, Spot, Coney, Toast, Shur, Melvis, Hoho and Toby


 * Not your average sock puppets, as few articles are created and then defended against deletion on VfD. An exception would be Edd Kalehoff.  209 creates a POV article about Roger Moss reeking with bile, uses his gang to augment and revert it when interrupted, and then proposes his own article for deletion when he realizes his jig is up, stalemated by Boothy et al.  The full gang starts to emerge and vote prolifically on a certain range of subjects (see below), mostly to delete people "they" have "issues" with, and – likely personal history.  They also engage in attempts to get rid of images and articles they view as rivals.

BREAKING NEWS

Introducing:

(Latest | Earliest) View (previous 50) (next 50) (20 | 50 | 100 | 250 | 500).
 * User:203.98.57.97 (Talk)


 * 18:48, 3 July 2005 (hist) (diff) Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Tobias Fornier, Antique
 * 18:46, 3 July 2005 (hist) (diff) Tobias Fornier, Antique (top)
 * 18:46, 3 July 2005 (hist) (diff) Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Log/2005 July 3
 * 18:44, 3 July 2005 (hist) (diff) Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Storkyrkan
 * 18:42, 3 July 2005 (hist) (diff) Storkyrkan
 * 18:42, 3 July 2005 (hist) (diff) Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Log/2005 July 3
 * 18:41, 3 July 2005 (hist) (diff) Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Defect detector
 * 18:39, 3 July 2005 (hist) (diff) Defect detector
 * 18:34, 3 July 2005 (hist) (diff) Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Log/2005 July 3
 * 18:33, 3 July 2005 (hist) (diff) Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Doug Kammerer (→PageName)
 * 18:32, 3 July 2005 (hist) (diff) Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Doug Kammerer
 * 18:31, 3 July 2005 (hist) (diff) Doug Kammerer (VFD) (top)
 * 18:29, 3 July 2005 (hist) (diff) Auckland (top)
 * 18:26, 3 July 2005 (hist) (diff) Rail transport in New South Wales (top)

and also featuring

From Wikipedia Philly is so fucking awesome!
 * User:PhillyDude!

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PhillyDude%21"

User contributions From Wikipedia For PhillyDude! (Talk) (Latest | Earliest) View (previous 50) (next 50) (20 | 50 | 100 | 250 | 500).


 * 21:18, 3 July 2005 (hist) (diff) WYBE (TV)
 * 21:15, 3 July 2005 (hist) (diff) WHYY-TV
 * 21:13, 3 July 2005 (hist) (diff) WGTW-TV
 * 21:11, 3 July 2005 (hist) (diff) WPHL-TV
 * 21:06, 3 July 2005 (hist) (diff) User:PhillyDude! (top)
 * 21:05, 3 July 2005 (hist) (diff) Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Doug Kammerer (→Doug *Kammerer)
 * 21:03, 3 July 2005 (hist) (diff) Philadelphia Phillies
 * 21:00, 3 July 2005 (hist) (diff) Phillie Phanatic
 * 20:58, 3 July 2005 (hist) (diff) KYW-TV
 * 20:56, 3 July 2005 (hist) (diff) WPVI-TV
 * 20:54, 3 July 2005 (hist) (diff) WCAU-TV
 * 20:54, 3 July 2005 (hist) (diff) WCAU-TV anchors
 * 20:38, 3 July 2005 (hist) (diff) Channel 10 (top)
 * 20:38, 3 July 2005 (hist) (diff) m Channel 10 (Israel) (top)
 * 20:37, 3 July 2005 (hist) (diff) Channel 10 (Israel)
 * 19:50, 1 July 2005 (hist) (diff) The Vet

Family stats and habits

 * Nom de plume/Date of Birth/No. of edits/#VfD


 * 203.98.57.97
 * PhillyDude!/1 Jul 05


 * Statistics as of 15 June 2005
 * Nom de plume/Date of Birth/No. of edits/#VfD


 * 209.137.173.69/30 Dec 04/
 * Spotteddogsdotorg/22 May 05 (?)/    997 edits/
 * Coneycyclone/12 Jun 05/    153 edits
 * Hohokus/09 Jun 05/    45 edits
 * ShureMicGuy/11 Jun 05/    16 edits
 * Toasthaven/24 May 05/    62 edits
 * Melvis/31 May 05	/    27 edits
 * Tobyvonmeistersinger/23 May 05/    10 edits


 * The areas known to be frequented by the family:
 * VfD
 * Edd Kalehoff  (and User: Ryan Prior re: E.K. article)
 * Roger Moss
 * NYC./N.J t.v.-news related articles
 * License plates – U.S. and Canada
 * Waffle irons
 * Trains – NYC metro area
 * NYC subways
 * Rail topics in general
 * Philadelphia
 * New Jersey
 * Queens (Coney Island, Junior’s, Jackie Gleason Bus Stop)
 * Boeing planes, aviation


 * Aspects of note:


 * 209 is obviously the original capo di tutti capi, but has now switched IPs as of July 05
 * Coney writes teeny tiny stubs prolifically, after 209 stops editing ca. June 1
 * All make teeny tiny edits when trying to build edit count up - recently, putting brackets around Pacific Ocean (I think for Auckland was one major contribution of the new number - User:203.98.57.97
 * Personal knowledge of tv people in NYC area and obscure facts about station histories
 * Only one comes out for subjects beyond scope of interest, maybe two for medium interest. But a maximum of six is possible, 3-4-5 is  common, for territorial stuff
 * Stuff entity has never heard of only calls for one vote (Coney on the 12th apparently)
 * No one has an intelligent discussion with anyone about anything – everything is simplistic, black and white
 * Doesn’t read the articles being voted on if he doesn’t care about subjects – note vote timing of Coney on 12th  - and it can’t be because he edits the whole page at once and then submits, as his previous votes have close but different times
 * Latches onto others’ views to bulk up his resume – see vote on Samuel Green and timing with other votes
 * Very unnecessarily uncharitable remarks on the part of all about subjects for deletion. Derisory to the point where it seems personal knowledge of the subjects must be a given. "Disgruntled ex-employee" comes to mind, particularly with regard to NYC-area television station subjects.
 * Silence of all for nearly 48 hours recently! (end of June)
 * Silence again for 2 days on VfD!!! Family gone to the mattresses? (end of June)
 * Coney and Spot take over around this time, after everyone else gets blocked

Language tics:
 * its for it’s
 * a historical preservationist
 * fondness for "!"
 * somewhat lacking in the ability to speak in whole sentences conveying an intelligent thought
 * actually, none of them can spell worth a lick

Special achievements in June 2005
A classic article: (this, by Coney) Frank Field (Meteorologist) Dr. Frank Field is a well know televison personality and meteorologist who has been on TV for decades. His son is Storm Field who is also a meteorologist for WWOR-TV. I think he is a medical doctor, since I saw him do medical reports on TV.

An even more classic article - the now-deleted Anchor bimbo, in which - Spot? Coney? Scone? Spoctopus wrote, gave examples of real people to illustrate and had a photograph of Tracy Davidson, with her name across it, to further illustrate it.  This page is an archive of the proposed deletion of the article below. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page, if it exists; or after the end of this archived section. The result of the debate was Delete Zzyzx11 (Talk) 1 July 2005 06:39 (UTC)

Anchor Bimbo
Neologism. Gets 22 googles. Also, do we want a list in Wikipedia of 'people occasionally called bimbos'? Radiant_ &gt;|&lt; 15:46, Jun 24, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete - one wouldn't think so, would one?  Especially when the author adds names and photographs of real people as examples! --Mothperson 15:54, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Neologism. --Durin 16:12, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Ted Baxter Delete. Andrew Lenahan - St ar bli nd 17:01, Jun 24, 2005 (UTC)
 * Neolobimbo Neologism. - Mgm|(talk) 17:43, Jun 24, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep this is a term used by media observers to reflect a trend in broadcast journalism that is somewhat disturbing. I also have some plans to expand it. -- Spotteddogsdotorg 00:23, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment OK I have nominated it for a speedy delete. Happy now? If that doesn't work my vote changes to Delete- Spotteddogsdotorg 1 July 2005 00:57 (UTC)
 * Delete neologism. JamesBurns 03:18, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Strong Delete The original article shows the heavy biases from a user whose actions led an admin to quit. And it is neologism. ErikNY 13:14, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete per nominator. -- Jonel | Speak 15:21, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment with reference to Spotty's plans, what's the speed dial # for the Wiki lawyers?  --Mothperson 15:26, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment - just let this get deleted. It's got far more support for deletion than, say, Vince DeMentri.  I'm confident any recreations of this will be treated just as harshly as recreations of DeMentri's article.  That is, they'll go *poof* immediately. -- Jonel | Speak 00:08, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Neologism! Toasthaven 28 June 2005 16:10 (UTC)
 * Comment - yeah, that's convincing. --Mothperson 28 June 2005 17:20 (UTC)
 * Strong Delete. Gibberish, nonsense, joke, POV, sexist, not encyclopedic, bad faith article creation in the first place by somebody out to WP:POINT. Kaibabsquirrel 29 June 2005 02:22 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be placed on a related article talk page, if one exists; in a deletion review, if it does not; or below this section.
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be placed on a related article talk page, if one exists; in a deletion review, if it does not; or below this section.

An attempt at a revert/disambiguation/WP:POINT war on Roger Moss, yet again.

Special achievements for July 2005
Doug Kammerer

not notable, information at WCAU-TV anchors - MERGE 203.98.57.97 3 July 2005 18:32 (UTC)

Also, the edits I made to the archived discussion were to stop this from showing twice on the July 3rd VfD page Contents menu. Please don't hurt me. Thanks. --Alex12 3 3 July 2005 18:48 (UTC)
 * Merge and Redirect I've only heard of him because I live here. Not notable enough.--Alex12 3 3 July 2005 18:48 (UTC)
 * Speedy keep. This just survived a VFD a couple of weeks ago and is not eligible for another VFD at this time. Sanction User:203.98.57.97 for bad-faith VFD nominations intended to WP:POINT. Kaibabsquirrel 3 July 2005 19:23 (UTC)
 * I agree with sanctioning user 203.98.57.97 for above reasons. However, my vote regarding the article stands. --Alex12 3 3 July 2005 20:55 (UTC)
 * Dude? Why is this guy in two places, I like him on the list of WCAU peeps. Can we put him there? I am thinking that you would say something like Speedy Merge to do it? Will that do it? PhillyDude! 3 July 2005 21:05 (UTC)


 * User's 11th edit, account created 1 July. Edit history looks like yet another of the multiple sockpuppet accounts playing their little disruption game with the East Coast TV station articles. Kaibabsquirrel 3 July 2005 21:55 (UTC)
 * Oh, no - they're BAAaack. Hi guys. --Mothperson 3 July 2005 23:53 (UTC)
 * PhillyDude! and 203.98.57.97 both :( The Spotctopus doesn't quit does it? Kaibabsquirrel 4 July 2005 00:19 (UTC)


 * Strong, Speedy Keep for integrity of VfD process; renomination too soon. Xoloz 4 July 2005 05:30 (UTC)

Storkyrkan not notable church 203.98.57.97 3 July 2005 18:43 (UTC)


 * Strong keep 16,400 Google hits? Oldest church in Stockholm? Sounds notable enough to me. Article just needs expansion. --Alex12 3 3 July 2005 18:51 (UTC)
 * Strong keep Please refrain from refering obviously notable places and quality articles for deletion.--File Éireann 3 July 2005 19:18 (UTC)
 * Strong keep as per Alex12 3 - Oldest church in Stockholm makes it perfectly notable! UkPaolo
 * Speedy keep. Sanction User:203.98.57.97 for bad-faith VFD nominations intended to WP:POINT. Kaibabsquirrel 3 July 2005 19:21 (UTC)
 * I agree with sanctioning user 203.98.57.97 for above reasons. --Alex12 3 3 July 2005 20:51 (UTC)
 * I removed the VfD tag, as adding it was nothing but a clear case of vandalism. Please close this vote now before more people waste their time here. Tupsharru 3 July 2005 19:51 (UTC)
 * comment it might be considered bad form to remove the VfD before letting the votes finish... I appreciate that it doesn't deserve deletion (my vote above reflects that), but in that case it will clearly get a Keep vote overall. There's no evidence the VfD was added maliciously as it stands... why not just let the vote run its course? UkPaolo 3 July 2005 20:08 (UTC)
 * It is one thing to defend the existence of an article on something obviously notable in the case of a nomination by an established user who just hadn't understood the significance of the topic (possibly because the article was badly written, which is often the case). But this nomination is vandalism by an anonymous user. This particular vandal apparently discovered that if he adds some garbage to a page, he will be reverted in a couple of minutes, but by adding a VfD tag and going though the trouble of setting up a vote, he can keep dozens of wikipedians occupied for days voting and debating his little prank. I see no reason why we should play according to those rules. Tupsharru 3 July 2005 20:28 (UTC)
 * fair point. UkPaolo 3 July 2005 21:26 (UTC)


 * Another possibility is that this is some established user who makes these silly nominations anonymously exactly to make the point that non-registered users shouldn't be allowed to make nominations on VfD. Personally, I don't need to be convinced of that. Tupsharru 4 July 2005 06:02 (UTC)
 * This page is an archive of the proposed deletion of the article below. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page, if it exists; or after the end of this archived section. The result of the debate was being bold and speedy keeping --SPUI (talk) 4 July 2005 03:29 (UTC)

Defect detector move to Wiktionary 203.98.57.97 3 July 2005 18:41 (UTC)


 * Strong keep This article is part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Trains. slambo July 3, 2005 18:49 (UTC)
 * Strong keep, as it is more than just a dictionary definition. --Alex12 3 3 July 2005 18:54 (UTC)
 * Keep, valid topic, not a dicdef. JYolkowski // talk 3 July 2005 19:05 (UTC)
 * Strong keep, more than just a dictdef, perfectly valid article. UkPaolo 3 July 2005 19:20 (UTC)
 * Strong keep Should certainly not have been nominated for deletion - please do not refer obviously notable articles--File Éireann 3 July 2005 20:33 (UTC)
 * Speedy keep. This is an important, notable topic in railroading. Sanction User:203.98.57.97 for bad-faith VFD nominations intended to WP:POINT. Kaibabsquirrel 3 July 2005 19:21 (UTC)
 * I agree with sanctioning user 203.98.57.97 for above reasons. --Alex12 3 3 July 2005 20:52 (UTC)
 * Keep more than a dictionary def. should be kept. Jtkiefer July 4, 2005 03:13 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be placed on a related article talk page, if one exists; in an undeletion request, if it does not; or below this section.

Tobias Fornier, Antique not notable place in not notable country 203.98.57.97 3 July 2005 18:48 (UTC)

Speedy keep. All countries are notable, and all major cities within those countries are notable. Sanction User:203.98.57.97 per Kaibabsquirrel. --Idont Havaname 4 July 2005 01:06 (UTC)
 * Keep, as it is notable. Furthermore, few of your additions to the VfD system seem to be actual candidates, nor does calling a well-established nation "non-notable" increase my confidence in your discretion. Might I suggest you become more familar with Wikipedia before participating in an advanced activity such as VfD? --Alex12 3 3 July 2005 19:13 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep The Phillippines is as important as most other countries.--File Éireann 3 July 2005 19:15 (UTC)
 * Speedy keep. Sanction User:203.98.57.97 for bad-faith VFD nominations intended to WP:POINT. Kaibabsquirrel 3 July 2005 19:19 (UTC)
 * I agree with sanctioning user 203.98.57.97 for above reasons. --Alex12 3 3 July 2005 20:52 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep - what has the Philippines done to merit being branded a notable country?! Perfectly notable place, in a perfectly notable country (to be honest - can any country really be branded as non notable?). Anyhow, it's a respectable article. UkPaolo 3 July 2005 19:23 (UTC)
 * Speedy keep. IMO, this borders on vandalism. Perhaps someone should have a talk with 203.98.57.97. — Bcat (talk | email) 3 July 2005 23:30 (UTC)
 * Strong, Speedy Keep Also agree with others regarding the sanctioning of nominator. Xoloz 4 July 2005 05:33 (UTC)
 * Speedy keep. And the Philippines is not notable? *cries* TheCoffee 4 July 2005 05:36 (UTC)

Votes of the Recent Past
Voting together against each other: (my only sample)

re: PC game music 6/12
 * Delete its pointless and POV filled. Melvis 16:29, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * User's 20th edit, 13 of which are VFD votes. Kaibabsquirrel 22:35, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Keepit seems useful.ConeyCyclone 17:15, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Account created 17:05, 12 Jun 2005 and almost all edits are to VfD. Kaibabsquirrel 20:05, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

INTERESTING COMPARISONS OF VOTES ON THE SAME SUBJECTS (a partial collection from 12 June)

Re:Last Days of Foxhound Delete not notable. --Melvis 16:28, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC) User's 19th edit, 12 of which are VFD votes. Kaibabsquirrel 22:28, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC) Delete it seems like this guy wants to make his comic better known. ConeyCyclone 17:17, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC) Account was created 12 minutes before this vote. User's 11th edit. Kaibabsquirrel 22:28, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Re: Espen Moe
 * Delete its a vanity post! Melvis 16:28, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * User's 18th edit, 11 of which are VFD votes. Kaibabsquirrel 22:25, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete who the hell is this guy? ConeyCyclone 17:20, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

John Ogden (poor John Ogden - moth note)
 * Googling John Ogden comes up with two web pages from his TV station mentioning this Ogden. Not notable! Hohokus 23:09, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Not notable. Toasthaven 16:31, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Non-notable person of zero intrest! Melvis 17:01, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Just because someone is on TV in one city on one station doesn't mean that they are "widely recognised" and "well known" even in their own city, let alone their own country. They have done no national TV work, so they are still not notable, which is why I still say Delete! Spotteddogsdotorg 14:55, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete who the hell is this guy? Some local traffic dude in a small town. Big deal. ConeyCyclone 17:20, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Doug Kammerer Account created today, all edits are to VfD. RickK 22:57, Jun 12, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Person of very little importance, minor person on minor local TV. Spotteddogsdotorg 18:43, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Do we need every damn airhead weatherman from podunk's bio here? No! Hohokus 23:21, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * User's 24th edit, suspected sockpuppet. Kaibabsquirrel 21:58, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Local TV weather guy in small market - not notable! Melvis 17:11, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * User's 10th edit, suspected sockpuppet. Kaibabsquirrel 21:58, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Who? Not notable! Next! ShureMicGuy 19:08, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete I would understand if he was like Janice Huff and did weather on the Today show, but this guy is on some local station and isn;t of any notewortyness. ConeyCyclone 17:22, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete: Marginal advertising, little content, no reasoning for why this person is signifiant. All local weathermen do the weather from a viewer's yard, sooner or later. Geogre 03:07, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, passes WP:BIO. Kappa 03:45, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep -- nightly weekday appearances on television make one notable. - Longhair | Talk 03:48, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. ℬastique▼talk 05:19, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, does not pass WP:BIO. Neither a "widely recognized entertainment personality" nor a "well-known entertainment figure". --Smack (talk) 05:37, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete non notable. JamesBurns 05:52, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Appears on local television only, and only on one channel. How many other weathermen for this channel have articles? I notice there's a Glenn "Hurricane" Schwartz one as well. Average Earthman 07:17, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep SchmuckyTheCat 16:10, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete I would understand if he was like Janice Huff and did weather on the Today show, but this guy is on some local station and isn;t of any notewortyness. ConeyCyclone 17:22, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Account created less than an hour before this vote was cast, suspected sockpuppet, user's 15th edit. Kaibabsquirrel 21:58, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * Keep Jinkleberries 19:56, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Note: Junkleberries is a new account today and voted 'keep' on 37 articles within a 7-minute period. This user also received a vandalism warning today. Tobycat 20:53, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * Delete, nn. RickK 22:24, Jun 12, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, agree with Kappa Falphin 00:35, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. A local TV weatherman, and one who's been there for less than two years? NN. --Calton | Talk 04:12, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete nn vanity. No one cares if he eats hot dogs or not. Grue  14:50, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep The Philadelphia broadcast area is large enough that "notable there" is "notable enough". --Unfocused 16:26, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, yet another frivolous VFD no thanks to User:Spotteddogsdotorg and multiple sockpuppet votes. Kaibabsquirrel 21:58, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Non-notable. Regardless of how large Philadelphia is, a local TV weather hack on the station for 2 years is not notable. Local TV personalities change jobs frequently and are rarely notable. Quale 21:00, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * This page is now preserved as an archive of the debate and, like some other VfD subpages, is no longer 'live'. Subsequent comments on the issue, the deletion, or the decision-making process should be placed on the relevant 'live' pages. Please do not edit this page.

Vince de Mentri
 * Delete Person of very little importance Spotteddogsdotorg 18:36, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Do we need every damn airhead anchor from podunk's bio here? No! Hohokus 23:25, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Local TV guy in small market - not notable! Melvis 17:29, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Never seen him on TV, never heard of him. Not important as only a small amount of people can actually watch him on TV and I know I am not one of him since I don't even get his channel! ConeyCyclone 17:26, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Person of very little importance Spotteddogsdotorg 18:40, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Tracy Davidson
 * Delete Do we need every damn airhead anchor from podunk's bio here? No! Hohokus 23:19, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Account created 9 Jun 2005 and mostly used for VfD votes. Kaibabsquirrel 00:15, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Local TV gal in small market - not notable! Melvis 17:30, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Account created 31 May 2005 and mostly used for VfD votes. Kaibabsquirrel 00:15, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete WHO? Not notable! Next! ShureMicGuy 19:07, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Account created today, all edits are to VfD. RickK 23:00, Jun 12, 2005 (UTC)
 * Just because someone is on TV in one city on one station doesn't mean that they are "widely recognised" and "well known" even in their own city, let alone their own country. They have done no national TV work, so they are still not notable, which is why I still say Delete! Spotteddogsdotorg 14:53, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Asa Aarons wannabe in a small city big deal. ConeyCyclone 17:24, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep This is from the same user who writes about many New York City-based tv news personalities and executives, but derides those from "lesser" stations in major markets. And by looking at the nominator's reasoning, I suppose everyone knows who Diane Doctor is. ErikNY 18:58, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * COMMENT What the above user calls "New York City-based tv news personalities and executives" are nationally known people who meet many of the WP:BIO criteria or are seen nationally on programs. If we use ErikNY's reasoning we should just ignore people like Peter Jennings and Roone Arledge would fall into that category. The broadcasts of the various New York televison stations are seen through much of the United States, the Carribean and Latin America, unlike Ms. Davidson, who is only seen in a very small area by comparison. Also, in the case of say Jim Vance or Sue Simmons who are pioneering African-American news anchors, so they would warrant entries, but Ms. Davidson a thirty something airhead blonde cookie cutter anchorette. She doesn't need one until she becomes more notable or moves on to a national broadcast. Spotteddogsdotorg 23:04, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete doesn't meet WP:BIO guidelines. You may argue that she is a "Well known entertainment figure", but being known in one city doesn't seem to do that. Toasthaven 22:47, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC

History of U.S. and Canadian License plates
 * Delete Is basically covered in US and Canadian license plates Spotteddogsdotorg 02:44, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * This seems as if this user created this entry to provide cover for the Historical Mississippi License Plates which seems to be created to show off his collectionMississippi licence plates. So my Delete vote still stands, now adding vanity into the mix. If you want to show your plates off, other than illustrating a point, get your own website. Spotteddogsdotorg 14:29, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete or Merge into main article. Melvis 16:26, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete There is a page like this already. ConeyCyclone 17:28, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete and merge. Hohokus 18:34, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete there is a page about US and Canadian license plates and it belongs there. Toasthaven 22:01, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * (these last four votes are interrupted only by kaibab comments and one other vote)

two in a row re racism in the U.S. (check – they helped write?)
 * Keep like it says, clean up! ConeyCyclone 17:30, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep and clean. Hohokus 18:35, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Jon Wood  two in a row:
 * Keep like it says, clean up! ConeyCyclone 17:30, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep and clean. Hohokus 18:35, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

American inventors two in a row:
 * Delete A redundant list, that is listing renudnantly. Spotteddogsdotorg 14:17, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete there is something like that elsewheres. ConeyCyclone 17:34, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Wacko Jacko
 * Keep This is a commonly used name for whatever the hell Michael Jackson is. Spotteddogsdotorg 14:18, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep What the hell else are you gonna call the sick freak. ConeyCyclone 17:35, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Ryan metric time
 * Delete Vanity nonsense. Spotteddogsdotorg 14:20, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete obvious vanity! Melvis 16:42, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete If I come up with my own time system I am not gonna post it up here. ConeyCyclone 17:37, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Favorite dismissal phrases in VfD
(all from 6/12 unless otherwise noted)

Shur: Who? Not notable! Next! (Moss)

Melvis:
 * not notable! A Google search does not list the Roger Moss in question, but lists… Who the hell *is this guy in the article? (Moss)
 * not notable. (6/12)
 * it’s a vanity post! (unusual appearance of "it's" and must be a misspelling)
 * Non-notable person of zero intrest! (Ogden) (8th edit per kaibab)

Coney:
 * Not noteable. (Moss)
 * patent nonsense (6/12)
 * never heard of it
 * Others said what I think
 * Its vanity (sic)
 * Delete Sounds like something I had for lunch. And its like an attack.
 * Delete Really pathetic attempt at promoting. ConeyCyclone 17:39, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete It should be Deletina-ed. ConeyCyclone 17:40, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep she is a historical person. ConeyCyclone 17:27, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC) (Camilla Hall)
 * An attempt to confuse nutjobs with a Bible place.
 * Delete Fake and unfunny. ConeyCyclone 17:42, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Vanity plagirism? ConeyCyclone 17:41, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Not noteable. ConeyCyclone 17:42, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Not noteable. ConeyCyclone 17:43, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Not noteable. ConeyCyclone 17:45, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Its brown! ConeyCyclone 17:44, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep and expand. Handy tool to have! ConeyCyclone 17:45, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Never heard of. ConeyCyclone 17:45, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Not noteable. ConeyCyclone 17:46, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC) (JonathanWilliamWood)
 * Delete Not noteable. ConeyCyclone 17:46, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC) (Upsilon Alpha Beta)
 * Delete Not noteable. ConeyCyclone 17:46, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC) (Tyzo)
 * Delete Not noteable. ConeyCyclone 17:47, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC) (UYCUA)
 * Keep Noteable. ConeyCyclone 17:47, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC) (G.114)
 * Delete Fake! ConeyCyclone 17:48, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC) (Samuel Green)
 * Delete Not noteable. ConeyCyclone 17:49, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC) (Michael Delfino)

ConeyCyclone's account was created earlier today, just a few hours ago, and has mostly been used to vote on VfD's. Toasthaven's account was created on 24 May 2005, his/her first ever edit was a VfD, and a favorite topic of Toasthaven to edit is TV stations on the East Coast. Hohokus' account was created on 9 Jun 2005, a majority of his/her edits have been votes on VfD's, and a favorite topic of Toasthaven to edit when not voting on VfD's is TV stations on the East Coast. Melvis' account was created 31 May 2005, almost all of his/her edits have been votes on VfD's, and a favorite topic when not voting on VfD's is TV stations on the East Coast. (Kaibabsquirrel to RickK 12 June 2005)

After an unprecedented family silence for a good two days, only broken by a brief bit by Spot, or was it Coney? (They are so hard to tell apart) Toast broke cover to re-engage over Roger Moss, apparently not recognizing a battle lost.

19 June 2005: Spot re-emerges after another two days of family silence, to make 1 (one) vote on the day's VfD's, and furthermore, actually appears to have read the article he votes on.